Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-19 Thread Dale Leavens
I see,

I am aware of the roof top units now that you remind me, can't say as I have 
seen them at ground level except for the through the wall sort often used in 
hotels and in place of window style units. I don't suppose there are very many 
in domestic use. Anyway, Kevin won't be cleaning that type.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: chiliblindman 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils



  Hello Dale,
  I have worked on many one-piece units already, mostly commercial. Most 
started as roof-top units.
  The idea was applied to homes and trailer homes. They come complete, ready to 
run. Hook up duct for supply and return, usually done with a matching kit for 
the unit you got. You supply the power line and thermostat wires to it and you 
are running.
  The units usually last at least 20 years without hardly any trouble if, the 
power line is heavy to handle the starting current with ease, and the condenser 
coil is hosed off every year.
  Most of the time the unit just sits near ground level which is the reason 
they need a cleaning so often with mower clipping and crap.
  A lot of times there is one main cover for getting to things. It will allow 
you do get to the condenser motor, evaporator coil and motor. With the cover in 
place it seals both compartments and keeps them separate.
  The reason they last so long is no idiot has to hook anything together or rig 
something to work, just power, duct connection and control thermostat. The cost 
is cheaper since most labor is in a factory. 
  They come in any form factor, heat and A/C, gas , oil, electric heat, heat 
pump with gas back-up. You want it, you can get it. A nice one was made in 
Canada with dual compressors which was efficient down to zero degrees F.
  bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-19 Thread chiliblindman
Hello Dale,
 I have worked on many one-piece units already, mostly commercial.  Most 
started as roof-top units.
 The idea was applied to homes and trailer homes.  They come complete, 
ready to run.  Hook up duct for supply and return, usually done with a matching 
kit for the unit you got.  You supply the power line and thermostat wires to it 
and you are running.
 The units usually last at least 20 years without hardly any trouble if, 
the power line is heavy to handle the starting current with ease, and the 
condenser coil is hosed off every year.
 Most of the time the unit just sits near ground level which is the reason 
they need a cleaning so often with mower clipping and crap.
 A lot of times there is one main cover for getting to things.  It will 
allow you do get to the condenser motor, evaporator coil and motor.  With the 
cover in place it seals both compartments and keeps them separate.
 The reason they last so long is no idiot has to hook anything together or 
rig something to work, just power, duct connection and control thermostat.  The 
cost is cheaper since most labor is in a factory.  
 They come in any form factor, heat and A/C, gas , oil, electric heat, heat 
pump with gas back-up.  You want it, you can get it.  A nice one was made in 
Canada with dual compressors which was efficient down to zero degrees F.
bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-19 Thread Dale Leavens
So essentially a through-the-wall air conditioning. A partition separates the 
hot and cold coils, an air plenum on the cold side just like in a furnace but 
both sets of coils close together. Similar to what is commonly used in motel 
units.

Thanks.

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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils



  My mother's house in Florida had one which was mounted overhead in the 
  garage. Picture a big window AC with none of the decorative stuff on it. 
  The hot air side was ducted out through the side of the garage, intake and 
  outlet, and the cold side went to the ducts in the house, warm air return 
  and outlet. I have also seen one sitting next to a house in which the crawl 
  space access hatch was too small to get the unit through. If we ever have 
  to have our central unit replaced it's going to take one of those. The 
  furnace, evaporator coil, and plenum were put down and the house built over 
  them.

  Regards.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Dale Leavens" 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

  > Bob,
  >
  > Now I am curious. I am unfamiliar with air conditioning units with the 
  > chiller and condenser together. Could you describe that arrangement?
  >
  >
  > If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
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  > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:54 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
  >
  >
  >
  > Kevin, there are many units that have both sets of coils outside. Most of 
  > that type of the one-piece units has a ( 1 ) cover that allows access to 
  > the inside of both coils.
  > So your thinking was correct up to a point. There are many split units 
  > that have one section outside and the other half of the system inside.
  > ...bob
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-18 Thread Max Robinson
My mother's house in Florida had one which was mounted overhead in the 
garage.  Picture a big window AC with none of the decorative stuff on it. 
The hot air side was ducted out through the side of the garage, intake and 
outlet, and the cold side went to the ducts in the house, warm air return 
and outlet.  I have also seen one sitting next to a house in which the crawl 
space access hatch was too small to get the unit through.  If we ever have 
to have our central unit replaced it's going to take one of those.  The 
furnace, evaporator coil, and plenum were put down and the house built over 
them.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com

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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


> Bob,
>
> Now I am curious. I am unfamiliar with air conditioning units with the 
> chiller and condenser together. Could you describe that arrangement?
>
>
> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: chiliblindman
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:54 AM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
>
>
>  Kevin, there are many units that have both sets of coils outside. Most of 
> that type of the one-piece units has a ( 1 ) cover that allows access to 
> the inside of both coils.
>  So your thinking was correct up to a point. There are many split units 
> that have one section outside and the other half of the system inside.
>  ...bob
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> 
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-18 Thread Dale Leavens
Bob,

Now I am curious. I am unfamiliar with air conditioning units with the chiller 
and condenser together. Could you describe that arrangement?


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

  - Original Message - 
  From: chiliblindman 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils



  Kevin, there are many units that have both sets of coils outside. Most of 
that type of the one-piece units has a ( 1 ) cover that allows access to the 
inside of both coils. 
  So your thinking was correct up to a point. There are many split units that 
have one section outside and the other half of the system inside.
  ...bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-18 Thread Kevin Doucet
Thanks Bob,

My brother's unit must have been one of these kind. I think mine is too.

At 07:54 AM 1/18/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Kevin, there are many units that have both sets 
>of coils outside. Most of that type of the 
>one-piece units has a ( 1 ) cover that allows 
>access to the inside of both coils.
>So your thinking was correct up to a point. 
>There are many split units that have one section 
>outside and the other half of the system inside.
>...bob
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-18 Thread chiliblindman
 Kevin, there are many units that have both sets of coils outside.  Most of 
that type of the one-piece units has a ( 1 ) cover that allows access to the 
inside of both coils.  
 So your thinking was correct up to a point.  There are many split units 
that have one section outside and the other half of the system inside.
...bob


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-17 Thread Kevin Doucet
Hi Bob,

Nah, we both use to live in the Big Easy, or Big 
Sleazy, but, we both now live in middle Alabama. Transplanted Cajuns!


At 12:12 PM 1/17/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Kevin, where does your brother live? If it is in 
>the south near the gulf and the drain is not completely open, that can happen.
>bob
>
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>
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-17 Thread chiliblindman
Kevin, where does your brother live?  If it is in the south near the gulf and 
the drain is not completely open, that can happen.
bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-14 Thread Kevin Doucet
You cleaned the coils yourself?


At 10:38 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>I did it myself. I've been trying to talk myself into doing it again. I
>think it needs it.
>
>Regards.
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
> > Wholly crap! Really?
> >
> > Is that what happens when you get your unit serviced?
> >
> > At 07:12 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart. It's put
> >>together with pop rivets. That's why it has only been done once in 38
> >>years
> >>of living here.
> >>
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> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
> >>
> >> >I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
> >> > coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
> >> >
> >> > At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Formula 409 will also work very well.
> >> >>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
I did it myself.  I've been trying to talk myself into doing it again.  I 
think it needs it.

Regards.

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From: "Kevin Doucet" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


> Wholly crap! Really?
>
> Is that what happens when you get your unit serviced?
>
> At 07:12 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart. It's put
>>together with pop rivets. That's why it has only been done once in 38 
>>years
>>of living here.
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>Max. K 4 O D S.
>>
>>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>>
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>><http://www.funwithtransistors.net>http://www.funwithtransistors.net
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>>To: 
>><<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
>>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>>
>> >I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
>> > coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
>> >
>> > At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Formula 409 will also work very well.
>> >>
>> >>Regards.
>> >>
>> >>Max. K 4 O D S.
>> >>
>> >>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>> >>
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>> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
>> >>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>> >>
>> >> > Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.
>> >> > The
>> >> > repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
>> >> > cleaned
>> >> > the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying
>> >> > from
>> >> > the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He
>> >> > said
>> >> > if
>> >> > that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another
>> >> > problem.
>> >> > I
>> >> > gave it a good

Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
Wholly crap! Really?

Is that what happens when you get your unit serviced?

At 07:12 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart. It's put
>together with pop rivets. That's why it has only been done once in 38 years
>of living here.
>
>Regards.
>
>Max. K 4 O D S.
>
>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
> >I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
> > coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
> >
> > At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Formula 409 will also work very well.
> >>
> >>Regards.
> >>
> >>Max. K 4 O D S.
> >>
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> >><<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
> >>
> >> > Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.
> >> > The
> >> > repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
> >> > cleaned
> >> > the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying
> >> > from
> >> > the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He
> >> > said
> >> > if
> >> > that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another
> >> > problem.
> >> > I
> >> > gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
> >> > has
> >> > been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the
> >> > dirt
> >> > from accumulating again.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
> >> > supposed
> >> > to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
> >> > said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it
> >> > in
> >> > a
> >> > large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
> >> > because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps.
> >> &

Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart.  It's put 
together with pop rivets.  That's why it has only been done once in 38 years 
of living here.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Doucet" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


>I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
> coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
>
> At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Formula 409 will also work very well.
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>Max. K 4 O D S.
>>
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>>
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>>To: 
>><<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
>>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>>
>> > Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. 
>> > The
>> > repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
>> > cleaned
>> > the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying 
>> > from
>> > the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He 
>> > said
>> > if
>> > that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another 
>> > problem.
>> > I
>> > gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
>> > has
>> > been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the 
>> > dirt
>> > from accumulating again.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
>> > supposed
>> > to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
>> > said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it 
>> > in
>> > a
>> > large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
>> > because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From:
>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
>> > To: 
>> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
>> > own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
>> > how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > Send any questions regarding list management to:
>> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer 
coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?

At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Formula 409 will also work very well.
>
>Regards.
>
>Max. K 4 O D S.
>
>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
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><http://www.funwithtransistors.net>http://www.funwithtransistors.net
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>To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
> > Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. The
> > repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
> > cleaned
> > the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
> > the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He said
> > if
> > that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem.
> > I
> > gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
> > has
> > been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
> > from accumulating again.
> >
> >
> >
> > The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
> > supposed
> > to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
> > said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in
> > a
> > large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
> > because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
> > To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
> > own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
> > how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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> > Or
> > 
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> >
> > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
Hmmm,

Definitely worth trying.


At 04:57 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. The
>repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just cleaned
>the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
>the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He said if
>that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem. I
>gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It has
>been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
>from accumulating again.
>
>The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is supposed
>to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
>said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in a
>large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
>because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
>
>Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
>
>From: 
>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
>To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
>Hi list,
>
>I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
>own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
>how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
Formula 409 will also work very well.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hodges" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


> Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.  The
> repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just 
> cleaned
> the outside unit myself.  He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
> the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it.  He said 
> if
> that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem. 
> I
> gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on.  It 
> has
> been fine ever since.  I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
> from accumulating again.
>
>
>
> The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is 
> supposed
> to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it.  He
> said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in 
> a
> large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
> because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
>
>
>
> Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
>
>
>
>
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
> I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
> own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
> how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> 
>
> Send any questions regarding list management to:
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> Or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various 
> List Members At The Following address:
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>
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>
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Tom Hodges
Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.  The
repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just cleaned
the outside unit myself.  He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it.  He said if
that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem.  I
gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on.  It has
been fine ever since.  I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
from accumulating again.  

 

The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is supposed
to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it.  He
said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in a
large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units. 

 

Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

 

  

Hi list,

I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your 
own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and 
how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread chiliblindman
I'm not a total.  I clean my coils about every 5 years if needed.  I think 
right now I am going on 7 years on the inside coil and 2 on the outside unit.  
...bob

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