Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Fernando Botelho]

On 10/08/2016 02:01 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Voice-lock gives you a different voice when the font changes, such as 
when you're reading a comment in your code or you come across a link 
in your browser.


The default is a UK English voice. I was able to change this in the 
past, but when I tried to change it recently the same steps didn't 
work. It's not that big a deal for me, so I haven't put the time into 
it to figure it out.


I understand. Just one question:  I like to receive plain text email, 
just so I know what url links are really pointing to. But 90% of the 
time I just read the text and would rather ignore the urls. Does 
Emacspeak allow one to simply turn-off the reading of urls?  it is 
annoying to have to listen to long urls when one is not interested in it 
and I never understood why more conventional screen readers do not have 
the ability to silence that out.


Fernando

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Christopher Chaltain]

Voice-lock gives you a different voice when the font changes, such as 
when you're reading a comment in your code or you come across a link in 
your browser.


The default is a UK English voice. I was able to change this in the 
past, but when I tried to change it recently the same steps didn't work. 
It's not that big a deal for me, so I haven't put the time into it to 
figure it out.


On 08/10/16 11:52, Fernando Botelho wrote:



On 10/08/2016 12:11 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

For now, eSpeak cannot use the voice-lock features of Emacspeak.
That's my
main problem with it's maintenance now, and that I can't change the voice
to the En-us language.



This sounds bad. What is voice-lock used for?

Also, if you cannot use US English, what do you use?  Somehow I thought
US English would be the default.

Fernando

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Devin Prater]

For now, eSpeak cannot use the voice-lock features of Emacspeak. That's my
main problem with it's maintenance now, and that I can't change the voice
to the En-us language.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Fernando Botelho 
wrote:

> Thanks Chris for these details. This is very helpful.
>
> Fernando
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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Jude DaShiell]

I got a typescript file of about 340 lines before I clean it up and it 
appears py.elc and emacspeak no longer like each other.  This is 
emacspeak-git I'm building on talingarchlinux for any interested 
parties.  I do not yet know if warnings got thrown before this error but 
the english message with this error is symbols variable is void.  Now I 
need toclean this up and search it with grep before doing anything else.


On Wed, 5 Oct 2016, Sam Hartman wrote:


Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:47:37
From: Sam Hartman <hartm...@mit.edu>
Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
To: Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org>
Cc: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak


"Fernando" == Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org> writes:


   >> The emacspeak espeak support is depressingly fiddly to get
   >> working, but it is well worth doing.

   Fernando> I keep hearing this, so I am expecting it will indeed be a
   Fernando> huge pain. Once it works though, I hope it is not
   Fernando> something that breaks all the time. Also, I hope it gives
   Fernando> equivalent performance to whatever people get using eFlite
   Fernando> or Festival.

I need to mess with it every couple of years or once for every new
machine.
Performance is fine.

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Chris Brannon]

Fernando Botelho  writes:

> Would you or anyone you know be willing to help me put together a
> script that installs/configures Emacspeak and eSpeak on a Talking ARCH
> environment?

You can already build emacspeak from the AUR.  See:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/emacspeak
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/emacspeak-git (builds direct from a
git checkout).
You'll also need to build the tclx package from the AUR.  espeak will be
pulled in automatically from the official package repos when you install
the emacspeak package that you built.
All you really need to do to configure it is set the DTK_PROGRAM
environment variable.
export DTK_PROGRAM=espeak
in .bash_profile or wherever.
Want to set it system-wide?  Make a file /etc/profile.d/emacspeak.sh
containing that setting.
So in other words, the scripts to build an emacspeak package along with
the espeak server have already been written for Arch.

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Sam Hartman]

> "Fernando" == Fernando Botelho  writes:

>> The emacspeak espeak support is depressingly fiddly to get
>> working, but it is well worth doing.

Fernando> I keep hearing this, so I am expecting it will indeed be a
Fernando> huge pain. Once it works though, I hope it is not
Fernando> something that breaks all the time. Also, I hope it gives
Fernando> equivalent performance to whatever people get using eFlite
Fernando> or Festival.

I need to mess with it every couple of years or once for every new
machine.
Performance is fine.

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Jude DaShiell]

The last time I built emacspeak with eflite and had it working the 
prerequisites turned out to be flite and speech-tools packages.  That 
may have changed by now since I did that I think 4 years ago.


On Wed, 5 Oct 2016, Devin Prater wrote:


Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:11:38
From: Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Cc: Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org>
Subject: Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

Espeak support is "unmaintained", so it could break with any new release of 
eSpeak that may come along. There is an Eflite server, if you can get it working, that 
links flite with Emacspeak.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:07 PM, Sam Hartman <hartm...@mit.edu> wrote:


"Fernando" == Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org> writes:


   Fernando> Does anybody think using eSpeak instead of Festival is a
   Fernando> bad idea?

The emacspeak espeak support is depressingly fiddly to get working, but
it is well worth doing.

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Fernando Botelho]

On 10/05/2016 09:57 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
getting emacspeak-git to build correctly probably will be your first 
obstacle.  Expect at least one error due to a missing dependency.  I 
got another error below that I'll research a little later today.


Ok. I guess I will also join the Emacspeak list now, just to make sure I 
do not reinvent the wheel.


F

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Jude DaShiell]

getting emacspeak-git to build correctly probably will be your first 
obstacle.  Expect at least one error due to a missing dependency.  I got 
another error below that I'll research a little later today.


On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Sam Hartman wrote:


Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 21:07:35
From: Sam Hartman <hartm...@mit.edu>
Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
To: Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org>
Cc: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak


"Fernando" == Fernando Botelho <fernando.bote...@f123.org> writes:


   Fernando> Does anybody think using eSpeak instead of Festival is a
   Fernando> bad idea?

The emacspeak espeak support is depressingly fiddly to get working, but
it is well worth doing.

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Re: Emacspeak and eSpeak

[Fernando Botelho]

On 10/05/2016 09:11 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Espeak support is "unmaintained", so it could break with any new release of 
eSpeak that may come along. There is an Eflite server, if you can get it working, that 
links flite with Emacspeak.

Oh, I think it would be easier for me to find funding to fix the 
occasional problem with Emacspeak and eSpeak than it would be to find 
support to create additional languages on Flite.


Thanks for the suggestion though. I will check it out, maybe this Flite 
thing has multiple languages. I just do not know enough about it.


Fernando


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