Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
First, it's archive.org. If you went to the plural form, no wonder why you 
didn't find anything.


On 4/18/2017 7:55 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:

Any tips for getting around archives.org?  Somebody recommended it to me a
few weeks ago, so I gave it a quick shot.  I was looking for old-time radio
stuff.  I failed to find anything, for all the crawling around I did.  I'll
therefore be grateful for any pointers on using it.



http://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

It's much worse to navigate than before. They redesigned it and made it much 
less accessible. I can't really give you any tips. If you're using Firefox, 
press "h" a few times to get past the first few headings. When you get to 
the checkboxes, it's quicker to navigate by link. If you find an item you 
want, go to the page for that item and go to "show all" to get a normal 
Apache directory listing. At least that way you can easily see file sizes 
with normal download links.


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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
You're welcome. It's actually archive.org. The plural form is a different 
site. I've found that if in doubt, try IA first. Even if you don't find what 
you want, you're bound to find something interesting. I hadn't actually 
searched for fanfiction in years. It's nice having old archives. There is a 
way to browse the huge zip files and get only the items you want, but the 
syntax is escaping me at the moment. You never know what you'll find. The 
problem I have is the stories are only numbers, so without browsing each 
file, I have no idea what they're about. I'm referring to the downloads, not 
the fanfiction.net site itself. Sorry it took so long to find and answer 
your post.


On 4/18/2017 6:29 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Tony,
I am a firm believer in synchronicity.
What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about
archives.org.  Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides, either by
accident or intention to delete all their fanfiction.net  work.  I recently
found an hp  story by such a writer, wondered about their other creations,
and thoughth wonder if archives.org has anything?
That was last night,  I check mail this morning to find your post.
So...
*hugs*
Thanks!
Kare


On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Tony Baechler wrote:


Again, as usual, sorry for the lateness, but search for fanfiction on
archive.org. Archive Team uploaded a huge dump of the fanfiction.net site,
perfect for offline reading, assuming it's still there. Be warned that
it's very huge! Don't download on a slow connection or with limited disk
space. I'm not sure if new stuff is added and I don't remember the upload
date offhand, so probably a few years old by now, but still a huge amount
of reading material. It's a full or nearly complete site dump, so should
be navigable with any browser.

On 3/22/2017 6:00 PM, Tim Chase wrote:

 (yes, both your original post and your nudge came through)

 Am I missing something in particular?  I visited the site in
 Lynx-the-cat and was able to get to a number of the fanfic works
 without any issue.  Just to sample, I went in by Movie and sampled
 some of the X-Men works, and went in by TV Show and sampled some of
 the M*A*S*H works.  They all came back as HTML.

 If you're looking for a scraper, the classic "wget" tool should
 provide the ability to scrape a subset of the site.  You might then
 have to do some post-cleanup if you don't want all the site-related
 periphery.

 -tim

 On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>  there is a site  called fan fiction.
>  www.fanfiction.net
>  A very long time ago it was possible to download items there, but
>  now one must use a third party application.
>  I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something that
>  might be a part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is what I
>  have both at shellworld and via dreamhost that can get the works
>  converting them into well anything?
>  via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I promise this is my last post on this subject. After much time and effort, 
I found the scripts. They create the .warc format by default using wget, but 
the scripts can easily be modified. That's left as an exercise for someone 
else. Here is the Archive Team link. The scripts are on github and can be 
git cloned. The total size as of 2012 is about 830 GB, but that probably 
includes images. It's possible to get all stories by a particular user. I 
have not much interest myself except as a curiosity. It looks like there is 
a script to get a single story. Again, someone else can do the git clone and 
modify the scripts as they wish.


http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FanFiction.Net

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
> I am a firm believer in synchronicity.
> What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about
> archives.org.  Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides, either by
> accident or intention to delete all their fanfiction.net  work.  I recently
> found an hp  story by such a writer, wondered about their other creations,
> and thoughth wonder if archives.org has anything?
> That was last night,  I check mail this morning to find your post.

If you happen to use the Chromium or Google Chrome browsers, there's
an extension you might try that lets you search your choice of six or
seven different web archives. I use it every day.


Best regards,

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm afraid their navigation could use work, so I usually do google
searches and add "site:archive.org" to my query.

-tim

On April 18, 2017, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Any tips for getting around archives.org?  Somebody recommended it
> to me a few weeks ago, so I gave it a quick shot.  I was looking
> for old-time radio stuff.  I failed to find anything, for all the
> crawling around I did.  I'll therefore be grateful for any pointers
> on using it.
> 
> Al
> 
> On 4/18/2017 9:29 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Tony,
> > I am a firm believer in synchronicity.
> > What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about
> > archives.org.  Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides,
> > either by accident or intention to delete all their
> > fanfiction.net  work.  I recently found an hp  story by such a
> > writer, wondered about their other creations, and
> > thoughth wonder if archives.org has anything? That was
> > last night,  I check mail this morning to find your post. So...
> > *hugs*
> > Thanks!
> > Kare
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Tony Baechler wrote:
> >
> >> Again, as usual, sorry for the lateness, but search for
> >> fanfiction on archive.org. Archive Team uploaded a huge dump of
> >> the fanfiction.net site, perfect for offline reading, assuming
> >> it's still there. Be warned that it's very huge! Don't download
> >> on a slow connection or with limited disk space. I'm not sure if
> >> new stuff is added and I don't remember the upload date offhand,
> >> so probably a few years old by now, but still a huge amount of
> >> reading material. It's a full or nearly complete site dump, so
> >> should be navigable with any browser.
> >>
> >> On 3/22/2017 6:00 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
> >>>  (yes, both your original post and your nudge came through)
> >>>
> >>>  Am I missing something in particular?  I visited the site in
> >>>  Lynx-the-cat and was able to get to a number of the fanfic
> >>> works without any issue.  Just to sample, I went in by Movie
> >>> and sampled some of the X-Men works, and went in by TV Show and
> >>> sampled some of the M*A*S*H works.  They all came back as HTML.
> >>>
> >>>  If you're looking for a scraper, the classic "wget" tool should
> >>>  provide the ability to scrape a subset of the site.  You might
> >>> then have to do some post-cleanup if you don't want all the
> >>> site-related periphery.
> >>>
> >>>  -tim
> >>>
> >>>  On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>> >  there is a site  called fan fiction.
> >>> >  www.fanfiction.net
> >>> >  A very long time ago it was possible to download items
> >>> > there, but now one must use a third party application.
> >>> >  I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something
> >>> > that might be a part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is
> >>> > what I have both at shellworld and via dreamhost that can get
> >>> > the works converting them into well anything?
> >>> >  via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.
> >>>
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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Chime Hart

Actually Karen, unless I missed something, you want "wget" not "uget"
Now an inquiree for Tim? You mentioned useing wget as a screen scraper? Would 
that be the best tool for simulating a printer friendly page, to get rid of any 
toolbars-and-links, to just endup with what you may remember as a Gopher 
rendering of an article? If you-and-Karen prefer, we could begin a new thread 
under a new subject-line? Thanks in advance

Chime

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Tim Chase
On March 23, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> An example of a mass downloader included with a  Linux shell?
> I want to test this, but am unsure of what tool to use.

If, as Jeffrey suggests, there's a sensible pattern to the chapter
breakdowns (an actual sample URL would help), you can either use
"curl" which knows how to expand numeric ranges or wrap it in a "for"
loop in the shell.  Additionally, a little testing suggests that the
trailing story-title slug is optional.  So you can do:

  $ STORY_ID=8045114
  $ TOTAL_CHAPTERS=87
  $ SLUG=MauradersPlan
  $ curl
  "https://m.fanfiction.net/s/${STORY_ID}/[1-${TOTAL_CHAPTERS}]/; -o
  "${SLUG}_#1.html"

I created variables to clarify what's going where and what's easy to
change.  It could easily be put in a script such as "fanfiction.sh":

  #!/bin/sh
  curl "https://m.fanfiction.net/s/$1/[1-$2]/; -o "$3_#1.html"

make it executable:

  $ chmod ugo+x ./fanfiction.sh

and then you can invoke it with

  $ ./fanfiction.sh 8045114 87 MauradersPlan


Though now that I better understand the problem, wget might be an
even better solution since it can pull down all the chapters *and*
update the internal links so that they link to each other.  And all
you need is the story ID:

  wget -c --no-parent --mirror --trust-server-names --convert-links 
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/8045114/

Again, as per my previous message, you might want to use the

  --limit-rate=20.5k
  --random-wait

options as well to be a little kinder to the server instead of
hammering them.

You might then want to make a directory in which you put symlinks so
that you have a sensible name pointing to that directory so you can
remember that as "MauradersPlan" instead of "8045114":

  ln -s m.fanfiction.net/s/8045114 MauradersPlan

The wget and curl utilities are pretty prevalent, so I imagine
they're already available to you (and if not, should be uneventful
for installing).

I did the above, giving me an 87-chapter book that I was able to
navigate offline with lynx (or whichever other browser) and
encountered no major issues.

Best wishes,

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
A quick Google search tells me that {1..30} in the url will tell wget
to download everything in the range 1 to 30. So, the appropriate
command for mass downloading a story from FF.net might look something
like:

wget https://m.fanfiction.net/s/[storyID]/{1..[numberOfChapters]}/[storyTitle]

replacing anything in [] with the appropriate values.

Here's the link I got this info from:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537797

which also provides an example of using a for loop for the same thing
and a while loop for when you don't know the end value of the
range(persumably, the loop runs until wget fails from a 404 file not
found error, though FF.net has a chapter not found page that might
result in an infinite loop). You may still need to manually load the
first chapter to get the story ID, title, and number of chapters, but
this is still less work than manually loading and saving every
chapter.

Please note: I don't have much experience using wget and haven't
tested any of this. Still, I'm pretty sure the worse that could happen
with wget is downloading the wrong files.

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Karen Lewellen

Interesting ideas.
I appreciate the education.
An example of a mass downloader included with a  Linux shell?
I want to test this, but am unsure of what tool to use.
The editing is not a problem, I am far from picky about it having, with 
the work was smaller, used the m.edition  of the site to secure things one 
at a time.
That I might  grab all the chapters at once would be a fine solution. 
Certainly for the works I cannot get in epub.
robobraille converts epub to rtf.  when I use gmail, basic html, the work 
is automatically converted to plain text for me.

Thanks again,
Kare


On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote:


A few thoughts:

changing www to m in an FF.net URL gives you the mobile version of the
page. For story chapters, this greatly reduces the cruft at the top of
the page and somewhat reduces the cruft at the bottom.

The format for story page URLs is
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/[storyID]/[Chapter#]/[storyTitle]

So, if you know the story Id, title, and number of chapters, you can
use any generic mass downloader to download all pages in the range
chapter#=1 to chapter#=total chapters.

If your mass downloader doesn't have built-in support for converting
to plain text, html2text can do this for you and you can then read in
your text editor of choice(this also allows you to correct typos the
author missed if you plan to reread at a future date).

Thanks to downloading the mobile versions, there is less cruft to
remove from the files if you just want the story text. Reduced enough
that manually removing the cruft isn't much trouble, though if you
plan to do this for entire bookshelves worth of content, you'll
probably want a tool to automate the process. The split command can
divide a file into files with x number of lines, which can be useful
for removing large headers and small footers from text files, but can
require remerging with cat if the split produces more than 2 files.
the head and tail commands can return the first/last n lines of a
file, which might also be useful.

If you really want all the chapters in a single file(personally, I
prefer the convenience of each chapter in it's own file), the cat
command can merge the files for you provided they're named so they are
in the correct order when you do ls -1. I believe the syntax you want
is:
cat *.txt > book.txt
Again, it's important that the input files are named properly. For
example, probably the easiest mistake to make is that a lack of
leading zeros on chapters 1-9 will result in chapters 10-19 being
between chapters 1 and 2, chapters 20-29 between chapters 2 and 3, and
so on in the combined file, and lack of leading zeros can cause even
more chaos with 100+ chapters).

You could probably combine these tips to make a bash script that takes
story ID, title, and number of chapters as input and produces a
plain-text eBook as its final output, but that's a bit advanced for my
scripting skills and I just read online, so I have little incentive.

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
A few thoughts:

changing www to m in an FF.net URL gives you the mobile version of the
page. For story chapters, this greatly reduces the cruft at the top of
the page and somewhat reduces the cruft at the bottom.

The format for story page URLs is
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/[storyID]/[Chapter#]/[storyTitle]

So, if you know the story Id, title, and number of chapters, you can
use any generic mass downloader to download all pages in the range
chapter#=1 to chapter#=total chapters.

If your mass downloader doesn't have built-in support for converting
to plain text, html2text can do this for you and you can then read in
your text editor of choice(this also allows you to correct typos the
author missed if you plan to reread at a future date).

Thanks to downloading the mobile versions, there is less cruft to
remove from the files if you just want the story text. Reduced enough
that manually removing the cruft isn't much trouble, though if you
plan to do this for entire bookshelves worth of content, you'll
probably want a tool to automate the process. The split command can
divide a file into files with x number of lines, which can be useful
for removing large headers and small footers from text files, but can
require remerging with cat if the split produces more than 2 files.
the head and tail commands can return the first/last n lines of a
file, which might also be useful.

If you really want all the chapters in a single file(personally, I
prefer the convenience of each chapter in it's own file), the cat
command can merge the files for you provided they're named so they are
in the correct order when you do ls -1. I believe the syntax you want
is:
cat *.txt > book.txt
Again, it's important that the input files are named properly. For
example, probably the easiest mistake to make is that a lack of
leading zeros on chapters 1-9 will result in chapters 10-19 being
between chapters 1 and 2, chapters 20-29 between chapters 2 and 3, and
so on in the combined file, and lack of leading zeros can cause even
more chaos with 100+ chapters).

You could probably combine these tips to make a bash script that takes
story ID, title, and number of chapters as input and produces a
plain-text eBook as its final output, but that's a bit advanced for my
scripting skills and I just read online, so I have little incentive.

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Karen Lewellen
...somehow I am guessing you did not notice that the harry Potter section, 
has  hundreds of thousands of stories  smiles.
The p option would be a fine idea, if it printed the entire 
formatted work like at archive of our own.  now it 
only  does chapter by chapter.
I doubt uget would produce more than chapter by chapter either since the 
fanfiction  links include a  /option for the chapter number.
May be more productive asking Ken to consider installing one of the 
fanfiction   downloader programs here.

Thanks for the ideas though,
Kare


On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, Tim Chase wrote:


On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

The goal is to read the works off line, not on the site. i. e.
download them.
Compare with archive of our own.
www.archiveofourown.org
there one has the option to download, even in lynx for example via
the full story choice, get the story int ext.


A couple options:

1) for individual stores, you should be able to use the "p"rint
option in lynx to print the formatted story to a local text file that
you can then read at your later convenience.

2) you can use wget to mirror a site, slurping down everything. Or a
subset since fanfiction.net seems to have a nice URL structure, so
you can limit your mirroring to just, say

https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/M-A-S-H/

without pulling in every other TV show as well as movies, games,
books, plays, etc.  The command might look something like

wget --mirror--adjust-extension --no-parent --convert-links 
https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/M-A-S-H/

You might also use a couple options to be nice to the host and not
slam them with a bajillion requests, so you might add

 --limit-rate=25k
 --random-wait

to wait a random interval between the downloads, and limit the
slurping to a slower rate.

Warning, this will slurp in *everything* under that URL (presuming
you use the "--no-parent"; if you don't it will mirror the entire
stinkin' site) possibly including comment pages.  So I'd experiment
with one of the smaller topics to get it working and see roughly how
much a small mirror takes.  If you have enough space and time, then
point it to a full archive.

Once you have them downloaded locally, you can use lynx to browse them
offline (and, to a degree, even navigate among them as I believe it
updates links or at least relative linking works)

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-23 Thread Tim Chase
On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> The goal is to read the works off line, not on the site. i. e.
> download them.
> Compare with archive of our own.
> www.archiveofourown.org
> there one has the option to download, even in lynx for example via
> the full story choice, get the story int ext.

A couple options:

1) for individual stores, you should be able to use the "p"rint
option in lynx to print the formatted story to a local text file that
you can then read at your later convenience.

2) you can use wget to mirror a site, slurping down everything. Or a
subset since fanfiction.net seems to have a nice URL structure, so
you can limit your mirroring to just, say

https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/M-A-S-H/

without pulling in every other TV show as well as movies, games,
books, plays, etc.  The command might look something like

wget --mirror--adjust-extension --no-parent --convert-links 
https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/M-A-S-H/

You might also use a couple options to be nice to the host and not
slam them with a bajillion requests, so you might add

  --limit-rate=25k
  --random-wait

to wait a random interval between the downloads, and limit the
slurping to a slower rate.

Warning, this will slurp in *everything* under that URL (presuming
you use the "--no-parent"; if you don't it will mirror the entire
stinkin' site) possibly including comment pages.  So I'd experiment
with one of the smaller topics to get it working and see roughly how
much a small mirror takes.  If you have enough space and time, then
point it to a full archive.

Once you have them downloaded locally, you can use lynx to browse them
offline (and, to a degree, even navigate among them as I believe it
updates links or at least relative linking works)

-tim




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Re: command line fan fiction program? (fwd)

2017-03-22 Thread Karen Lewellen

Laughs!
Well I am getting them too, and girls are not my thing.
Certainly one might be surprised  at how successful such a hookup  would 
be, phones and all...but this  person is answering every post 
suggesting more  than scraping.

Kare


On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, Paul Merrell wrote:


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:

ahem,
did everyone get this below?


I didn't get that one, but I've been getting other prostitution
solicitations from women with different names emailed to my account in
response to my posts to this list during the last week. (I wonder if
this one will draw another?) 'd guess that someone is scraping the
list's archives for sender email addresses.

I'd also suspect that the emails are scams of some sort. My email
address conveys zero information about my physical location and a
sincere prostitution solicitation would seem to require two human
bodies within a hundred miles or so of each other. So I suspect the
goal of the emails is not actually a sexual  hookup.

Best regards,

Paul

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Re: command line fan fiction program? (fwd)

2017-03-22 Thread Paul Merrell
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
> ahem,
> did everyone get this below?

I didn't get that one, but I've been getting other prostitution
solicitations from women with different names emailed to my account in
response to my posts to this list during the last week. (I wonder if
this one will draw another?) 'd guess that someone is scraping the
list's archives for sender email addresses.

I'd also suspect that the emails are scams of some sort. My email
address conveys zero information about my physical location and a
sincere prostitution solicitation would seem to require two human
bodies within a hundred miles or so of each other. So I suspect the
goal of the emails is not actually a sexual  hookup.

Best regards,

Paul

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-22 Thread Karen Lewellen
The goal is to read the works off line, not on the site. i. e. download 
them.

Compare with archive of our own.
www.archiveofourown.org
there one has the option to download, even in lynx for example via the full 
story choice, get the story int ext.

However, not all  fan fiction stories appear elsewhere.
Karen


On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, Tim Chase wrote:


(yes, both your original post and your nudge came through)

Am I missing something in particular?  I visited the site in
Lynx-the-cat and was able to get to a number of the fanfic works
without any issue.  Just to sample, I went in by Movie and sampled
some of the X-Men works, and went in by TV Show and sampled some of
the M*A*S*H works.  They all came back as HTML.

If you're looking for a scraper, the classic "wget" tool should
provide the ability to scrape a subset of the site.  You might then
have to do some post-cleanup if you don't want all the site-related
periphery.

-tim

On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

there is a site  called fan fiction.
www.fanfiction.net
A very long time ago it was possible to download items there, but
now one must use a third party application.
I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something that
might be a part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is what I
have both at shellworld and via dreamhost that can get the works
converting them into well anything?
via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.


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Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-22 Thread Tim Chase
(yes, both your original post and your nudge came through)

Am I missing something in particular?  I visited the site in
Lynx-the-cat and was able to get to a number of the fanfic works
without any issue.  Just to sample, I went in by Movie and sampled
some of the X-Men works, and went in by TV Show and sampled some of
the M*A*S*H works.  They all came back as HTML.

If you're looking for a scraper, the classic "wget" tool should
provide the ability to scrape a subset of the site.  You might then
have to do some post-cleanup if you don't want all the site-related
periphery.

-tim

On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> there is a site  called fan fiction.
> www.fanfiction.net
> A very long time ago it was possible to download items there, but
> now one must use a third party application.
> I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something that
> might be a part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is what I
> have both at shellworld and via dreamhost that can get the works
> converting them into well anything?
> via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.

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command line fan fiction program?

2017-03-22 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi folks,
there is a site  called fan fiction.
www.fanfiction.net
A very long time ago it was possible to download items there, but now one 
must use a third party application.
I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something that  might be a 
part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is what I have both at 
shellworld and via dreamhost that can get the works converting them into 
well anything?

via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.
Thanks for any ideas.
Kare

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