Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-07 Thread RJ
Claymores should do the job.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 22:52
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system




  Dale, your post makes sense but a previous post you sejnt about 
  affordable alarms makes sense too. and let me add that more 
  Americans are carrying concealed and not today then at any time 
  before. and for good reasons because judges do not do their job. end 
  of my rant for now Lee

  On Sat, 
  Mar 06, 2010 at 11:07:00AM -0500, Dale 
  Leavens wrote:
  > See, that is just it!
  > 
  > There are over three hundred million people in the United States. That is a 
number I have trouble grasping. When you then profile the perpetrators of that 
sort of assault and come to understand that most of them already know their 
victim the odds against something like that happening to a single individual 
randomly on a particular point of the earth at a particular point in time 
become incredibly small. Just how does such anxiety get driven into the general 
population? And why? Who or what wants Americans to be so terrified?
  > 
  > Now of course I have no proofs or statistics for the following statement 
but I would gamble the farm that there is far more risk of an automobile 
loosing control and crashing through the fence and running over the tent than 
any personal assault. That sort of thing happens thousands of times a day and 
far more randomly. So often in fact that it is rarely even reported.
  > 
  > Here we are discussing table saw injuries for example. These happen in the 
hundreds per day to people with full sensory capability the lack of which must 
substantially increase our risk and we know from postings on this list or maybe 
the Woodworking for the blind list several people who have had such injuries 
yet we not only continue but aspire to have even more risk associated tools at 
our disposal.
  > 
  > I suppose it could be said that those people randomly shot in their tents 
are no longer available to post to the list but of course that isn't the case. 
Do Americans stay in their homes for fear of drive-by shootings? It all just 
seems like such an unusual environment that people like me from another country 
and another culture have difficulty grasping what it must be like to live under 
that sense of threat all of the time.
  > 
  > Why am I even writing this anyway? I suppose because I feel badly that 
there are so many people so terrified about the world and environment they live 
in. That has to be so crippling, so limiting. Blindness surely is enough!
  > 
  > 
  > If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Tom Hodges 
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:22 AM
  > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
  > children. Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
  > jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed. If a child
  > predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
  > children ar sleeping in it. Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
  > or too careful.
  > 
  > Hang in there, Tom.
  > 
  > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  > On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
  > 
  > Hi Spiro,
  > 
  > I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
  > perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
  > but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
  > it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.
  > 
  > Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
  > finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
  > be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.
  > 
  > My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
  > situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
  > little to do but pay attention to me.
  > 
  > This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
  > it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
  > and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
  > worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
  > and during the sunshine.
  > 
  > If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  > - 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Lee A. Stone

Dale,   your post makes sense  but a previous post you sejnt  about 
affordable alarms   makes sense too.  and let me add that more 
Americans are carrying concealed and  not today then  at any time  
before. and for good reasons because judges do not do their job.  end 
of my rant for now  Lee


On Sat, 
Mar 06, 2010 at 11:07:00AM -0500, Dale 
Leavens wrote:
> See, that is just it!
> 
> There are over three hundred million people in the United States. That is a 
> number I have trouble grasping. When you then profile the perpetrators of 
> that sort of assault and come to understand that most of them already know 
> their victim the odds against something like that happening to a single 
> individual randomly on a particular point of the earth at a particular point 
> in time become incredibly small. Just how does such anxiety get driven into 
> the general population? And why? Who or what wants Americans to be so 
> terrified?
> 
> Now of course I have no proofs or statistics for the following statement but 
> I would gamble the farm that there is far more risk of an automobile loosing 
> control and crashing through the fence and running over the tent than any 
> personal assault. That sort of thing happens thousands of times a day and far 
> more randomly. So often in fact that it is rarely even reported.
> 
> Here we are discussing table saw injuries for example. These happen in the 
> hundreds per day to people with full sensory capability the lack of which 
> must substantially increase our risk and we know from postings on this list 
> or maybe the Woodworking for the blind list several people who have had such 
> injuries yet we not only continue but aspire to have even more risk 
> associated tools at our disposal.
> 
> I suppose it could be said that those people randomly shot in their tents are 
> no longer available to post to the list but of course that isn't the case. Do 
> Americans stay in their homes for fear of drive-by shootings? It all just 
> seems like such an unusual environment that people like me from another 
> country and another culture have difficulty grasping what it must be like to 
> live under that sense of threat all of the time.
> 
> Why am I even writing this anyway? I suppose because I feel badly that there 
> are so many people so terrified about the world and environment they live in. 
> That has to be so crippling, so limiting. Blindness surely is enough!
> 
> 
> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>   - Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tom Hodges 
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:22 AM
>   Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
> 
> 
> 
>   I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
>   children. Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
>   jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed. If a child
>   predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
>   children ar sleeping in it. Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
>   or too careful.
> 
>   Hang in there, Tom.
> 
>   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>   On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>   Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
> 
>   Hi Spiro,
> 
>   I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
>   perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
>   but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
>   it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.
> 
>   Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
>   finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
>   be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.
> 
>   My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
>   situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
>   little to do but pay attention to me.
> 
>   This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
>   it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
>   and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
>   worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
>   and during the sunshine.
> 
>   If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Spiro 
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>   Sent: Thursday, March 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Spiro
well, I can tell you, that the front lawns of half the houses on this 
block 3 ft drop over either a 6 or 12  ft length. The reason I say half is 
that the house on about a 45 degree angle from the cross street now has  a 
3ft wall and they filled in their slope with dirt. I am one of the houses 
that have that wall. So no car worries.
I take your point.
But I also thank those who have come up with viable ideas as the handyman 
aspect was what could a blind guy make to do a function.

No, I won't take up flying.





On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Dale Leavens wrote:

> See, that is just it!
>
> There are over three hundred million people in the United States. That is a 
> number I have trouble grasping. When you then profile the perpetrators of 
> that sort of assault and come to understand that most of them already know 
> their victim the odds against something like that happening to a single 
> individual randomly on a particular point of the earth at a particular point 
> in time become incredibly small. Just how does such anxiety get driven into 
> the general population? And why? Who or what wants Americans to be so 
> terrified?
>
> Now of course I have no proofs or statistics for the following statement but 
> I would gamble the farm that there is far more risk of an automobile loosing 
> control and crashing through the fence and running over the tent than any 
> personal assault. That sort of thing happens thousands of times a day and far 
> more randomly. So often in fact that it is rarely even reported.
>
> Here we are discussing table saw injuries for example. These happen in the 
> hundreds per day to people with full sensory capability the lack of which 
> must substantially increase our risk and we know from postings on this list 
> or maybe the Woodworking for the blind list several people who have had such 
> injuries yet we not only continue but aspire to have even more risk 
> associated tools at our disposal.
>
> I suppose it could be said that those people randomly shot in their tents are 
> no longer available to post to the list but of course that isn't the case. Do 
> Americans stay in their homes for fear of drive-by shootings? It all just 
> seems like such an unusual environment that people like me from another 
> country and another culture have difficulty grasping what it must be like to 
> live under that sense of threat all of the time.
>
> Why am I even writing this anyway? I suppose because I feel badly that there 
> are so many people so terrified about the world and environment they live in. 
> That has to be so crippling, so limiting. Blindness surely is enough!
>
>
> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Tom Hodges
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:22 AM
>  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
>  I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
>  children. Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
>  jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed. If a child
>  predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
>  children ar sleeping in it. Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
>  or too careful.
>
>  Hang in there, Tom.
>
>  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>  Hi Spiro,
>
>  I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
>  perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
>  but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
>  it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.
>
>  Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
>  finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
>  be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.
>
>  My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
>  situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
>  little to do but pay attention to me.
>
>  This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
>  it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
>  and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
>  worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
>  and during the sunshine.
>
>  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>  - Original Message 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Spiro
thanks.
I think the situation depends on if a monofilament would be seen.
If seen by moonlight, or flashlight I'm sunk.
Otherwise a stack of metal trashcans are gonna make one heck of a noise, 
unless I get a better idea.





On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Tom Hodges wrote:

> I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
> children.  Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
> jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed.  If a child
> predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
> children ar sleeping in it.  Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
> or too careful.
>
> Hang in there, Tom.
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Spiro,
>
> I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
> perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
> but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
> it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.
>
> Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
> finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
> be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.
>
> My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
> situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
> little to do but pay attention to me.
>
> This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
> it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
> and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
> worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
> and during the sunshine.
>
> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
> Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my
> daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive
> by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me
> just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to
> be awakened first.
> "what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
> With sincere regards.
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
>
>> What if they parachute in over the fence?
>>
>> Jen
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Spiro
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
>> flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
>> What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
>> started to scream?
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
>>
>>> put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what
> ever will clang together when they trip over it
>>> put it about knee high
>>> an old Vietnam trick.
>>> OK wasn't there but have read many books
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Spiro
oddly enough I have that covered by satelite.





On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Tom Hodges wrote:

> What if they tunnel in and come up in the tent?  Sorry, couldn't pass that
> one up.
>
>
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:27 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
>
>
> What if they parachute in over the fence?
>
> Jen
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
> I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
> flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
> What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
> started to scream?
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
>
>> put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever
> will clang together when they trip over it
>> put it about knee high
>> an old Vietnam trick.
>> OK wasn't there but have read many books
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Dale Leavens
See, that is just it!

There are over three hundred million people in the United States. That is a 
number I have trouble grasping. When you then profile the perpetrators of that 
sort of assault and come to understand that most of them already know their 
victim the odds against something like that happening to a single individual 
randomly on a particular point of the earth at a particular point in time 
become incredibly small. Just how does such anxiety get driven into the general 
population? And why? Who or what wants Americans to be so terrified?

Now of course I have no proofs or statistics for the following statement but I 
would gamble the farm that there is far more risk of an automobile loosing 
control and crashing through the fence and running over the tent than any 
personal assault. That sort of thing happens thousands of times a day and far 
more randomly. So often in fact that it is rarely even reported.

Here we are discussing table saw injuries for example. These happen in the 
hundreds per day to people with full sensory capability the lack of which must 
substantially increase our risk and we know from postings on this list or maybe 
the Woodworking for the blind list several people who have had such injuries 
yet we not only continue but aspire to have even more risk associated tools at 
our disposal.

I suppose it could be said that those people randomly shot in their tents are 
no longer available to post to the list but of course that isn't the case. Do 
Americans stay in their homes for fear of drive-by shootings? It all just seems 
like such an unusual environment that people like me from another country and 
another culture have difficulty grasping what it must be like to live under 
that sense of threat all of the time.

Why am I even writing this anyway? I suppose because I feel badly that there 
are so many people so terrified about the world and environment they live in. 
That has to be so crippling, so limiting. Blindness surely is enough!


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
  children. Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
  jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed. If a child
  predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
  children ar sleeping in it. Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
  or too careful.

  Hang in there, Tom.

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

  Hi Spiro,

  I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
  perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
  but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
  it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.

  Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
  finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
  be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.

  My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
  situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
  little to do but pay attention to me.

  This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
  it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
  and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
  worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
  and during the sunshine.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

  Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
  daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
  by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
  just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
  be awakened first.
  "what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
  With sincere regards.
  Thanks

  On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

  > What if they parachute in over the fence?
  >
  > Jen
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Spiro
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

  > Sent

RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Tom Hodges
I don't think a blind person should be shooting a shotgun in the night with
children around.

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:19 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

 

  

Borrow a dog when you camp, and get a 10 gage shot gun with fbirt shot.

John
http://WhiteCane.org
http://BlindWoodWorker.com
http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane
http://anellos.ws

- Original Message - 
From: Spiro 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
be awakened first.
"what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
With sincere regards.
Thanks

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> What if they parachute in over the fence?
>
> Jen
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
> flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
> What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
> started to scream?
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
>
> > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what
ever will clang together when they trip over it
> > put it about knee high
> > an old Vietnam trick.
> > OK wasn't there but have read many books
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Tom Hodges
I would certainly be paranoid about sleeping in the yard in a tent with
children.  Look at the news this past week, a 16 year old girl couldn't even
jog in a park in San Diego without getting raped and killed.  If a child
predator saw a tent in a yard, I think their first inclination would be that
children ar sleeping in it.  Again, no, I don't think you are being paranoid
or too careful.

Hang in there, Tom.

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

 

  

Hi Spiro,

I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you
perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe
but what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think
it is a blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.

Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then
finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not
be in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.

My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a
situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so
little to do but pay attention to me.

This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada
it is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard
and leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't
worry about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing
and during the sunshine.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
- Original Message - 
From: Spiro 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
be awakened first.
"what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
With sincere regards.
Thanks

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> What if they parachute in over the fence?
>
> Jen
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
> flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
> What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
> started to scream?
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
>
> > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what
ever will clang together when they trip over it
> > put it about knee high
> > an old Vietnam trick.
> > OK wasn't there but have read many books
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-06 Thread Tom Hodges
What if they tunnel in and come up in the tent?  Sorry, couldn't pass that
one up.

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:27 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

 

  

What if they parachute in over the fence?

Jen

- Original Message - 
From: Spiro 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a 
flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it 
started to scream?

On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:

> put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever
will clang together when they trip over it
> put it about knee high
> an old Vietnam trick.
> OK wasn't there but have read many books
> Jim
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-05 Thread Spiro
Yes, by far, and fenced as well.





On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Bob Kennedy wrote:

> Is the front yard larger than the back yard?  Most back yards aren't visible 
> from the street and it would seem at least a little safer there.  Out of 
> sight out of mind and all.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> As a friend wrote in private email:
> the bathroom isn't far away, nor is the coffee pot.
> I have a big front yard and it's where I'll be trying the tent deal to
> start. That's why I wanted a warning system that I could assemble as a
> blind person to alert me to anyone getting funny. Not interested in being
> far into the woods or something.
> No transportation to deep into state park land.
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Blaine Deutscher wrote:
>
>> what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be
>> some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one that
>> is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going
>> camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my
>> family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and how
>> to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark outside
>> as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all
>> later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
>> Blaine
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Spiro
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
>> anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
>> I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
>> there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
>> :)
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>>>
>>> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jennifer
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Spiro
>>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I want to assemble something.
>>> I need to figure it out first.
>>> It's blind related.
>>> I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
>>> over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
>>> But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
>>> Philadelphia.
>>> So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
>>> I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
>>> the tent.
>>> Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
>>> had a flashlight.
>>> Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
>>> The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
>>> No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
>>> I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
>>> me a bit due to blindness.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Lenny McHugh
Just thinking about it, how well lit is your front yard? Maybe the best 
thing would be a motion detector spot light. You could get one with two 
spots and use one side for an audible alarm and the spot would do the rest. 
I do believe that anyone prowling around will quickly run from a well lit 
area.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Kennedy" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system


Is the front yard larger than the back yard?  Most back yards aren't visible 
from the street and it would seem at least a little safer there.  Out of 
sight out of mind and all.


- Original Message - 
From: Spiro
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



As a friend wrote in private email:
the bathroom isn't far away, nor is the coffee pot.
I have a big front yard and it's where I'll be trying the tent deal to
start. That's why I wanted a warning system that I could assemble as a
blind person to alert me to anyone getting funny. Not interested in being
far into the woods or something.
No transportation to deep into state park land.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Blaine Deutscher wrote:

> what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be
> some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one 
> that
> is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going
> camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my
> family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and 
> how
> to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark 
> outside
> as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all
> later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
> Blaine
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
> anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
> I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
> there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
> :)
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>>
>> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>>
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Spiro
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> I want to assemble something.
>> I need to figure it out first.
>> It's blind related.
>> I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
>> over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
>> But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
>> Philadelphia.
>> So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
>> I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
>> the tent.
>> Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
>> had a flashlight.
>> Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
>> The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
>> No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
>> I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which 
>> spooks
>> me a bit due to blindness.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Howell
A pack of vicious dogs will keep them out. grin
On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> What if they parachute in over the fence?
> 
> Jen
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Spiro 
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
> 
> I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a 
> flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
> What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it 
> started to scream?
> 
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
> 
> > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
> > will clang together when they trip over it
> > put it about knee high
> > an old Vietnam trick.
> > OK wasn't there but have read many books
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Kennedy
Is the front yard larger than the back yard?  Most back yards aren't visible 
from the street and it would seem at least a little safer there.  Out of sight 
out of mind and all.


- Original Message - 
From: Spiro 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system


  
As a friend wrote in private email:
the bathroom isn't far away, nor is the coffee pot.
I have a big front yard and it's where I'll be trying the tent deal to 
start. That's why I wanted a warning system that I could assemble as a 
blind person to alert me to anyone getting funny. Not interested in being 
far into the woods or something.
No transportation to deep into state park land.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Blaine Deutscher wrote:

> what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be
> some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one that
> is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going
> camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my
> family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and how
> to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark outside
> as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all
> later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
> Blaine
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
> anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
> I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
> there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
> :)
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>>
>> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>>
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Spiro
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> I want to assemble something.
>> I need to figure it out first.
>> It's blind related.
>> I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
>> over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
>> But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
>> Philadelphia.
>> So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
>> I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
>> the tent.
>> Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
>> had a flashlight.
>> Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
>> The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
>> No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
>> I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
>> me a bit due to blindness.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread John Sherrer
Borrow a dog when you camp, and get a 10 gage shot gun with fbirt shot.

John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
  daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
  by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
  just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
  be awakened first.
  "what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
  With sincere regards.
  Thanks

  On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

  > What if they parachute in over the fence?
  >
  > Jen
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Spiro
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
  >
  >
  >
  > I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
  > flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
  > What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
  > started to scream?
  >
  > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
  >
  > > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
will clang together when they trip over it
  > > put it about knee high
  > > an old Vietnam trick.
  > > OK wasn't there but have read many books
  > > Jim
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Jennifer Jackson
Ok, my point is that you can not allow for everything.  I am not trying to say 
you are paranoid.  Can they really see into your back yard?  Are you worried 
about someone coming through the fence into your back yard in an accident?

I think if you think it is a safe place back their in the daytime, it probably 
is at night too.  We can worry ourselves to death with the what ifs.

If you will feel safer, there are all kinds of motion detecting gadgets on the 
market for really cheap.  You can probably set up a perimeter around the tent 
for less than $50.




Jennifer

  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
  daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
  by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
  just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
  be awakened first.
  "what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
  With sincere regards.
  Thanks

  On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

  > What if they parachute in over the fence?
  >
  > Jen
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Spiro
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
  >
  >
  >
  > I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
  > flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
  > What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
  > started to scream?
  >
  > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
  >
  > > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
will clang together when they trip over it
  > > put it about knee high
  > > an old Vietnam trick.
  > > OK wasn't there but have read many books
  > > Jim
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Dale Leavens
Hi Spiro,

I think that many of us have a difficult time in imagining the danger you 
perceive. Of course just because I am paranoid doesn't mean I am not safe but 
what would the motivation be to molest you in your tent? I don't think it is a 
blindness issue, blind or not one sleeps.

Running along a motorway at what ever speed and seeing a tent in a yard then 
finding a turn around to go back and park to molest who ever may or may not be 
in that tent seems a stretch to me and probably many others.

My sister once dropped a pearl of wisdom when I expressed anxiety about a 
situation. She told me I was being pretty arrogant to think people had so 
little to do but pay attention to me.

This maybe an easier conclusion from the quiet peaceful back woods of Canada it 
is rue. Last summer though we did have a bear walk through the front yard and 
leave a calling card but that is so rare an incident that I wouldn't worry 
about sleeping in the yard. Actually I often do, albeit on the swing and during 
the sunshine.

 
If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
  daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
  by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
  just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
  be awakened first.
  "what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
  With sincere regards.
  Thanks

  On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

  > What if they parachute in over the fence?
  >
  > Jen
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Spiro
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
  >
  >
  >
  > I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
  > flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
  > What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
  > started to scream?
  >
  > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
  >
  > > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
will clang together when they trip over it
  > > put it about knee high
  > > an old Vietnam trick.
  > > OK wasn't there but have read many books
  > > Jim
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Spiro
As a friend wrote in private email:
the bathroom isn't far away, nor is the coffee pot.
I have a big front yard and it's where I'll be trying the tent deal to 
start. That's why I wanted a warning system that I could assemble as a 
blind person to alert me to anyone getting funny. Not interested in being 
far into the woods or something.
No transportation to deep into state park land.





On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Blaine Deutscher wrote:

> what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be
> some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one that
> is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going
> camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my
> family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and how
> to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark outside
> as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all
> later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
> Blaine
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
> anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
> I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
> there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
> :)
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>>
>> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>>
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Spiro
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> I want to assemble something.
>> I need to figure it out first.
>> It's blind related.
>> I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
>> over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
>> But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
>> Philadelphia.
>> So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
>> I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
>> the tent.
>> Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
>> had a flashlight.
>> Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
>> The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
>> No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
>> I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
>> me a bit due to blindness.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Spiro
Hey, before my earnest attempt to build something as a blind dad so my 
daughter and I can camp in the yard while route #1 midnight idiots drive 
by; is railroaded into a silliness festival (no offense intended) let me 
just fantasize that I have a machine gun to shoot bozos; but still have to 
be awakened first.
"what if they drive through with a tank" doesn't help my project.
With sincere regards.
Thanks




On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> What if they parachute in over the fence?
>
> Jen
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Spiro
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
>  I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a
>  flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
>  What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it
>  started to scream?
>
>  On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:
>
>  > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
> will clang together when they trip over it
>  > put it about knee high
>  > an old Vietnam trick.
>  > OK wasn't there but have read many books
>  > Jim
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Jennifer Jackson
What if they parachute in over the fence?

Jen

  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a 
  flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
  What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it 
  started to scream?

  On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:

  > put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
will clang together when they trip over it
  > put it about knee high
  > an old Vietnam trick.
  > OK wasn't there but have read many books
  > Jim
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Spiro
I'm with ya. Read a lot as well. question is "what if they have a 
flashlight and see the monofiliment?"
What were those alarm items called, that when the pin was pulled it 
started to scream?





On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, jim wrote:

> put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever 
> will clang together when they trip over it
> put it about knee high
> an old Vietnam trick.
> OK wasn't there but have read many books
> Jim
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-04 Thread Lee A. Stone

I have been to  state parks camping with some sighted family but my 
guide dog and I hafve  gone finshing in the middle of the night by 
ourselves and I have no light perception .  it would be helpfull if a 
park   officer were to edxplain   yes where the  bathrooms/ latrines 
are  and a waer source but other than that camping is blind friendly. 
I understand whereSpiro  is coming from  as he is camping near a 
busy intersection of a main highway..  maybe have a local cop do a 
driveby   on  the late shift.  Lee

On 
Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 
11:50:15PM -0600, Blaine Deutscher wrote:
> what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be 
> some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one that 
> is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going 
> camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my 
> family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and how 
> to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark outside 
> as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all 
> later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
> Blaine
> - Original Message - 
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
> anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
> I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
> there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
> :)
> 
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
> 
> > Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
> >
> > What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
> >
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Spiro
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> > I want to assemble something.
> > I need to figure it out first.
> > It's blind related.
> > I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
> > over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
> > But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
> > Philadelphia.
> > So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
> > I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
> > the tent.
> > Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
> > had a flashlight.
> > Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
> > The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
> > No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
> > I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
> > me a bit due to blindness.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
Never say you know a man until you have divided an inheritance with him.


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Blaine Deutscher
what's wrong with camping in a park? Is your wife sighted? There might be 
some challenges if the two of you are blind but if you're the only one that 
is blind and your wife is sighted then I don't see the problem going 
camping. I do it, and I don't have a wife, but when I would go with my 
family I still enjoyed it. Sure I had to learn around the camp site and how 
to get to the restroom, which is a challenge when it's totally dark outside 
as the depth perception is less for me. I managed though. Talk to you all 
later. and camping in the back yard is so much fun.
Blaine
- Original Message - 
From: Spiro
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



Hi,
I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case
anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and
there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
:)

On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>
> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>
>
> Jennifer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Spiro
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
> I want to assemble something.
> I need to figure it out first.
> It's blind related.
> I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
> over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
> But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
> Philadelphia.
> So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
> I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
> the tent.
> Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
> had a flashlight.
> Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
> The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
> No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
> I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
> me a bit due to blindness.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Ward & Kathy Dudley
Remember to add a few loose stones into the cans.  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread jim
put a string around the tent, and string on it some tincans and what ever will 
clang together when they trip over it
put it about knee high
an old Vietnam trick.
OK wasn't there but have read many books
Jim


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Spiro
Hi,
I'm not concerned she'll run away. I wanted a parimeter alarm if in case 
anyone wanted to go bother the folks in the tent on the lawn. (that's me).
I'd happily electrify the fence but the fence goes to the sidewalk and 
there might be a legal challenge that would hold up.
:)





On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?
>
> What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Spiro
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system
>
>
>
>  Hi folks,
>  I want to assemble something.
>  I need to figure it out first.
>  It's blind related.
>  I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn
>  over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
>  But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in
>  Philadelphia.
>  So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
>  I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near
>  the tent.
>  Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they
>  had a flashlight.
>  Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
>  The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
>  No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
>  I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks
>  me a bit due to blindness.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Jennifer Jackson
Refresh my memory on how old your child is again, please?

What about a short tether tied on your wrist and hers?


Jennifer

  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system



  Hi folks,
  I want to assemble something.
  I need to figure it out first.
  It's blind related.
  I'm blind, and I've promised my kid we will sleep in the tent on the lawn 
  over the summer. It is fenced, 20x50 ft.
  But honestly, though it's not a bad area, it's close to route #1 in 
  Philadelphia.
  So I want an audible security system of an inner and outer ring.
  I want something along or just inside the fenceline, and something near 
  the tent.
  Now, What is unsure is what a sighted loon might or might not see if they 
  had a flashlight.
  Claymore mines are not a safe option, as one good friend suggested.
  The tent is nylon 12ft dome, so the material won't be great protection.
  No, I'm not expecting a knifed psycho, but o I need one?
  I think it would be great, and easier than camping in a park. Which spooks 
  me a bit due to blindness.



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Spiro
Thanks Dan,
It may be a little smaller. I can stand in it and I'm 5'8.. Maybe the 
footprint is closer to 10ft round.
I'm very fond of it and have had it for 17 years.
Yeah, some kind of howler set up maybe.
But low teck would be nice as well.





On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Spiro,
>
> 12 foot dome tent for you and your kid?  Nice!  My friends would call that
> the Palace!
>
> This isn't the answer you are looking for, because it is pretty
> non-specific, but I am pretty sure there are all kinds of cheapo IR alarm
> thingees, can probably get them from Radio Shak.  You know the kind of
> thing, break the invisible IR beam and a chime sounds.  If I get some time
> today, I'll try and find something specific, but this shouldn't be too
> hard to find.
>
> Later.
>
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] lmidnight altert system

2010-03-03 Thread Dan Rossi
Spiro,

12 foot dome tent for you and your kid?  Nice!  My friends would call that 
the Palace!

This isn't the answer you are looking for, because it is pretty 
non-specific, but I am pretty sure there are all kinds of cheapo IR alarm 
thingees, can probably get them from Radio Shak.  You know the kind of 
thing, break the invisible IR beam and a chime sounds.  If I get some time 
today, I'll try and find something specific, but this shouldn't be too 
hard to find.

Later.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081