Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Also, tools take our attention away from the woman and they get jell is. At 09:35 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:09 -0400you write: What is it with wives and their hate of tools? It's like this, why buy tools when you can buy jewerly or shoes? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Having been in the tool rental business ny advice is to own whenever possible. Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question From: Bob Kennedy inthes...@att.net Date: 03/17/2010 21:21 Good job Dan the tool pimp! - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Terry, Since I am not trying to cut down on my tool purchases, and am an unabashed tool hoar, I emphatically say that you should log on right now, and pick yourself up a sweet little roofing nailer. And you might as well get some new table saw blades while you're at it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I do not think it is the tools, I believe that it is the strong male attatute that she cannot deal with. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question What is it with wives and their hate of tools? - Original Message - From: John Sherrer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hi Terry For me it is better to have the tools and nails on hand so that I do not have to go some where to get them. My wife hates woodworking stores and hard ware stores, so we do not go often. when I go, I get every thing I need or think I might need. I do not want to spend your money, but I would tuy the nailer and the nails. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Aloha Terry, Well, you could buy one and rent it out to others for less than the rental place and then you'd have it if and when you need it. It may be one of those things like when you throw something away you need it the next day, but if you don't have it you'll need to keep renting. Betsy At 10:46 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote: Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Well, according to an old contractor that I used a few years ago, it is time to purchase. He was having a yard sale of all of the tools that he does not need. He told me his new philosophy. He no longer purchases a tool that looks neat or nice to have. He now waits until he could have used it 3 times then the next time he could use it, that is when he purchases it. I should have followed his advice, I have several items that were only tested, the newest being the palm nailer. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich te...@klarich.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4952 (20100317) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
I just bought a DeWalt coil roofing nailer. I haven't got to use it yet, but it looks very well designed and I like the safety features. Since you've used one of these before, could you tell me how many coil nails you drive into a single standard 3-tab shingle? I'm just curious if more coil nails are required than standard roofing nails. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
I forgot to mention that I paid about $115 for my DeWalt nailer. Bought it re-ferbbed from Tool King. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
its always better to have your own tool then you will have it for things you didn't know you needed it for. also you know how its treated jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
If you use the roofing nailer quite a bit, get one. If not, do you have a friend who would let you borrow one? If not, then you don't have much choice except to rent. Shane From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Klarich Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:46 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:06:00 -1000you write: Aloha Terry, Well, you could buy one and rent it out to others for less than the rental place and then you'd have it if and when you need it. It may be one of those things like when you throw something away you need it the next day, but if you don't have it you'll need to keep renting. Betsy Yah, And, maybe if I buy one, I won't need it therefore I won't have to go up on the roof. I'm liking that more and more the longer I think about it. :) Terry
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Sounds like good advice to me. I am definately the world's worst tool junky. I have really been trying to rreform myself; hence, this query. On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:33:36 -0400you write: Well, according to an old contractor that I used a few years ago, it is time to purchase. He was having a yard sale of all of the tools that he does not need. He told me his new philosophy. He no longer purchases a tool that looks neat or nice to have. He now waits until he could have used it 3 times then the next time he could use it, that is when he purchases it. I should have followed his advice, I have several items that were only tested, the newest being the palm nailer.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Rick: Thanks for the info. Knowing what you did, I could have purchased 2 of them. I have no problem with referbbed tools. A shingle gets 4 nails; one at each end and 1 above the place where the tabsmeet. All nails go above the strip of tar. They tell me most of the manufactures put marks where the nails go. (Not that that helps me). Keep in mind a roofing nailer is not like other nailers. it fires when the trigger is pulled and the tip is touched to the shingle. It will keep firing until the gun is lifted or you let off the trigger. If you are not careful, you can have 2 or 3 nails in the same spot. Just a quick light tap is all you need. Terry On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:36:46 -0400you write: I just bought a DeWalt coil roofing nailer. I haven't got to use it yet, but it looks very well designed and I like the safety fe atures. Since you've used one of these before, could you tell me how many coil nails you drive into a single standard 3-tab shing le? I'm just curious if more coil nails are required than standard roofing nails.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Hi Terry For me it is better to have the tools and nails on hand so that I do not have to go some where to get them. My wife hates woodworking stores and hard ware stores, so we do not go often. when I go, I get every thing I need or think I might need. I do not want to spend your money, but I would tuy the nailer and the nails. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
I agree. I really dislike looking for something or trying to get a tool to work. And, there are very few people I will lind my tools too. Router bits don't get loned out to anyone, no how. Terry On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:43:03 -0500you write: its always better to have your own tool then you will have it for things you didn't know you needed it for. also you know how its treated jim
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John: Now, I'm wondering if my Wife knows Your Wife. Maybe, they are sisters or something. I'm right there with you brother. I try and convence her to go right after I've taken her out to dinner. :) One time, I was working on the kitchen sink. We had to go to Lowes 3 times in one day. And, that's all I'll say about that. Terry On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:55:13 -0400you write: Hi Terry For me it is better to have the tools and nails on hand so that I do not have to go some where to get them. My wife hates woodworking stores and hard ware stores, so we do not go often. when I go, I get every thing I need or think I migh t need. I do not want to spend your money, but I would tuy the nailer and the nails. John
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Consider a reconditioned one. You can pick one up for about half the price of new and they come with a decent warranty. You can Google them or there are a couple places you can look. http://toolking.comcarries many reconditioned as well as good prices on new tools. That's where I got my Bostitch RN46 from. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Terry, Since I am not trying to cut down on my tool purchases, and am an unabashed tool hoar, I emphatically say that you should log on right now, and pick yourself up a sweet little roofing nailer. And you might as well get some new table saw blades while you're at it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
What is it with wives and their hate of tools? - Original Message - From: John Sherrer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hi Terry For me it is better to have the tools and nails on hand so that I do not have to go some where to get them. My wife hates woodworking stores and hard ware stores, so we do not go often. when I go, I get every thing I need or think I might need. I do not want to spend your money, but I would tuy the nailer and the nails. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
They work the same way as if you were driving with a hammer. Just ten times faster. 3 to 4 is the limit. - Original Message - From: Rick Hume To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question I just bought a DeWalt coil roofing nailer. I haven't got to use it yet, but it looks very well designed and I like the safety features. Since you've used one of these before, could you tell me how many coil nails you drive into a single standard 3-tab shingle? I'm just curious if more coil nails are required than standard roofing nails. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Good job Dan the tool pimp! - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Terry, Since I am not trying to cut down on my tool purchases, and am an unabashed tool hoar, I emphatically say that you should log on right now, and pick yourself up a sweet little roofing nailer. And you might as well get some new table saw blades while you're at it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Find a friend who has had even less money o rent one, who is in need of the use of one; and get them to fund the purchase with their borrow and or part ownership; maybe a brother or son? Anything past that balance point and you are loosing. On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Terry Klarich wrote: Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry
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Exactly what Rick said. I think that is going to be the plan. Terry On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:30:26 -0400you write: Consider a reconditioned one. You can pick one up for about half the price of new and they come with a decent warranty. You can Google them or there are a couple places you can look. http://toolking.comcarries many reconditioned as well as good prices on new tools. That's where I got my Bostitch RN46 from.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:09 -0400you write: What is it with wives and their hate of tools? It's like this, why buy tools when you can buy jewerly or shoes?
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question
Terry, My philosophy on this has always been that if I have to rent an item and I have to pay a cab to go get it and again to take it back to the rental s hop then I'll probably be money ahead buying the item from someplace that will deliver it to me somehow. This rule has served me well because just everything I've bought vis-a-vis this tactic has been needed again at least once. Not that I've always needed to redo whatever it was I did in the first place, but these items usually find themselves being quite useful for other projects. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents. - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799) - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rent or own, that is the question Hey all: Over the past 4 years or so, I've needed a roofing nailer 3 times. If I add up all the money I've spent on renting one, I have purchased one for the tool rental company out right. In my mind, I'm thinking I won't use one enough to purchase one; but, evidently, this isn't the case. I've wasted about $250 so far. On the other hand, I don't think I'll need one for the forseeable future. Unless, I have to replace another roof plumming vent as I did last weekend. Having a nailer sure makes the job go much quicker and easier than a hammer and box of roofing nails. I'm half way tempted to get one the next time I have to do any roof work. What do you all think? Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
