Re: old artic transport, some ideas.

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion

Hi mark,
I am playing catch up.  I just noted our  post with your email address, 
sending the files along.

Indeed, the  protection from one did slow down the train, but only slightly.
Kare


On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:


Mark Peveto here,
Karen, I don't think he can, unless he already has your private email address.  
The list doesn't show our addresses anymore, to keep those spammers
away.
Everything now shows it comes from the blinux list.


Mark Peveto
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On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:


hi Luke,
write me privately and I will send  you the file.
Karen


On Fri, 26 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:


On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:39:24PM AEST, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:

Do you mean in Linux?
The documentation is that which came with the unit when sold, if that
makes
sense.


I mean the protocol that software needs to use to talk to the hardware over
the serial interface.


Would you like a copy as well?


If you can send it electronically, sure. If you'd prefer, I can email you
off
list about this.

Luke

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Re: old artic transport, some ideas.

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion

hi Luke,
write me privately and I will send  you the file.
Karen


On Fri, 26 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:


On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:39:24PM AEST, Linux for blind general discussion 
wrote:

Do you mean in Linux?
The documentation is that which came with the unit when sold, if that makes
sense.


I mean the protocol that software needs to use to talk to the hardware over
the serial interface.


Would you like a copy as well?


If you can send it electronically, sure. If you'd prefer, I can email you off
list about this.

Luke

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Re: living in the console.

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion

Out of curiosity, what is the syntax for ebrowse?
We have it here at shellworld...I think, and I wish to test something.
Karen


On Fri, 26 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:


Edbrowse may help for web browsing alonggg with surfraw-heavy.

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On May 25, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
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Tim here

Mark Peveto wrote
Over the last couple days or so, I've considered becoming a totally
command line linux user.

I'm mostly there. Web browsing is the big hurdle for much of my
day-to-day use. Lynx/links/elinks work for many things, but some
sites just need a fully modern-standards-supporting browser.

How would I print to my printer for example,

It depends on what you want to print, but it usually involves piping
things to the "lp" ("line printer") program. It can be configured to
use CUPS on the back end (and may already be configured out of the
box for you).

Getting fancier output would involve rendering some sort of markup.
There are tools to render HTML, LaTeX, PDFs, and even Word/LibreOffice
docs from the command-line to the printer.

I don't know what you want to print, but I suspect it can be done in
most cases.

play an entire album from my music collection.

It depends on your tastes, but there are literally dozens of music
players. Some, such as mpg123/mpg312/aplay/ogg123 allow you to
specify just the files you want on the command line and it will play
them. Others, like mplayer are similar but give you a little more
control over playback.

There's also mpd/mpc which is the Music Player Daemon/Client that
runs in the background and doesn't really have a GUI. The mpd
program runs in the background and the mpc program acts like a
remote-control, letting you create/edit playlists, control playback,
etc. I like the remote-control aspect as I can map them to
particular keys on my keyboard or aliases in the shell and have quick
access to common commands with my media-keys.

Personally, I use "cmus" which has a text-mode GUI but also has a
remote-control interface like mpd/mpc. I start up tmux and have a
pane for my alsamixer and cmus which lets me flip between them pretty
readily. It allows me to make play-lists, search my collection,
shuffle, etc, much like you'd be familiar with in a graphical player.


How, also, would I create documents in something beyond text
format?

usually it's done with a markup that suits your tastes. I personally
have been writing HTML by hand since college in the mid 90s so that's
what I reach for. But other people like TeX/LaTeX (it does produce
some beautiful output and also has external library support for things
like music markup letting you write scores) while other people like
some of the more light-weight markup languages like Markdown or RST
or the like.

I'd kick the tires on a few and see what feels natural to you.
Fortunately, there's a tool called "pandoc" that lets you convert
between a large number of input/output formats so you can write in
Markdown and convert to PDF, or write in HTML and convert to MS-Word
format, or write in LaTeX and convert to ePub with minimal loss. And
it outputs any of them in plain-text (though you may lose some
information in the process since plain-text doesn't support many
features as you've acknowledged)

How does one ditch the guy, and still enjoy all linux has to offer
in the console?

One program at a time (grins). So much like each of the items above,
it's a matter of asking "I currently do XYZ in the GUI but would like
to do XYZ in the console" for whatever XYZ is your next adventure.

I maintain a page listing a number of common command-line tools:

http://tim.thechases.com/posts/cli/software-for-a-command-line-world/

that can point you in the direction of various applications to try
out. Some might drive you crazy while others might fit your brain
just right. They should all be free and are likely in most software
repos, so it doesn't cost you anything except a little time to try
each one out.

I'm willing to learn how to do this, but who ever decides to help
me is gonna hafta be patient.

The folks on this list are a pretty friendly & patient bunch, so
we'll be glad to help where we can.

-tim




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Re: debain: serail to USB converter

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Mark Peveto here,
Well friend, that wasn't real helpful.  The page kept refreshing every time I 
tried to read it so I couldn't get anywhere.  If someone can just get me a
straight set of instructions, that'd be helpful.  I've already been on several 
internet pages about the subject, and end up running into some command
they suggest not working, or a file can't be found, etc.  Really, I gotta get 
this done, and i'm hitting more brick walls than i need at this point.  I
spent several hours working on this yesterday afternoon, so if you're hearing 
frustration, that's why.
Thanks folks.




Mark Peveto
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On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> well,
> I don't have the info handy, but here is a page where they talk about finding 
> and setting up new serial ports.
>
> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-linux-serial-ports-with-setserial/
>
> -eric
>
> On May 30, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Mark Peveto here.  The serial to usb connector does show in lsmod.  But I 
> > wasn't told how to configure the com port for it.
> > I wanna get this artic running on this machine.
> > Appreciate the help.
> >
> >
> > Mark Peveto
> > Registered Linux user number 600552
> > Everything happens after coffee!
> >
> > On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> well,
> >> you might have to plug it in and then open a console and type lsmod at the 
> >> prompt. If it's a known device, it should show up in there. then all you 
> >> would need to do is configure a com port.
> >>
> >> btw, as a comparison, use the lsmod command before you plug in and then 
> >> check after. if it is recognized, you would see an additional module or 2 
> >> running.
> >>
> >> -eric
> >>
> >> On May 29, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mark Peveto here.
> >>> Since only one machine i hae here has a serial port, I got a couple 
> >>> serial to usb converters.  Trick is, how do I get debian to recognize it? 
> >>>  I was
> >>> gonna hook the artic up to one of my other machines.
> >>>
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Re: debain: serail to USB converter

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
well,
I don't have the info handy, but here is a page where they talk about finding 
and setting up new serial ports.

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-linux-serial-ports-with-setserial/

-eric

On May 30, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Hi all,
> Mark Peveto here.  The serial to usb connector does show in lsmod.  But I 
> wasn't told how to configure the com port for it.
> I wanna get this artic running on this machine.
> Appreciate the help.
> 
> 
> Mark Peveto
> Registered Linux user number 600552
> Everything happens after coffee!
> 
> On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
>> well,
>> you might have to plug it in and then open a console and type lsmod at the 
>> prompt. If it's a known device, it should show up in there. then all you 
>> would need to do is configure a com port.
>> 
>> btw, as a comparison, use the lsmod command before you plug in and then 
>> check after. if it is recognized, you would see an additional module or 2 
>> running.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On May 29, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> 
>>> Mark Peveto here.
>>> Since only one machine i hae here has a serial port, I got a couple serial 
>>> to usb converters.  Trick is, how do I get debian to recognize it?  I was
>>> gonna hook the artic up to one of my other machines.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Registered Linux user number 600552
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Re: debain: serail to USB converter

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Hi all,
Mark Peveto here.  The serial to usb connector does show in lsmod.  But I 
wasn't told how to configure the com port for it.
I wanna get this artic running on this machine.
Appreciate the help.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Tue, 30 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> well,
> you might have to plug it in and then open a console and type lsmod at the 
> prompt. If it's a known device, it should show up in there. then all you 
> would need to do is configure a com port.
>
> btw, as a comparison, use the lsmod command before you plug in and then check 
> after. if it is recognized, you would see an additional module or 2 running.
>
> -eric
>
> On May 29, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Mark Peveto here.
> > Since only one machine i hae here has a serial port, I got a couple serial 
> > to usb converters.  Trick is, how do I get debian to recognize it?  I was
> > gonna hook the artic up to one of my other machines.
> >
> >
> > Mark Peveto
> > Registered Linux user number 600552
> > Everything happens after coffee!
> >
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Re: debain: serail to USB converter

2017-05-30 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
well,
you might have to plug it in and then open a console and type lsmod at the 
prompt. If it's a known device, it should show up in there. then all you would 
need to do is configure a com port.

btw, as a comparison, use the lsmod command before you plug in and then check 
after. if it is recognized, you would see an additional module or 2 running.

-eric

On May 29, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Mark Peveto here.
> Since only one machine i hae here has a serial port, I got a couple serial to 
> usb converters.  Trick is, how do I get debian to recognize it?  I was
> gonna hook the artic up to one of my other machines.
> 
> 
> Mark Peveto
> Registered Linux user number 600552
> Everything happens after coffee!
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