RE: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
thanks. Cleaning the duct system for her forced air heat has come to mind too. I was over there Thursday and after an hour it started to annoy my eyes. I got home and it didn't make sense. We talked and she said it seemed worse when the heater was on. The filter was coated with black soot. I think the second filter will fill up fast. But she says she can smell her litle pop up Glade deoderizers now. On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Cy Selfridge wrote: > I can attest to the Kilz. We had a massive fire in my shop which, > unfortunately, was under the new addition to the house. Also unfortunately > the door leading down to the shop/laundry room was left open so the smoke > went throughout the entire house. We sure did use a lot of Kilz. (LOL) > Cy, the ancient Okie... > > _ > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:06 AM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire > > > > Thank you. > I'm familiar with this product, it does seem to cover everything I've ever > need it to cover. > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Bob Kennedy wrote: > >> It sounds like she has 2 steps to fixing the plaster. Since it is older, > something like an awl or scribe needs to be drug the length of both cracks, > forming a sort of V shape. After making the 2 grooves, they need to be > watered down with something like a spray bottle. Just direct the spray into > the grooves. The reason for the water is to keep the plaster from leaching > the moisture out of the joint compound and making it dry too quickly. Which > would just let a new crack start... >> >> After the joint compound has dried and been sanded smooth, paint the area > with some Kilz 2 primer. I can only speak for the Kilz brand but I can tell > you from having a fire in my house before that you can actually paint over > the smoke blackened area with this stuff and it covers the black and the > smell. BTW I used the water based version, they have both water or oil > bases. It's sure a lot quicker going this route than washing and waiting and > washing again and having to paint over everything in the end anyway. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: HYPERLINK "mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: HYPERLINK > "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM >> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire >> >> >> Hi, >> I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned >> down today. >> My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. >> She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's >> trying to air it out. >> Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell >> out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" >> The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. >> There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a >> corner. >> She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the >> paper hanger promise to mud that up. >> Maybe they didn't? >> So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? >> Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double >> hairline" as she calls it. >> but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the >> plaster, which will smell. >> Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new >> plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? >> Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? >> What will do it for her? >> If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for >> that worst place 2 feet from her bed? >> Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. >> Best to you all. >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 11:24 AM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 11:24 AM > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
RE: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
I can attest to the Kilz. We had a massive fire in my shop which, unfortunately, was under the new addition to the house. Also unfortunately the door leading down to the shop/laundry room was left open so the smoke went throughout the entire house. We sure did use a lot of Kilz. (LOL) Cy, the ancient Okie... _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:06 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire Thank you. I'm familiar with this product, it does seem to cover everything I've ever need it to cover. On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Bob Kennedy wrote: > It sounds like she has 2 steps to fixing the plaster. Since it is older, something like an awl or scribe needs to be drug the length of both cracks, forming a sort of V shape. After making the 2 grooves, they need to be watered down with something like a spray bottle. Just direct the spray into the grooves. The reason for the water is to keep the plaster from leaching the moisture out of the joint compound and making it dry too quickly. Which would just let a new crack start... > > After the joint compound has dried and been sanded smooth, paint the area with some Kilz 2 primer. I can only speak for the Kilz brand but I can tell you from having a fire in my house before that you can actually paint over the smoke blackened area with this stuff and it covers the black and the smell. BTW I used the water based version, they have both water or oil bases. It's sure a lot quicker going this route than washing and waiting and washing again and having to paint over everything in the end anyway. > > > - Original Message - > From: HYPERLINK "mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: HYPERLINK "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire > > > Hi, > I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned > down today. > My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. > She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's > trying to air it out. > Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell > out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" > The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. > There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a > corner. > She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the > paper hanger promise to mud that up. > Maybe they didn't? > So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? > Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double > hairline" as she calls it. > but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the > plaster, which will smell. > Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new > plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? > Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? > What will do it for her? > If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for > that worst place 2 feet from her bed? > Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. > Best to you all. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 11:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 11:24 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
Thank you. I'm familiar with this product, it does seem to cover everything I've ever need it to cover. On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Bob Kennedy wrote: > It sounds like she has 2 steps to fixing the plaster. Since it is older, > something like an awl or scribe needs to be drug the length of both cracks, > forming a sort of V shape. After making the 2 grooves, they need to be > watered down with something like a spray bottle. Just direct the spray into > the grooves. The reason for the water is to keep the plaster from leaching > the moisture out of the joint compound and making it dry too quickly. Which > would just let a new crack start... > > After the joint compound has dried and been sanded smooth, paint the area > with some Kilz 2 primer. I can only speak for the Kilz brand but I can tell > you from having a fire in my house before that you can actually paint over > the smoke blackened area with this stuff and it covers the black and the > smell. BTW I used the water based version, they have both water or oil > bases. It's sure a lot quicker going this route than washing and waiting and > washing again and having to paint over everything in the end anyway. > > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire > > > Hi, > I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned > down today. > My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. > She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's > trying to air it out. > Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell > out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" > The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. > There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a > corner. > She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the > paper hanger promise to mud that up. > Maybe they didn't? > So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? > Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double > hairline" as she calls it. > but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the > plaster, which will smell. > Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new > plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? > Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? > What will do it for her? > If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for > that worst place 2 feet from her bed? > Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. > Best to you all. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
RE: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
I was the victim of an arson fire back in the early '90s, and never did get the smoke stink out of my possessions. You could go along for a couple weeks, then sweat, and the clothes you were wearing would give off a horrible stink. So, this is definitely a situation where you want to involve the insurance provider (s). There are professionals who do this, I assume they also fumigate for other problems, and they can probably give you good info on what can and cannot be cleaned and made smoke-free. Good luck. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:36 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire Hi, I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned down today. My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's trying to air it out. Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a corner. She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the paper hanger promise to mud that up. Maybe they didn't? So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double hairline" as she calls it. but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the plaster, which will smell. Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? What will do it for her? If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for that worst place 2 feet from her bed? Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. Best to you all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
so far what they've told her, is that they could ?"fumigate"? but that she has a very clean home and it would put dust everywhere. ?? On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Lenny McHugh wrote: > There are professional people that do clean ups after fires. Her home owner's > insurance should both cover the cost and possibly recommend a group. > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire > > > Hi, > I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned > down today. > My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. > She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's > trying to air it out. > Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell > out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" > The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. > There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a > corner. > She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the > paper hanger promise to mud that up. > Maybe they didn't? > So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? > Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double > hairline" as she calls it. > but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the > plaster, which will smell. > Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new > plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? > Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? > What will do it for her? > If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for > that worst place 2 feet from her bed? > Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. > Best to you all. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
It sounds like she has 2 steps to fixing the plaster. Since it is older, something like an awl or scribe needs to be drug the length of both cracks, forming a sort of V shape. After making the 2 grooves, they need to be watered down with something like a spray bottle. Just direct the spray into the grooves. The reason for the water is to keep the plaster from leaching the moisture out of the joint compound and making it dry too quickly. Which would just let a new crack start... After the joint compound has dried and been sanded smooth, paint the area with some Kilz 2 primer. I can only speak for the Kilz brand but I can tell you from having a fire in my house before that you can actually paint over the smoke blackened area with this stuff and it covers the black and the smell. BTW I used the water based version, they have both water or oil bases. It's sure a lot quicker going this route than washing and waiting and washing again and having to paint over everything in the end anyway. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire Hi, I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned down today. My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's trying to air it out. Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a corner. She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the paper hanger promise to mud that up. Maybe they didn't? So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double hairline" as she calls it. but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the plaster, which will smell. Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? What will do it for her? If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for that worst place 2 feet from her bed? Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. Best to you all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
There are professional people that do clean ups after fires. Her home owner's insurance should both cover the cost and possibly recommend a group. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire Hi, I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned down today. My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's trying to air it out. Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a corner. She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the paper hanger promise to mud that up. Maybe they didn't? So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double hairline" as she calls it. but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the plaster, which will smell. Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? What will do it for her? If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for that worst place 2 feet from her bed? Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. Best to you all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] um, yeah a fire
Hi, I was iformed today that my mom's next door neighbor's house nearly burned down today. My mom, her cats, and 99 % of her house are fine. She says it smells like what an ashtray would think discusting. But she's trying to air it out. Other than the large concern of "will she ever be able to get that smell out of 1920's plaster over brick dividing walls?" The main concern is that she now knows where the cracks are. There is a foot wide by "floor to ceiling" black stain on a wall in a corner. She says that after she took off the wall paper, (last time) she made the paper hanger promise to mud that up. Maybe they didn't? So considering how badly the smoke penitrated her home there, what to do? Obviously the plaster is blaackened, as the crack is only a "double hairline" as she calls it. but as the dark stripe is a foot wide there must be residue in the plaster, which will smell. Does she need to have it removed down to the dividing brick, have new plaster put in, then plastic coated, before repapering? Or will new plaster and a vinyl wall paper do it? What will do it for her? If we can't rid the whole house of the smell but over time, what to do for that worst place 2 feet from her bed? Thanks, she's fine just shaken up. Best to you all.
