[BlindHandyMan] roof damage
Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Jennifer, Although you do not want to call a professional and get your husband all worked up, not doing so may lead to additional problems etc down the road. Roof problems are nothing to put off as they do not go away on their own. If it were me I would contact a couple of different roofers and compare what they say. Most will do an inspection and estimate for no charge, at least they do in the area I live. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Jennifer, I concur with Al in that unless you are pretty adept with roofing issues *DON'T* do it. Crawling around in the attic should also be left to those who have experience. Having a pro come and fix the problem is a whole lot less than hospital bills and resultant recovery from falling off the roof or through the ceiling. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I am afraid some one is going to have to physically get on the roof to check it out. It could be a# of things. The cap may have blown off the vent fan, the flashing may have sprung a leak, or the shingles might have been damaged or deteriorated. If it is the cap, install a cap vent. Flashing might need roof cement around it. Or a shingle might just need replaced. RJ - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I would suspect that if the damage is that large that there is more damage you can't see and it's problem that the roof is weak in spots. Crawling around on a roof that has no damage is a risky business to start with and when you toss in possible water damage it could turn deadly and very fast. It's not just about fixing the hole but about inspecting for other damage that possibly could be worse. But, as has already been said, this sort of thing won't go away on it's own. Here's what I recommend. Contact 5 or 6 roofing contractors in your area. Tell them that your taking bids on roof repairs and briefly describe the problem. Don't assume. People invite contractors to stick it to them by describing things they assume to be true. If you tell the contractor you are afraid you might need a new roof, guess what he'll tell you. Yes mam, we examined your roof and your quite correct. Your roof is shot and needs to be replaced. That's at least a 10,000 dollar job. Instead, only describe what you know as fact. Tell them up front that your only taking bids at this time. If they say something like we don't give bids, you can reply, then you don't get the job. If their honest, they'll come out and give you a free bid. If they want to charge you for it, run real fast. I'm the president of our home owners association and am responsible for over 55 homes. It's not a large association as such things go but we get home owners seeking information on what they can do to avoid being taken. Out of 5 or 6 bids, you should wind up with 4. There is always 1 or 2 who offer more excuses why they can't come out when they said they would. Their probably doing you a favor anyway. Out of the 4 or so you get,you'll be amazed at the range of prices. As an example, on a 10 thousand roofing job the prices could be as low as 6 and as high as 20 thousand. Write everything down and never assume you will be able to remember it because you won't. Get the bid in writing or you don't have anything. If it's in writing, you've got the paper to prove the bidder said what ever. Never pay in full up front. You have no bargaining chips left. If you are still holding the money, you've got say-so. It is proper to put some money down up front but only a small amount usually far less then half; like maybe a fourth. /And finally, run like hell when they start promising you the sun and the moon. Unless it's in writing, you don't have it. All the best of luck to you with it. Oh and be sure to inquire about warrantees on their work and how long etc. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge cyselfri...@comcast.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Jennifer, I concur with Al in that unless you are pretty adept with roofing issues *DON'T* do it. Crawling around in the attic should also be left to those who have experience. Having a pro come and fix the problem is a whole lot less than hospital bills and resultant recovery from falling off the roof or through the ceiling. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out
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Alan, excellent advice. In my area all contractors require 50% down. -- From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:10 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage I would suspect that if the damage is that large that there is more damage you can't see and it's problem that the roof is weak in spots. Crawling around on a roof that has no damage is a risky business to start with and when you toss in possible water damage it could turn deadly and very fast. It's not just about fixing the hole but about inspecting for other damage that possibly could be worse. But, as has already been said, this sort of thing won't go away on it's own. Here's what I recommend. Contact 5 or 6 roofing contractors in your area. Tell them that your taking bids on roof repairs and briefly describe the problem. Don't assume. People invite contractors to stick it to them by describing things they assume to be true. If you tell the contractor you are afraid you might need a new roof, guess what he'll tell you. Yes mam, we examined your roof and your quite correct. Your roof is shot and needs to be replaced. That's at least a 10,000 dollar job. Instead, only describe what you know as fact. Tell them up front that your only taking bids at this time. If they say something like we don't give bids, you can reply, then you don't get the job. If their honest, they'll come out and give you a free bid. If they want to charge you for it, run real fast. I'm the president of our home owners association and am responsible for over 55 homes. It's not a large association as such things go but we get home owners seeking information on what they can do to avoid being taken. Out of 5 or 6 bids, you should wind up with 4. There is always 1 or 2 who offer more excuses why they can't come out when they said they would. Their probably doing you a favor anyway. Out of the 4 or so you get,you'll be amazed at the range of prices. As an example, on a 10 thousand roofing job the prices could be as low as 6 and as high as 20 thousand. Write everything down and never assume you will be able to remember it because you won't. Get the bid in writing or you don't have anything. If it's in writing, you've got the paper to prove the bidder said what ever. Never pay in full up front. You have no bargaining chips left. If you are still holding the money, you've got say-so. It is proper to put some money down up front but only a small amount usually far less then half; like maybe a fourth. /And finally, run like hell when they start promising you the sun and the moon. Unless it's in writing, you don't have it. All the best of luck to you with it. Oh and be sure to inquire about warrantees on their work and how long etc. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge cyselfri...@comcast.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Jennifer, I concur with Al in that unless you are pretty adept with roofing issues *DON'T* do it. Crawling around in the attic should also be left to those who have experience. Having a pro come and fix the problem is a whole lot less than hospital bills and resultant recovery from falling off the roof or through the ceiling. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan
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Just because a contractor says he wants half down only means that's what he wants but my mother told me you don't always get your own way in life. Remember, he may be the contractor but your the guy paying so that makes you the boss. I'd offer him %25 tops.If your holding on to 3/4 of his money you've got a greater bargaining position. When he starts telling you why he can't, you can tell him oh yes you can. grin I've learned when your the one holding their money, the more of it you hold, the harder they listen. Business has BSed people into thinking it's their way or no way until you remind them who's doing the paying. Of course their going to try to get as much up front. That's cash in the bank and then they don't have to work as hard and the excuses start. Hey sir, something came up and this was suppose to happen and that didn't so we have to what ever. It's called the run around. If you've got 3/4 of their money, their going to be real careful with ticking the boss off. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Alan, excellent advice. In my area all contractors require 50% down. -- From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:10 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage I would suspect that if the damage is that large that there is more damage you can't see and it's problem that the roof is weak in spots. Crawling around on a roof that has no damage is a risky business to start with and when you toss in possible water damage it could turn deadly and very fast. It's not just about fixing the hole but about inspecting for other damage that possibly could be worse. But, as has already been said, this sort of thing won't go away on it's own. Here's what I recommend. Contact 5 or 6 roofing contractors in your area. Tell them that your taking bids on roof repairs and briefly describe the problem. Don't assume. People invite contractors to stick it to them by describing things they assume to be true. If you tell the contractor you are afraid you might need a new roof, guess what he'll tell you. Yes mam, we examined your roof and your quite correct. Your roof is shot and needs to be replaced. That's at least a 10,000 dollar job. Instead, only describe what you know as fact. Tell them up front that your only taking bids at this time. If they say something like we don't give bids, you can reply, then you don't get the job. If their honest, they'll come out and give you a free bid. If they want to charge you for it, run real fast. I'm the president of our home owners association and am responsible for over 55 homes. It's not a large association as such things go but we get home owners seeking information on what they can do to avoid being taken. Out of 5 or 6 bids, you should wind up with 4. There is always 1 or 2 who offer more excuses why they can't come out when they said they would. Their probably doing you a favor anyway. Out of the 4 or so you get,you'll be amazed at the range of prices. As an example, on a 10 thousand roofing job the prices could be as low as 6 and as high as 20 thousand. Write everything down and never assume you will be able to remember it because you won't. Get the bid in writing or you don't have anything. If it's in writing, you've got the paper to prove the bidder said what ever. Never pay in full up front. You have no bargaining chips left. If you are still holding the money, you've got say-so. It is proper to put some money down up front but only a small amount usually far less then half; like maybe a fourth. /And finally, run like hell when they start promising you the sun and the moon. Unless it's in writing, you don't have it. All the best of luck to you with it. Oh and be sure to inquire about warrantees on their work and how long etc. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge cyselfri...@comcast.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Jennifer, I concur with Al in that unless you are pretty
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Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net Date: 08/05/2010 10:09 Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Jennifer how about having your homeowners insurance carrier do an inspection for you. You might be able to file a claim and have the work done professionally done and maybe paid for as well.
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Interesting lenny. I've never paid anything up front. I don't really understand the logic either since a contractor can always get a mechanics lien if there is a problem getting paid. Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net Date: 08/05/2010 12:17 Alan, excellent advice. In my area all contractors require 50% down. -- From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:10 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage I would suspect that if the damage is that large that there is more damage you can't see and it's problem that the roof is weak in spots. Crawling around on a roof that has no damage is a risky business to start with and when you toss in possible water damage it could turn deadly and very fast. It's not just about fixing the hole but about inspecting for other damage that possibly could be worse. But, as has already been said, this sort of thing won't go away on it's own. Here's what I recommend. Contact 5 or 6 roofing contractors in your area. Tell them that your taking bids on roof repairs and briefly describe the problem. Don't assume. People invite contractors to stick it to them by describing things they assume to be true. If you tell the contractor you are afraid you might need a new roof, guess what he'll tell you. Yes mam, we examined your roof and your quite correct. Your roof is shot and needs to be replaced. That's at least a 10,000 dollar job. Instead, only describe what you know as fact. Tell them up front that your only taking bids at this time. If they say something like we don't give bids, you can reply, then you don't get the job. If their honest, they'll come out and give you a free bid. If they want to charge you for it, run real fast. I'm the president of our home owners association and am responsible for over 55 homes. It's not a large association as such things go but we get home owners seeking information on what they can do to avoid being taken. Out of 5 or 6 bids, you should wind up with 4. There is always 1 or 2 who offer more excuses why they can't come out when they said they would. Their probably doing you a favor anyway. Out of the 4 or so you get,you'll be amazed at the range of prices. As an example, on a 10 thousand roofing job the prices could be as low as 6 and as high as 20 thousand. Write everything down and never assume you will be able to remember it because you won't. Get the bid in writing or you don't have anything. If it's in writing, you've got the paper to prove the bidder said what ever. Never pay in full up front. You have no bargaining chips left. If you are still holding the money, you've got say-so. It is proper to put some money down up front but only a small amount usually far less then half; like maybe a fourth. /And finally, run like hell when they start promising you the sun and the moon. Unless it's in writing, you don't have it. All the best of luck to you with it. Oh and be sure to inquire about warrantees on their work and how long etc. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge cyselfri...@comcast.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Jennifer, I concur with Al in that unless you are pretty adept with roofing issues *DON'T* do it. Crawling around in the attic should also be left to those who have experience. Having a pro come and fix the problem is a whole lot less than hospital bills and resultant recovery from falling off the roof or through the ceiling. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her
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OK, let's try this again Jennifer how about having your homeowners insurance carrier do an inspection for you. You might be able to file a claim and have the work done professionally done and maybe paid for as well. Original Message: - From: Bill Stephan wstep...@everestkc.net Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:19:15 -0500 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net Date: 08/05/2010 10:09 Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Jennifer how about having your homeowners insurance carrier do an inspection for you. You might be able to file a claim and have the work done professionally done and maybe paid for as well. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web
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Jenniffer, I don't buy the vent as the source unless the vent is damaged. They should have a hat over the vent that allows falling water to drain away from the hole. If the water caused damage to the sheet rock, it pretty much had to be quite a lot of water or over quite a period. If the vent is damaged, or if, as is likely there is real roof damage, a pro is the onlyanswer since you've no experience working out there. Trying to fix roof damage from the inside will likely just make the water go make a mes somewhere else. AndAlan is quite right, sooner is better. Good luck Tom Fowle On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:15:25AM -0400, Alan Terrie Robbins wrote: Jennifer, Although you do not want to call a professional and get your husband all worked up, not doing so may lead to additional problems etc down the road. Roof problems are nothing to put off as they do not go away on their own. If it were me I would contact a couple of different roofers and compare what they say. Most will do an inspection and estimate for no charge, at least they do in the area I live. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I haven't read any other replys yet. So this is my opinion. The daylight that is being seen may be from a vent, but water coming in through or around a vent is not normal. The only reason for a pan inthe attic is to catch water from a leak that needs to be fixed. Letting a roof leak go only worsens the damage. The water causes the sheathing to rot and then the rafters, not to even mention the damage to the ceiling sheetrock, insulation and possibly other interior walls and floors. In a nut shell get the roof repaired. It may be as simple as new flashing or tar around a couple of vents. The vents may have been installed improperly after the roof or worse case half the roof may have blowm off sometime. The only way to know is to get a sighted person that knows a little about roofing up on the roof. The sooner the better. Ron - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Howdy Jennifer, As I am responding later in the thread, it appears that you have received some very good information. I did want to add one thought. If you feel that your roof and shingles should be in good repair and that your roof is not so old as to require replacing, you might want to use the services of a good handyman. I have a local gentleman that I have used in the past for smaller roof repairs. The advantage, I find, is since he does smaller repairs, he is only too pleased to repair the damage without reference to replacing the roof. Works for me. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] roof damage Good Morning, I need some input on the condition of my roof and what my next step should be. There is a hole in the ceiling of an upstairs bedroom that is from a water leak. I have been up on a short ladder and checked this part out for myself. It is about the size of a salad plate. I know I have to stop the water from coming in, but I am afraid to get up on the second story roof to investigate. Both afraid of falling, and of doing more damage to the roof as I know nothing about roofing. My mother looks up into this hole and goes on about being able to see the sky. Her answer to the problem is that I must get some man to fix it, so she is not very helpful as a source for more sighted details. My husband has a theory about this leak that I am not certain about. I may have mentioned that home repair is not his forte? Anyway, he insists that the light my mother is seeing is coming through the vent. He is referring to the round vent things that have a fan in them for ventilation. He claims that the water is coming in through the vent and is normal. He tells me that the other fan has a plastic pan under it to catch the water and that this is why it does not have a similar leek. The water that leeks through seems like a lot of water to be expected to just evaporate out of a collection pan. My husband is suggesting that we just need to put in some more insulation and repair the sheet rock. I am willing to get up in the attic and try to access this area to get more information. I am just not certain that any repairs from that side will really do any good, or of any safety precautions I need to take. Such as perhaps turning off the electricity at the breaker box to avoid any possible live wires? Your input will be greatly appreciated. It will cause a fight with my husband if I go ahead and call in a roofer after he has said we do not need one. I am willing to fight with him, but I prefer not to whenever possible. I would love for him to be right about this. Jennifer\ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
