Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
Dan, some of that flooring comes with a backing material that probably will do the job, but check with the manufacturer of any flooring for underlayment requirements. Some require you to have one in order to meet the warranty requirements. I ended up putting plastic sheeting down in my living room, which is a wood floor. I could understand on concrete, but hey I do what I'm told, in the event something goes wrong in the future. :) On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: Go for it. Jesus said he could tear down the temple and rebuild it in 3 days. You should be able to lay a floor in the same time... - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
There is a hardwood flooring business about 6 blocks from me and I stopped in to see them a few months ago about my project. My house is 115 years old and the original floors are cheap pine which are very much damaged over the years. They told me to put a one and a half inch screw in each plank if my existing floor squeaks, which it does. I had to pre drill a hole in the planks to allow the screws to pass through them, or else the screw would not pull the plank against the joists The next thing he told me was to place roofing felt on the floor before laying the new hardwood floor. This is to help prevent the new floor from squeaking against the old floor. Hope this information is useful to someone on this list. Regards, Tom -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:09 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. Dan, some of that flooring comes with a backing material that probably will do the job, but check with the manufacturer of any flooring for underlayment requirements. Some require you to have one in order to meet the warranty requirements. I ended up putting plastic sheeting down in my living room, which is a wood floor. I could understand on concrete, but hey I do what I'm told, in the event something goes wrong in the future. :) On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: Go for it. Jesus said he could tear down the temple and rebuild it in 3 days. You should be able to lay a floor in the same time... - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
Dan Admitted: I have to get someone in here with sight who can tell me how bad the floor really is... And Victor Wonders: Isn't Teresa sighted? Or is she too busy reading up on being a new mom? Grins. Victor
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
Jewel, I have Teresa sleeping with her feet up and head down, and her legs crossed at all times. I've asked her to see if she can't hold off until February or March. My black eye is mostly gone now. After a closer inspection of the floor, I do not believe it is in such bad shape that it needs to be covered with a new floor. It could definitely use a refinishing though. That will have to wait. Tom, I did the exact same thing when I put a new floor down in my living room. For some reason, the floors on the first floor of the house were just rough pine planks that were very cupped, split and, well, rough. I screwed them down in many places, stapled down some quarter inch luan, put rosin paper, or builders felt down, then put the new hardwood over that. It is solid and no squeaks. On the second floor, there are, what once were, pretty nice hardwood floors. The hardwood is laid down directly on the joists, and is tung and groove. Dale, I don't think the 3/4 inch hardwood would be an issue in height difference between the room and the hallway. There is carpeting with padding in the hall, so that would take up some of the 3/4 inch difference. also, when I did this on the first floor, I put a beveled molding to transition from the hardwood to the carpet in the dining room. The difference is hardly noticeable. Thanks for everyone's suggestions and comments, but for now, I think I will just leave well enough alone, and get the closet finished this weekend and the room painted. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
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Victor, I was keeping Teresa out of the nursery until I could remove as much of the lead disaster as possible. Last night I completely washed down the floor, walls, and ceiling. I think one more rince with clean water and the room can be re-opened for use. It's been sealed for several days now. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
[BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
Dan, My old boss used the formula. First take your time estimate then double it and add 20%. I think his formula is more often correct than not. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu To: Blind Handyman List BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4592 (20091110) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
hey dan, think about this after stripping all that floor molding now you want to put down new hard wood. well guess what your either going to have to pull off the old stuff and use it over or put in new. i bet you will hate that. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
My money is on you Dan to get it in 2.5 days. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu To: Blind Handyman List BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor.
I am pretty aware of everything taking longer than expected. I think I made a post about that recently. However, I would be going into this project with some experience, having done my living room floor already. The living room floor took a long time because I had to lay down plywood first, and cut it out around the fireplace, the entrance way, and the radiator. Then the first row of boards was very hard to line up since I had to span the opening between the living room and dining room. But, once that was done, I laid the actual floor in one weekend. There was work to be done after the floor was down, like cut the nice angled area for the entrance way, and rip out the radiator and then finish where the radiator was. On the nursery floor, I don't think I would need to lay down the plywood, there are nothing but four straight walls with no cut-outs. Once I get the first two rows in, which will take the better part of a day, because, to do it right, I need to pre-drill some holes right at the edge of the first row, then pre-drill angled holes just above the tung of the second row, then hand nail those two rows in. But once that is done, I can really fly through the rest. The floor moldings are very wide, so in the living room we didn't do anything, just laid the new floor down and the moldings look perfectly normal. Just slapped down some quarter round and it looks great. I really need a sighted person to take a closer look at the nursery floor first and see just how good or bad it really is. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
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Dan! With the amount of work you still want to complete to make the baby's palace perfect, you had better tell Teresa to keep off the Harley or the roller coaster for the next few days, or preferebly, weeks! Jewel - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu To: Blind Handyman List BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4593 (20091110) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Go for it. Jesus said he could tear down the temple and rebuild it in 3 days. You should be able to lay a floor in the same time... - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Dan, Do you really want to add that thickness to the floor? There is the closet too. You might refinish, the finish can be poor but probably the only real damage will be where nails held down the tackless and you can patch that with one of those filler pencils of match colour. There are other considerations too, things like matching other floors in the house. It is a small room, you could probably refinish it with a belt sander and a little care. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Nursery floor. I donned filthy clothes and respirator yet again last night, and entered the toxic waist land, soon to be my daughters nursery. I sliced up the carpeting, rolled it, tied it, and stuffed it into contractor bags, along with the padding. I had to crawl around on the floor for quite a while trying to remove the hundreds of staples they had used to tack down the padding. Also, I had to remove that lovely tack strip around the edges of the room. Man is that stuff nasty to handle. Kind of like trying to pick up a porcupine. I then tried shop vacking up the room, but after a long time, I realized it just wasn't worth it. The exhaust from the vac was blowing around the dust and although I was sucking up some, I was putting more in the air. So, I sealed up the room, closing windows and closing the door. Hopefully, the dust will settle out in the quiet air, and I will go in tonight and wet mop floor, walls, and ceiling. I think that will work better to remove all the dirt and dust. The hard wood floor is in pretty bad shape, and I am now considering laying a new hard wood floor over the old. It is pretty flat, not like the floor I found in my living room a couple of years ago. The room is quite rectangular, with virtually no cut-outs. It is rather small, a bit over 8 by 11. I don't think I will require an underlayment. I am trying to convince myself that I can do the whole thing, start to finish, in three days. Now I just have to convince Teresa of the same. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
