Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Web Monetization

['Thomas Steiner' via blink-dev]

Hey Alexander,

Is there anything you could share about the outcome of this experimental 
prototype? 

Thanks,
Tom

On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 5:37:19 PM UTC+1 rby...@chromium.org wrote:

> +1. I'm also supportive of prototyping this work. It's obviously a really 
> tricky space, and it's not at all clear yet what would have to be true for 
> us to ship a feature like this in Chrome. But supporting content creators 
> is so important to Chromium's goals of a thriving web that I think we 
> should encourage and support experimentation here. 0.03% of Chrome page 
> loads already having the web monetization tag (despite no mainstream 
> browser support) seems like a very positive sign to me, that's a huge 
> amount of web browsing.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Stephen Mcgruer  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Yoav! We have been working with Alex and Igalia on this 
>> experiment, but appreciate the tag anyway (cc @Rouslan Solomakhin too)
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 04:47, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +Stephen McGruer - FYI
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:19 PM Alexander Surkov  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Contact emails 

 asu...@igalia.com

 Explainer 

 https://webmonetization.org/docs

 High Level Overview 

 High Level Web Monetization Overview 
 
 Specification 

 https://webmonetization.org/specification/

 Summary 

 Implement the Web Monetization spec. Web Monetization is a web 
 technology that enables website owners to receive micro payments from 
 users 
 as they interact with their content. It provides a way for content 
 creators 
 and website owners to be compensated for their work without relying solely 
 on ads or subscriptions. Notably, Web Monetization offers two unique 
 features—small payments and no user interaction—users are paying/tipping 
 for the content while they consume it. It extends the HTML  element 
 by introducing rel="monetization". When this element is incorporated into 
 a 
 web page, it signifies the website's support for web monetization. If a 
 user has their wallet set up for a particular website, their browser will 
 automatically start a web monetization session, enabling direct payments 
 from the user to the website.


 Blink component 

 Blink>Payments 
 

 Motivation 

 Web monetization offers a new revenue model for content creators and 
 website owners, allowing them to earn from their work while users consume 
 their content. It also facilitates voluntary user contributions, such as 
 tips, directly rewarding the creators for the value their content provides.

 Initial public proposal 

 None
 TAG review 

 None

 TAG review status 

 Pending

 Risks 

 Interoperability and Compatibility 

 None


 Gecko: No signal

 WebKit: No signal

 Web developers: a fraction of a percent of all web pages have already 
 been configured to use the feature in anticipation of web/browser support, 
 according to metrics 
 . 
 There used to be a different way to set up web monetization on a web site 
 by using HTML:meta tag, which achieved 0.03% adoption 
  on 
 the web. 

 Other signals:

 WebView application risks 

 Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
 that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?

 None


 Debuggability 

 None


 Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
 
 ? 

 No

 Flag name on chrome://flags 

 WebMonetization in runtime_enabled_features.json5.

 Finch feature name 

 None

 Non-finch justification 

 None

 Requires code in //chrome? 

 False

 Estimated milestones 

 M127 


 Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 

 https://chromestatus.com/feature/4917148755689472

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Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Web Monetization

[Rick Byers]

+1. I'm also supportive of prototyping this work. It's obviously a really
tricky space, and it's not at all clear yet what would have to be true for
us to ship a feature like this in Chrome. But supporting content creators
is so important to Chromium's goals of a thriving web that I think we
should encourage and support experimentation here. 0.03% of Chrome page
loads already having the web monetization tag (despite no mainstream
browser support) seems like a very positive sign to me, that's a huge
amount of web browsing.

Rick

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:55 AM Stephen Mcgruer 
wrote:

> Thanks Yoav! We have been working with Alex and Igalia on this experiment,
> but appreciate the tag anyway (cc @Rouslan Solomakhin
>  too)
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 04:47, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) 
> wrote:
>
>> +Stephen McGruer  - FYI
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:19 PM Alexander Surkov 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> asur...@igalia.com
>>>
>>> Explainer
>>>
>>> https://webmonetization.org/docs
>>>
>>> High Level Overview
>>>
>>> High Level Web Monetization Overview
>>> 
>>> Specification
>>>
>>> https://webmonetization.org/specification/
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> Implement the Web Monetization spec. Web Monetization is a web
>>> technology that enables website owners to receive micro payments from users
>>> as they interact with their content. It provides a way for content creators
>>> and website owners to be compensated for their work without relying solely
>>> on ads or subscriptions. Notably, Web Monetization offers two unique
>>> features—small payments and no user interaction—users are paying/tipping
>>> for the content while they consume it. It extends the HTML  element
>>> by introducing rel="monetization". When this element is incorporated into a
>>> web page, it signifies the website's support for web monetization. If a
>>> user has their wallet set up for a particular website, their browser will
>>> automatically start a web monetization session, enabling direct payments
>>> from the user to the website.
>>>
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>Payments
>>> 
>>>
>>> Motivation
>>>
>>> Web monetization offers a new revenue model for content creators and
>>> website owners, allowing them to earn from their work while users consume
>>> their content. It also facilitates voluntary user contributions, such as
>>> tips, directly rewarding the creators for the value their content provides.
>>>
>>> Initial public proposal
>>>
>>> None
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> TAG review status
>>>
>>> Pending
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Gecko: No signal
>>>
>>> WebKit: No signal
>>>
>>> Web developers: a fraction of a percent of all web pages have already
>>> been configured to use the feature in anticipation of web/browser support,
>>> according to metrics
>>> .
>>> There used to be a different way to set up web monetization on a web site
>>> by using HTML:meta tag, which achieved 0.03% adoption
>>>  on
>>> the web.
>>>
>>> Other signals:
>>>
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> 
>>> ?
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>>
>>> WebMonetization in runtime_enabled_features.json5.
>>>
>>> Finch feature name
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Non-finch justification
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>
>>> False
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> M127 
>>>
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4917148755689472
>>>
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>>> .
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Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Web Monetization

[Stephen Mcgruer]

Thanks Yoav! We have been working with Alex and Igalia on this experiment,
but appreciate the tag anyway (cc @Rouslan Solomakhin 
 too)

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 04:47, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) 
wrote:

> +Stephen McGruer  - FYI
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:19 PM Alexander Surkov 
> wrote:
>
>> Contact emails
>>
>> asur...@igalia.com
>>
>> Explainer
>>
>> https://webmonetization.org/docs
>>
>> High Level Overview
>>
>> High Level Web Monetization Overview
>> 
>> Specification
>>
>> https://webmonetization.org/specification/
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Implement the Web Monetization spec. Web Monetization is a web technology
>> that enables website owners to receive micro payments from users as they
>> interact with their content. It provides a way for content creators and
>> website owners to be compensated for their work without relying solely on
>> ads or subscriptions. Notably, Web Monetization offers two unique
>> features—small payments and no user interaction—users are paying/tipping
>> for the content while they consume it. It extends the HTML  element
>> by introducing rel="monetization". When this element is incorporated into a
>> web page, it signifies the website's support for web monetization. If a
>> user has their wallet set up for a particular website, their browser will
>> automatically start a web monetization session, enabling direct payments
>> from the user to the website.
>>
>>
>> Blink component
>>
>> Blink>Payments
>> 
>>
>> Motivation
>>
>> Web monetization offers a new revenue model for content creators and
>> website owners, allowing them to earn from their work while users consume
>> their content. It also facilitates voluntary user contributions, such as
>> tips, directly rewarding the creators for the value their content provides.
>>
>> Initial public proposal
>>
>> None
>> TAG review
>>
>> None
>>
>> TAG review status
>>
>> Pending
>>
>> Risks
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Gecko: No signal
>>
>> WebKit: No signal
>>
>> Web developers: a fraction of a percent of all web pages have already
>> been configured to use the feature in anticipation of web/browser support,
>> according to metrics
>> .
>> There used to be a different way to set up web monetization on a web site
>> by using HTML:meta tag, which achieved 0.03% adoption
>>  on
>> the web.
>>
>> Other signals:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> 
>> ?
>>
>> No
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>
>> WebMonetization in runtime_enabled_features.json5.
>>
>> Finch feature name
>>
>> None
>>
>> Non-finch justification
>>
>> None
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>
>> False
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>>
>> M127 
>>
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4917148755689472
>>
>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>> .
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Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Web Monetization

[Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)]

+Stephen McGruer  - FYI

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:19 PM Alexander Surkov  wrote:

> Contact emails
>
> asur...@igalia.com
>
> Explainer
>
> https://webmonetization.org/docs
>
> High Level Overview
>
> High Level Web Monetization Overview
> 
> Specification
>
> https://webmonetization.org/specification/
>
> Summary
>
> Implement the Web Monetization spec. Web Monetization is a web technology
> that enables website owners to receive micro payments from users as they
> interact with their content. It provides a way for content creators and
> website owners to be compensated for their work without relying solely on
> ads or subscriptions. Notably, Web Monetization offers two unique
> features—small payments and no user interaction—users are paying/tipping
> for the content while they consume it. It extends the HTML  element
> by introducing rel="monetization". When this element is incorporated into a
> web page, it signifies the website's support for web monetization. If a
> user has their wallet set up for a particular website, their browser will
> automatically start a web monetization session, enabling direct payments
> from the user to the website.
>
>
> Blink component
>
> Blink>Payments
> 
>
> Motivation
>
> Web monetization offers a new revenue model for content creators and
> website owners, allowing them to earn from their work while users consume
> their content. It also facilitates voluntary user contributions, such as
> tips, directly rewarding the creators for the value their content provides.
>
> Initial public proposal
>
> None
> TAG review
>
> None
>
> TAG review status
>
> Pending
>
> Risks
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
> None
>
>
> Gecko: No signal
>
> WebKit: No signal
>
> Web developers: a fraction of a percent of all web pages have already
> been configured to use the feature in anticipation of web/browser support,
> according to metrics
> .
> There used to be a different way to set up web monetization on a web site
> by using HTML:meta tag, which achieved 0.03% adoption
>  on
> the web.
>
> Other signals:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>
> None
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> None
>
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> 
> ?
>
> No
>
> Flag name on chrome://flags
>
> WebMonetization in runtime_enabled_features.json5.
>
> Finch feature name
>
> None
>
> Non-finch justification
>
> None
>
> Requires code in //chrome?
>
> False
>
> Estimated milestones
>
> M127 
>
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4917148755689472
>
> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
> .
>
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[blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Web Monetization

[Alexander Surkov]

   Contact emails

asur...@igalia.com


   Explainer

https://webmonetization.org/docs 


   High Level Overview

High Level Web Monetization Overview 




   Specification

https://webmonetization.org/specification/ 




   Summary

Implement the Web Monetization spec. Web Monetization is a web 
technology that enables website owners to receive micro payments from 
users as they interact with their content. It provides a way for content 
creators and website owners to be compensated for their work without 
relying solely on ads or subscriptions. Notably, Web Monetization offers 
two unique features—small payments and no user interaction—users are 
paying/tipping for the content while they consume it. It extends the 
HTML  element by introducing rel="monetization". When this element 
is incorporated into a web page, it signifies the website's support for 
web monetization. If a user has their wallet set up for a particular 
website, their browser will automatically start a web monetization 
session, enabling direct payments from the user to the website.




   Blink component

Blink>Payments 




   Motivation

Web monetization offers a new revenue model for content creators and 
website owners, allowing them to earn from their work while users 
consume their content. It also facilitates voluntary user contributions, 
such as tips, directly rewarding the creators for the value their 
content provides.



   Initial public proposal

None


   TAG review

None


   TAG review status

Pending


   Risks



   Interoperability and Compatibility

None



Gecko: No signal


WebKit: No signal


Web developers: a fraction of a percent of all web pages have already 
been configured to use the feature in anticipation of web/browser 
support, according to metrics 
. 
There used to be a different way to set up web monetization on a web 
site by using HTML:meta tag, which achieved 0.03% adoption 
on 
the web.



Other signals:


   WebView application risks

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?


None



   Debuggability

None



   Is this feature fully tested byweb-platform-tests
   
?

No


   Flag name on chrome://flags

WebMonetization in runtime_enabled_features.json5.


   Finch feature name

None


   Non-finch justification

None


   Requires code in //chrome?

False


   Estimated milestones

M127 



   Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

https://chromestatus.com/feature/4917148755689472 




This intent message was generated byChrome Platform Status 
.



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