Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?

2024-01-10 Thread Dick Roy via Bloat
 

 

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From: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of
Dave Taht via Nnagain
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:34 AM
To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
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Subject: [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?

 

This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues,

behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things.

[RR] As I recall, there has been some discussion, largely philosophical,
about gaming in this thread which is interesting to keep in mind.  

 

https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-inte
rnet-packages-ericsson

 

In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming

experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t.

[RR] We can debate whether a “solid gaming experience” is a win (and for
whom:-)), however that’s for another day.  LTE/5G is nothing more than hype
as far as capacity claims are concerned.  That’s precisely why carriers
“give it away for free”!  When my connection on my phone slows to a crawl,
universally it’s because my phone has autonomously switched to one of the
“super fantastic 5G links”. Little children used to play a game called “BS”;
they still may. I think you know what’s coming next! :-):-):-)

 

RR   

 

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Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?

2024-01-10 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:45 AM Kenneth Porter via Bloat
 wrote:
>
> I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on
> colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years
> ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas
> City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a
> lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to
> operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that
> unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had
> to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games.

I tested the fq_codel for wifi code against ioquake3. It works. Using
edca also works. If the big telcos got behind twitchy games big-time,
sponsoring teams running over their technologies, perhaps progress
would be made. It could become like NASCAR

Regrettably i find the current generation of games like CoD too
realistic. It is one thing to shoot a daemons, gleefully, another to
shoot at people.
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Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?

2024-01-10 Thread Kenneth Porter via Bloat
I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on 
colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years 
ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas 
City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a 
lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to 
operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that 
unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had 
to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games.



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[Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?

2024-01-10 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues,
behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things.

https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-internet-packages-ericsson

In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming
experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t.

-- 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
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