Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?
-Original Message- From: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Dave Taht via Nnagain Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:34 AM To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!; bloat Cc: Dave Taht Subject: [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback? This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues, behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things. [RR] As I recall, there has been some discussion, largely philosophical, about gaming in this thread which is interesting to keep in mind. https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-inte rnet-packages-ericsson In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t. [RR] We can debate whether a solid gaming experience is a win (and for whom:-)), however thats for another day. LTE/5G is nothing more than hype as far as capacity claims are concerned. Thats precisely why carriers give it away for free! When my connection on my phone slows to a crawl, universally its because my phone has autonomously switched to one of the super fantastic 5G links. Little children used to play a game called BS; they still may. I think you know whats coming next! :-):-):-) RR -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Nnagain mailing list nnag...@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:45 AM Kenneth Porter via Bloat wrote: > > I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on > colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years > ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas > City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a > lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to > operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that > unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had > to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games. I tested the fq_codel for wifi code against ioquake3. It works. Using edca also works. If the big telcos got behind twitchy games big-time, sponsoring teams running over their technologies, perhaps progress would be made. It could become like NASCAR Regrettably i find the current generation of games like CoD too realistic. It is one thing to shoot a daemons, gleefully, another to shoot at people. > > > ___ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games. ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
[Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues, behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things. https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-internet-packages-ericsson In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t. -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat