Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] broadband cost analysis

2022-04-15 Thread Dave Taht 
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:48 AM Livingood, Jason via Bloat
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> On 4/14/22, 11:40, "Bloat on behalf of Rich Brown" 
>  
> wrote:
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> >$2K-$4K per premise for the drop cable from the pole and the router in 
> > the premise
>
> What is the CPE router? Does it have AQM or some other latency control 
> mechanism?

I wish we knew what those costs were projected to be. It would if more
folk were to be persistently asking these questions of the authors of
these plans. I tried, recently, to get even one of my questions
answered at this recent interview last week of the NTIA broadband
administrator, with no luck.

https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadband-grant-events/alan-davidson-fireside-chat
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> Thx!
> Jason
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Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] broadband cost analysis

2022-04-15 Thread Livingood, Jason via Bloat 
On 4/14/22, 11:40, "Bloat on behalf of Rich Brown" 
 
wrote:

>$2K-$4K per premise for the drop cable from the pole and the router in the 
> premise

What is the CPE router? Does it have AQM or some other latency control 
mechanism?

Thx!
Jason


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Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] broadband cost analysis

2022-04-14 Thread Rich Brown 
One item to consider re: costs. My rural NH town just installed fiber to run 
past all premises. A quick estimate of total capital cost uses two numbers:

- $40K/mile to hang the fiber on existing utility poles on the road
- $2K-$4K per premise for the drop cable from the pole and the router in the 
premise


> On Apr 14, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Dave Taht via Rpm  
> wrote:
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> Looking at figure 7 (non-adoption rates by age group), nearly 30% of
> those under 30 do not have fixed broadband.
> From an informal survey of those I know in that age range, they are
> primarily dependent on their cell phones,
> cannot live at a fixed address for long enough to adopt fixed
> broadband solutions, and go to coffee shops and
> libraries (and the office) to get their connectivity. I am kind of
> curious as to the trendline here - a cellphone is a must
> for this generation, quality fixed internet merely a nice to have.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:18 AM Dave Taht  wrote:
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>> pretty good:
>> 
>> https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f5282b71117310d16e654d3/t/6256eb4efbb468024f396969/1649863506445/Toward+Effective+Administration+of+State+and+Local+Fixed+Broadband+Programs+-+04.12.22+Final+Report.pdf
>> 
>> My lowball cost estimate for "better, recycled routers" would be
>> somewhere in the 20 dollar range for the 25/3mbit segment, which
>> depending on how you do the math per above is somewhere between 10 and
>> 65 million people.
>> 
>> It would be cool to have good bufferbloat statistics for the 25/3mbit
>> portion of the population.
>> 
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