Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
yep, same thing with wire, it only gets shorter. or you just bent it, when you knew that one more bend would break it. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Dale Alton wrote: > How about cutting a piece of trim in the wrong direction time and time > again. > - Original Message - > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not > > >> I can't tell you how often I have cut a board more than once only to find >> it >> was still too short. >> >> >> >> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype DaleLeavens >> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:20 PM >> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not >> >> >>> I just did something you won't want to include on your video. I am >>> building >>> a bookcase headboard. >>> >>> This afternoon I put the sides, one of the shelves, and a front panel >>> together. Having learned from my mistakes and other people's advise, I >>> measured the diagonals to make sure everything was square. And, >>> amazingly >>> enough, it was. >>> >>> Then I take the piece of quarter inch plywood that will serve as the back >>> to >>> the headboard and lay it down. Oh no, something isn't right! It fits >>> just >>> right at the bottom but is too narrow at the top. >>> >>> After giving it some thought (clearly not enough thought) I realize the >>> top >>> was a quarter inch too long and so forced the sides to spread too far >>> because I screwed them together at each end of the top. >>> >>> Not a problem, I'll just cut a quarter inch off the top piece and >>> everything >>> will be fine. >>> >>> As a matter of fact, the back piece did fit fine. Then I got the bright >>> idea of using a square to make sure all the corners are 90 degrees. >>> >>> As my square informed me that both top corners were greater than 90 >>> degrees, >>> it hit me!! I had somehow messed up when cutting the quarter inch >>> plywood >>> back. The top had been the right length after all. But now it's a >>> quarter >>> inch too short. >>> >>> I should have known when I left for the Post Office without the mail and >>> so >>> had to go back and get it and then left the post office without getting >>> the >>> package waiting for us that it was not a day to put much stock in my >>> ability >>> to think. >>> >>> So, while I might make the blind bloopers, you don't want me on a video >>> made, at least in part, to show sighted people how competent we blind >>> folks >>> really are. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> To listen to the show archives go to link >>> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >>> or >>> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >>> >>> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >>> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >>> >>> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. >>> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml >>> >>> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >>> Various List Members At The Following Address: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ >>> Visit the new archives page at the following address >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ >>> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >>> list just send a blank message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >>> 14/10/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> To listen to the show archives go to link >> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >> or >> ftp://ftp
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
Ralph You are absalutly correct. I could not have said it better. I was making that comment about shaking my confidence, a bit tung in cheek. If I let my blunders keep me from mmoving forward as a handyman I would not have the tools I have. In just the last 2 years I have aquired the following and although they are all very much what you might call previously enjoyed. and most of them don't get used on a regular basis just when I need them they are there. I am now the prowd owner of and air compresser chopp saw air wrench table saw jig saw cordless drill floor jack and a half dozen mechanics hand tools. So to those handy folks with advanced skills, keep up the good work and for us novices like me keep plugging away. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
Shaking your confidence? Actually, these kinds of stories should strengthen it. First, you know ahead of time you will make major blunders. My brother who is not blind and who has several years experience at a custom cabinet shop told me when I started that a lot of what you learn is how to fix mistakes. Second, if people with the brains it takes to measure once and cut twice can manage to put something together that the wife will allow into the house, you for sure can do it! Ralph _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:07 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not Ok you guys you are shaking my confidence *grin* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
Ok you guys you are shaking my confidence *grin* To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
How about cutting a piece of trim in the wrong direction time and time again. - Original Message - From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not >I can't tell you how often I have cut a board more than once only to find >it > was still too short. > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:20 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not > > >>I just did something you won't want to include on your video. I am >>building >> a bookcase headboard. >> >> This afternoon I put the sides, one of the shelves, and a front panel >> together. Having learned from my mistakes and other people's advise, I >> measured the diagonals to make sure everything was square. And, >> amazingly >> enough, it was. >> >> Then I take the piece of quarter inch plywood that will serve as the back >> to >> the headboard and lay it down. Oh no, something isn't right! It fits >> just >> right at the bottom but is too narrow at the top. >> >> After giving it some thought (clearly not enough thought) I realize the >> top >> was a quarter inch too long and so forced the sides to spread too far >> because I screwed them together at each end of the top. >> >> Not a problem, I'll just cut a quarter inch off the top piece and >> everything >> will be fine. >> >> As a matter of fact, the back piece did fit fine. Then I got the bright >> idea of using a square to make sure all the corners are 90 degrees. >> >> As my square informed me that both top corners were greater than 90 >> degrees, >> it hit me!! I had somehow messed up when cutting the quarter inch >> plywood >> back. The top had been the right length after all. But now it's a >> quarter >> inch too short. >> >> I should have known when I left for the Post Office without the mail and >> so >> had to go back and get it and then left the post office without getting >> the >> package waiting for us that it was not a day to put much stock in my >> ability >> to think. >> >> So, while I might make the blind bloopers, you don't want me on a video >> made, at least in part, to show sighted people how competent we blind >> folks >> really are. >> >> Ralph >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> To listen to the show archives go to link >> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >> or >> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. >> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml >> >> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >> Various List Members At The Following Address: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ >> Visit the new archives page at the following address >> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ >> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >> list just send a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >> 14/10/2006 >> >> > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various List Members At The Following Address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
Ralph, On the other hand, what we want to show is that we do things, and try to do things. Best would be to make them see us as much like themselves, capable of messing up too. when we, at Smith-kettlewell RERC, had a research project that was really a training program to teach blind folks to solder etc. we never criticized anybody for deciding this was something they didn't want to do or couldn't do. we must demand the right to fail also, we're not all 'superblind' All you gotta do is give an honest try, success is not manditory. Now for the good old top stretcher! Tom Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
I can't tell you how often I have cut a board more than once only to find it was still too short. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not >I just did something you won't want to include on your video. I am >building > a bookcase headboard. > > This afternoon I put the sides, one of the shelves, and a front panel > together. Having learned from my mistakes and other people's advise, I > measured the diagonals to make sure everything was square. And, amazingly > enough, it was. > > Then I take the piece of quarter inch plywood that will serve as the back > to > the headboard and lay it down. Oh no, something isn't right! It fits > just > right at the bottom but is too narrow at the top. > > After giving it some thought (clearly not enough thought) I realize the > top > was a quarter inch too long and so forced the sides to spread too far > because I screwed them together at each end of the top. > > Not a problem, I'll just cut a quarter inch off the top piece and > everything > will be fine. > > As a matter of fact, the back piece did fit fine. Then I got the bright > idea of using a square to make sure all the corners are 90 degrees. > > As my square informed me that both top corners were greater than 90 > degrees, > it hit me!! I had somehow messed up when cutting the quarter inch plywood > back. The top had been the right length after all. But now it's a > quarter > inch too short. > > I should have known when I left for the Post Office without the mail and > so > had to go back and get it and then left the post office without getting > the > package waiting for us that it was not a day to put much stock in my > ability > to think. > > So, while I might make the blind bloopers, you don't want me on a video > made, at least in part, to show sighted people how competent we blind > folks > really are. > > Ralph > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various List Members At The Following Address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
May be we could look at it this way. No need to show that we are perfect, because no one is. Blind or sighted. But surely can show that we are capable. Well most of the time. One time Me and some friends replaced a head on a car. They could not get it to fire. I was sure that the cranc shaft and the other part that I think drives the distributer was correct but the can was off. We dragged the car back to my house and over the next couple of days I commence to getting the cam in the correct position. I got the car running and was oh so proud of myself. I was talking to my brother on the phone and as I was talking I found a disconnected wire for the speedometer and in the process of looking at some other things I took off that big air hose that leads to the air cleaner. I think it is called the air ram or some thing. well all was good untill we took it out for a test drive. After the car started on fire and we got that put out, I realized that I did not put that part back in place and it got cautht up in the fan and some how a fire ensude. Not sure what is the moral of the story hear. maybe it is this. Now that you have the head board completed and ready to put in place. don't smoke in bed. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing, Not
I just did something you won't want to include on your video. I am building a bookcase headboard. This afternoon I put the sides, one of the shelves, and a front panel together. Having learned from my mistakes and other people's advise, I measured the diagonals to make sure everything was square. And, amazingly enough, it was. Then I take the piece of quarter inch plywood that will serve as the back to the headboard and lay it down. Oh no, something isn't right! It fits just right at the bottom but is too narrow at the top. After giving it some thought (clearly not enough thought) I realize the top was a quarter inch too long and so forced the sides to spread too far because I screwed them together at each end of the top. Not a problem, I'll just cut a quarter inch off the top piece and everything will be fine. As a matter of fact, the back piece did fit fine. Then I got the bright idea of using a square to make sure all the corners are 90 degrees. As my square informed me that both top corners were greater than 90 degrees, it hit me!! I had somehow messed up when cutting the quarter inch plywood back. The top had been the right length after all. But now it's a quarter inch too short. I should have known when I left for the Post Office without the mail and so had to go back and get it and then left the post office without getting the package waiting for us that it was not a day to put much stock in my ability to think. So, while I might make the blind bloopers, you don't want me on a video made, at least in part, to show sighted people how competent we blind folks really are. Ralph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
