RE: redhat itself
Hi, I use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, (RHEL), all the time at work. We manage servers running RHEL, a lot of them Dell Poweredge rack mounts or Dell blades. When new hardware comes in, I try to get them to set up things so that the serial over LAN settings in the BIOS are enabled and, with a couple of tweaks to the grub.conf file, I can get the RHEL console redirected and then I ssh to the ILO/IDRAC card where I then have full console access so that I can solve boot up issues or access the server when all its network interfaces are dead. It is very rare these days that I actually do an OS installation as we have kickstart files which run OS installs these days so they come up as a standard build for a customer. In this environment, it doesn't matter a bit really what flavour of Linux is used. It isn't Linux that is accessible or not. If you have ssh access to the console and then, once the OS is up and running, via any network connection, you can do everything whatever the Linux flavour. Now this is fine for the good old physical server world. My big problem is that so much is going virtual now. We use VMWare for virtualisation and I just cannot access the console of a VMWare VM running RHEL because these seem only to be accessible through horrible Java GUI's which are only seen through vCenter. To get to vCenter across a network, I would need to RDP from a terminal server which is impossible. Even if I could do this, I couldn't use the Java GUI as that is hopeless with most screen readers I know. Before anyone suggests it, there is No such thing as direct access to vCenter with a command line interface in the corporate world. I've tried for it. You have my employer's corporate network policies, the customer's own access policies and everything else blocking this. I have asked before on here if anyone has solutions in this area and I only met with sympathy as several other people seem to have hit the same problem but not yet found a solution. I just hope physical servers stay around a bit longer. Cheers, Phil. -Original Message- From: blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of John G Heim Sent: 10 August 2016 16:48 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: redhat itself Surely there must be somebody building kernels with those modules so that you can install by adding their yum repository to your system. If not, it would mean that a blind RH systems admin couldn't do his work at the console. If remote access is broken he'd be in serious trouble. Most systems admins don't have a choice as to what flavor of linux they use in their job. Here at the University of Wisconsin, the IT department used to run Red Hat. The campus had a site license. The Math Department, where I work, uses debian and ubuntu. But if I worked in another department, I'd probably be stuck with RH. I have been building kernels for debian and ubuntu that have a hack do serial synths work. I set up a apt repository at www.iavit.org so other people can use them too. I don't know anything about Red Hat but surely there must be the equivalent of a ppa. On 08/10/2016 09:10 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, > > Well, I've moved from Fedora to Arch on any machine where I need > Speakup. The reason is that rpmfusion has not provided kernel staging > modules since kernel 4.0.4. > > So, I had the choice of constantly building my own, or switching > distros. I chose the latter. > > I am still running Fedora on my data center server, but I don't use > Speakup on that machine, of course. > > Janina > > Willem van der Walt writes: >> Redhat these days is mostly used on servers as one buys support for >> that, but it is accessible. >> I ran Redhat years ago, but these days, I think, Janina is still >> running it or Fedora without problems. >> HTH, Willem >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Mark Peveto wrote: >> >>> Hmm, I noticed this is hosted on redhat.com. Does redhat have an accessible distro? >>> >>> Everything happens after coffee! >>> >>> Mark Peveto >>> Registered Linux user number 600552 >>> Sent from sonar using alpine 2.20.14 >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >>> >> -- >> >> This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, >> e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) >> standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- -- John G. Heim; jh...@math.wisc.edu; sip://jh...@sip.linphone.org ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blin
Re: redhat itself
Surely there must be somebody building kernels with those modules so that you can install by adding their yum repository to your system. If not, it would mean that a blind RH systems admin couldn't do his work at the console. If remote access is broken he'd be in serious trouble. Most systems admins don't have a choice as to what flavor of linux they use in their job. Here at the University of Wisconsin, the IT department used to run Red Hat. The campus had a site license. The Math Department, where I work, uses debian and ubuntu. But if I worked in another department, I'd probably be stuck with RH. I have been building kernels for debian and ubuntu that have a hack do serial synths work. I set up a apt repository at www.iavit.org so other people can use them too. I don't know anything about Red Hat but surely there must be the equivalent of a ppa. On 08/10/2016 09:10 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: Hi, Well, I've moved from Fedora to Arch on any machine where I need Speakup. The reason is that rpmfusion has not provided kernel staging modules since kernel 4.0.4. So, I had the choice of constantly building my own, or switching distros. I chose the latter. I am still running Fedora on my data center server, but I don't use Speakup on that machine, of course. Janina Willem van der Walt writes: Redhat these days is mostly used on servers as one buys support for that, but it is accessible. I ran Redhat years ago, but these days, I think, Janina is still running it or Fedora without problems. HTH, Willem On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Mark Peveto wrote: Hmm, I noticed this is hosted on redhat.com. Does redhat have an accessible distro? Everything happens after coffee! Mark Peveto Registered Linux user number 600552 Sent from sonar using alpine 2.20.14 ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- -- John G. Heim; jh...@math.wisc.edu; sip://jh...@sip.linphone.org ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: redhat itself
Hi, Well, I've moved from Fedora to Arch on any machine where I need Speakup. The reason is that rpmfusion has not provided kernel staging modules since kernel 4.0.4. So, I had the choice of constantly building my own, or switching distros. I chose the latter. I am still running Fedora on my data center server, but I don't use Speakup on that machine, of course. Janina Willem van der Walt writes: > Redhat these days is mostly used on servers as one buys support for that, > but it is accessible. > I ran Redhat years ago, but these days, I think, Janina is still running it > or Fedora without problems. > HTH, Willem > > > On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Mark Peveto wrote: > > > Hmm, I noticed this is hosted on redhat.com. Does redhat have an > > accessible distro? > > > > Everything happens after coffee! > > > > Mark Peveto > > Registered Linux user number 600552 > > Sent from sonar using alpine 2.20.14 > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full > disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: redhat itself
Janina gave up on Fedora and is now using archlinux and posted to that effect earlier on this list. On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:35:01 From: Willem van der Walt Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: redhat itself Redhat these days is mostly used on servers as one buys support for that, but it is accessible. I ran Redhat years ago, but these days, I think, Janina is still running it or Fedora without problems. HTH, Willem On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Mark Peveto wrote: Hmm, I noticed this is hosted on redhat.com. Does redhat have an accessible distro? Everything happens after coffee! Mark Peveto Registered Linux user number 600552 Sent from sonar using alpine 2.20.14 ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
