Re: VirtualBox
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 08:11:21AM AEST, Luke Yelavich wrote: > No, that is not correct. Windows can indeed be run in a KVM based virtual > machine. You can even see how well various versions of Windows work here. > http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status. You can find various > Windows drivers for KVM guests here. > http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers. After some further digging, you will need the drivers found here for Windows 10 64-bit, since they will need to be signed. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Windows_Virtio_Drivers Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: VirtualBox
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:14:01AM AEST, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, Luke: > > Just to clarify, this approach would support other distributions of > Linux but not totaly foreign OS like Windows 10. Is that correct? No, that is not correct. Windows can indeed be run in a KVM based virtual machine. You can even see how well various versions of Windows work here. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status. You can find various Windows drivers for KVM guests here. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: VirtualBox
The dialog boxes you interact with to do things like start/stop virtual machines in virtualbox are somewhat accessible with orca. I have never tried to create a virtual machine via the virtualbox gui though. I always use bash scripts. Here are links to 2 of my scripts. Keep in mind that they were both written for my own use so they are not the most user friendly scripts in the world. First, this script creates a virtual machine with a 32 Gb disk, 2Gb of ram, and one cpu. It then boots from a grml iso. http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/pub/grml Second, this script creates a vm with a 96Gb disk, 2Gb ram, and 1 cpu. It then bootsfrom a Win7 installation iso and installs Win7 via an answer file on a virtual floppy. wget http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/pub/win7-64 I'm not sure how helpful that second script will be without the answer file. There are plenty of instructions out there for creating an answer file for Win7 but it's a lot of work. I'd share my answer file but it has passwords in it. They're encrypted but I don't think I can put them out there anyway. 6 10:24 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: Hi, Fernando: I actually know this one! If you rely on screen readers you need to rely on VirtualBox from the command line, or from a scripted environment. The graphical interface isn't accessible to Orca. I believe it's kde, and we still haven't really broken through to accessibility on kde. Janina Fernando Botelho writes: Thanks anyway Janina, Back in the day, I liked the fact that VirtualBox allowed one to do a lot of things via the command line. I imagine all of that remains available. But I will let more experienced current users comment. Best, Fernando -- -- John G. Heim; jh...@math.wisc.edu; sip://jh...@sip.linphone.org ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: VirtualBox
Hi, Fernando: I actually know this one! If you rely on screen readers you need to rely on VirtualBox from the command line, or from a scripted environment. The graphical interface isn't accessible to Orca. I believe it's kde, and we still haven't really broken through to accessibility on kde. Janina Fernando Botelho writes: > Thanks anyway Janina, > > Back in the day, I liked the fact that VirtualBox allowed one to do a lot of > things via the command line. I imagine all of that remains available. But I > will let more experienced current users comment. > > Best, > > Fernando -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linphone newby questions
Hi, Willem: I will be delighted to help you as best I can, but you should be aware that I will be traveling next week and am unlikely to be very available as this is a business trip. I'll be back to my usual home schedule on the 25th. I look forward to chatting with you linphone to linphone! Janina Willem van der Walt writes: > Hi Janina, > Thanks for the reply. > I will definitely make use of the offer to test the call once I have gotten > things sorted out on my side. > At work, we have a quite elaborate firewall setup, which I think is > confusing linphonec. > At home, I currently have a wifi range extender which is acting up. > I also tried the linphone on Android, but struggled with that. There I got > further with a client called csipsimple. > > I will email you once I have all my ducks in a row. > Kind regards, Willem > > > On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Hi, Willem: > > > > Willem van der Walt writes: > > > Good day, > > > Now that I feel the Internet speed here in South Africa is such that one > > > can > > > start looking at voip, I have installed linphone. > > > > That's a good choice. > > > > > I created an account at linphone.org which was confirmed by email. > > > > That will help. For some reason I've never figured out, SIP works better > > if you're registered somewhere. So, just go ahead an register whenever > > you launch this SIP client. > > > > > I do not seem to have the sipomatic program for testing my setup, and a > > > quick google search give e the idea that it is no longer part of linphone. > > > So, here are a few, some of them dumm, questions. > > > 1. How can I verify my setup is correctly configured without sipomatic? > > > > > > I've never used that app, and never even heard of it, actually. > > Meanwhile, I've used linphone for years and years. > > > > > 2. I saw on the linphone.org site that there are over 30 users, but > > > is > > > there a way to look for people in that list? > > > > Not really. > > > > > I.E. If I want to know if any one of you is on linphone, is the only way > > > for > > > me to find that out to email you first? > > > > Well, you'll see my SIP address in my signature block. Please feel free > > to call me and test your setup out. > > > > PS: In case you missed it, you may prefer using the console SIP client > > with Speakup (or brltty) instead of the rather clumsy graphical client > > with Orca. I say the graphical client is clumsy because you have to > > navigate around a 12-key keypad to actuate dtmf. That's much easier in > > the console, for instance: > > > > To launch the console app: > > linphonec > > > > To see the various commands: > > help > > > > Example of a help command you should look at before calling: > > help soundcard > > > > Hopefully, you're going to use something like a USB headset, rather than > > trying to rely on your case microphone and speakers. The above command > > will show you how to set that. > > > > Configuration file is at: > > $HOME/.linphonerc > > > > hth > > > > Janina > > > > > TIA, Willem > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, > > > e-mail > > > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The > > > full > > > disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > ___ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full > disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) C
Re: VirtualBox
Thanks anyway Janina, Back in the day, I liked the fact that VirtualBox allowed one to do a lot of things via the command line. I imagine all of that remains available. But I will let more experienced current users comment. Best, Fernando ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: VirtualBox
Hi, Luke: Just to clarify, this approach would support other distributions of Linux but not totaly foreign OS like Windows 10. Is that correct? Janina Luke Yelavich writes: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 02:57:17AM AEST, Fernando Botelho wrote: > > Janina, I swear I am not stocking you across email lists. :) > > > > I just find your posts useful. > > > > I liked the idea of using VirtualBox. For example, one can have a VM > > specifically for banking, which should prevent many security problems. it > > could even be setup to start from a snapshot, so anything done in one > > session is forgotten, next time the VM is activated. > > Have you tried using Linux's own Qemu/KVM, along with libvirt, and the virsh > command-line tool or the GUI virt-manager, or even GNOME's own boxes > application? > > Luke > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: VirtualBox
Hi, Fernando: Thank you for the very kind review of my posts. Regretably, I can't live up to that standard this time around, because I'm very much a VirtualBox newbie myself, and unlikely to seriously roll up my sleeves for a couple more months with the product. To date my experience with vms has been some text consoles running another release of Linux in a kvm. On the gui side it's all been VMware on a Mac. I'm sufficiently disappointed with my Mac experience to want to move on from that environment. I do need to host a foreign OS, namely Windows 10, and VirtualBox seems the correct way to go about that on Linux when one is constrained by accessibility concerns. However, my experience to date with VirtualBox is very limited. I'm very much the student in this particular computer lab. So, I'm also eager to see what others say on the topic here. Janina Fernando Botelho writes: > Janina, I swear I am not stocking you across email lists. :) > > I just find your posts useful. > > I liked the idea of using VirtualBox. For example, one can have a VM > specifically for banking, which should prevent many security problems. it > could even be setup to start from a snapshot, so anything done in one > session is forgotten, next time the VM is activated. > > I do have a simple question: > > When I last tried to get my non-technical spouse to use VirtualBox, > something that was very annoying to her, was the keyboard capture shortcuts. > > Now, if I have two consoles, one with command line or even Mate, and the > second with VirtualBox running Mate and Firefox, can I Control+Alt into the > VirtualBox one and start using it normally? Or will there be a process of > keyboard capture before one can use it? > > Thanks, > > Fernando > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
