Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup

2022-05-18 Thread Chris Harrelson 
LGTM to experiment.

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 2:09 PM 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev <
blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

> We are planning to run the OT in Microsoft Edge 104, 105 and 106.
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> *From:* Yoav Weiss 
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2022 9:39 PM
> *To:* Benjamin Beaudry 
> *Cc:* blink-dev@chromium.org 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup
>
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> What milestones are you planning to run the experiment on?
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:05 PM 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev <
> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Contact emails bebea...@microsoft.com
>
> Explainer
> https://open-ui.org/components/focusgroup.explainer
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopen-ui.org%2Fcomponents%2Ffocusgroup.explainer&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844177189%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=832Qy%2FC2VvJe%2BHQod4BaP058%2B%2BRMpJQyr642VFf4v3w%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Summary
>
> The Focusgroup feature will facilitate keyboard focus navigation using the
> keyboard arrow keys among a set of focusable elements.
>
>
> Blink component Blink>DOM
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.chromium.org%2Fp%2Fchromium%2Fissues%2Flist%3Fq%3Dcomponent%3ABlink%253EDOM&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FRwKPTf%2Fz5PJqfrr4QKbpoXjbnKWB26HxlIG8%2BmZyOA%3D&reserved=0>
>
> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/732
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fdesign-reviews%2Fissues%2F732&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NVu5rKxn9UPFUxkpeSy5hYpr1XU61gtZ2j5A73tqBHU%3D&reserved=0>
>
> TAG review status Pending
>
> Risks
>
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
>
>
> *Gecko*: No signal (
> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/631
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmozilla%2Fstandards-positions%2Fissues%2F631&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rGOaXNtgr2AtXVjiPIRnwvJQi2%2BtQ6UD53k3wRA5KfM%3D&reserved=0>)
> Pending
>
> *WebKit*: No signal
>
> *Web developers*: Positive
>
> *Other signals*:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>
>
>
> Goals for experimentation
>
> Test out the current design of the "focugroup" attribute and get feedback
> from developers to eventually guide spec developement. We are working with
> the Microsoft FAST team (https://github.com/microsoft/fast
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Ffast&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TDM1pwEx8UkZqQ9loTM78zNfdDJlFVl%2F8G2nrTR4H8A%3D&reserved=0>)
> and we expect feedback from them and welcome feedback from the entire web
> community.
>
>
> Reason this experiment is being extended
>
>
>
> Ongoing technical constraints
>
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> Dev tools error logging is supported for various invalid combinations of
> focusgroup values in HTML.
>
>
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes
>
> Supported on all platforms but requires a keyboard with directional arrows.
>
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> &

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup

2022-05-18 Thread 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev 
We are planning to run the OT in Microsoft Edge 104, 105 and 106.

From: Yoav Weiss 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 9:39 PM
To: Benjamin Beaudry 
Cc: blink-dev@chromium.org 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup

You don't often get email from yoavwe...@chromium.org. Learn why this is 
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What milestones are you planning to run the experiment on?

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:05 PM 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev 
mailto:blink-dev@chromium.org>> wrote:
Contact emails
bebea...@microsoft.com<mailto:bebea...@microsoft.com>

Explainer
https://open-ui.org/components/focusgroup.explainer<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopen-ui.org%2Fcomponents%2Ffocusgroup.explainer&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844177189%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=832Qy%2FC2VvJe%2BHQod4BaP058%2B%2BRMpJQyr642VFf4v3w%3D&reserved=0>

Summary

The Focusgroup feature will facilitate keyboard focus navigation using the 
keyboard arrow keys among a set of focusable elements.


Blink component
Blink>DOM<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.chromium.org%2Fp%2Fchromium%2Fissues%2Flist%3Fq%3Dcomponent%3ABlink%253EDOM&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FRwKPTf%2Fz5PJqfrr4QKbpoXjbnKWB26HxlIG8%2BmZyOA%3D&reserved=0>

TAG review
https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/732<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fdesign-reviews%2Fissues%2F732&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NVu5rKxn9UPFUxkpeSy5hYpr1XU61gtZ2j5A73tqBHU%3D&reserved=0>

TAG review status
Pending

Risks


Interoperability and Compatibility


Gecko: No signal 
(https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/631<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmozilla%2Fstandards-positions%2Fissues%2F631&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rGOaXNtgr2AtXVjiPIRnwvJQi2%2BtQ6UD53k3wRA5KfM%3D&reserved=0>)
 Pending

WebKit: No signal

Web developers: Positive

Other signals:

WebView application risks

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that it 
has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?


Goals for experimentation

Test out the current design of the "focugroup" attribute and get feedback from 
developers to eventually guide spec developement. We are working with the 
Microsoft FAST team 
(https://github.com/microsoft/fast<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Ffast&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TDM1pwEx8UkZqQ9loTM78zNfdDJlFVl%2F8G2nrTR4H8A%3D&reserved=0>)
 and we expect feedback from them and welcome feedback from the entire web 
community.


Reason this experiment is being extended


Ongoing technical constraints


Debuggability

Dev tools error logging is supported for various invalid combinations of 
focusgroup values in HTML.


Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, 
Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
Yes

Supported on all platforms but requires a keyboard with directional arrows.


Is this feature fully tested by 
web-platform-tests<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fchromium.googlesource.com%2Fchromium%2Fsrc%2F%2B%2Fmain%2Fdocs%2Ftesting%2Fweb_platform_tests.md&data=05%7C01%7CBenjamin.Beaudry%40microsoft.com%7C3319b693b0f64a7f868008da37bf4069%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637883591844333426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5oq1HhtQCnXvnbTj4b0AXCtH7rwtp7aV8UceQBE2O6A%3D&reserved=0>?
Yes

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Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup

2022-05-16 Thread Yoav Weiss 
What milestones are you planning to run the experiment on?

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:05 PM 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev <
blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

> Contact emails bebea...@microsoft.com
>
> Explainer
> https://open-ui.org/components/focusgroup.explainer
>
> Summary
>
> The Focusgroup feature will facilitate keyboard focus navigation using the
> keyboard arrow keys among a set of focusable elements.
>
>
> Blink component Blink>DOM
> 
>
> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/732
>
> TAG review status Pending
>
> Risks
>
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
>
>
> *Gecko*: No signal (
> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/631) Pending
>
> *WebKit*: No signal
>
> *Web developers*: Positive
>
> *Other signals*:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>
>
>
> Goals for experimentation
>
> Test out the current design of the "focugroup" attribute and get feedback
> from developers to eventually guide spec developement. We are working with
> the Microsoft FAST team (https://github.com/microsoft/fast) and we expect
> feedback from them and welcome feedback from the entire web community.
>
>
> Reason this experiment is being extended
>
>
>
> Ongoing technical constraints
>
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> Dev tools error logging is supported for various invalid combinations of
> focusgroup values in HTML.
>
>
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes
>
> Supported on all platforms but requires a keyboard with directional arrows.
>
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> 
> ? Yes
>
> Flag name --enable-blink-features=Focusgroup
>
> Requires code in //chrome? False
>
> Tracking bug https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1286127
>
> Estimated milestones
>
> No milestones specified
>
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5637601087193088
>
> Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to prototype:
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/BL0PR00MB0820DFE66371FEA5743EA92F9B529%40BL0PR00MB0820.namprd00.prod.outlook.com
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[blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Focusgroup

2022-05-16 Thread 'Benjamin Beaudry' via blink-dev 
Contact emails
bebea...@microsoft.com

Explainer
https://open-ui.org/components/focusgroup.explainer

Summary

The Focusgroup feature will facilitate keyboard focus navigation using the 
keyboard arrow keys among a set of focusable elements.


Blink component
Blink>DOM

TAG review
https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/732

TAG review status
Pending

Risks


Interoperability and Compatibility


Gecko: No signal (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/631) 
Pending

WebKit: No signal

Web developers: Positive

Other signals:

WebView application risks

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that it 
has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?


Goals for experimentation

Test out the current design of the "focugroup" attribute and get feedback from 
developers to eventually guide spec developement. We are working with the 
Microsoft FAST team (https://github.com/microsoft/fast) and we expect feedback 
from them and welcome feedback from the entire web community.


Reason this experiment is being extended


Ongoing technical constraints


Debuggability

Dev tools error logging is supported for various invalid combinations of 
focusgroup values in HTML.


Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, 
Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
Yes

Supported on all platforms but requires a keyboard with directional arrows.


Is this feature fully tested by 
web-platform-tests?
Yes

Flag name
--enable-blink-features=Focusgroup

Requires code in //chrome?
False

Tracking bug
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1286127

Estimated milestones

No milestones specified


Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5637601087193088

Links to previous Intent discussions
Intent to prototype: 
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/BL0PR00MB0820DFE66371FEA5743EA92F9B529%40BL0PR00MB0820.namprd00.prod.outlook.com


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