Re: [Bloat] Is still netperf a valid tool?

2020-06-15 Thread Sergio Belkin
El lun., 15 jun. 2020 06:15, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen  escribió:

> Sergio Belkin  writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I've seen that many of the recommended tools to diagnose/troubleshoot
> > bufferbloat use netperf.
> > Netperf in https://github.com/HewlettPackard/netperf has many years of
> > inactivity. In fact, in recent versions of distros don't include it.
> > So, my question is: is still netperf a reliable tool?
>
> Reliable in the sense that it works and produces results that are likely
> to be fairly close to the reality you want to measure? Absolutely.
> Reliable in the sense that you can always rely on it being available?
> Unfortunately not.
>
> The latter is more of a licensing issue, though, which unfortunately
> also means that it is not likely to be fixed... :(
>
> -Toke
>

Thanks for tour kind answers
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Re: [Bloat] Is still netperf a valid tool?

2020-06-15 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
--- Begin Message ---
Sergio Belkin  writes:

> Hi,
> I've seen that many of the recommended tools to diagnose/troubleshoot
> bufferbloat use netperf.
> Netperf in https://github.com/HewlettPackard/netperf has many years of
> inactivity. In fact, in recent versions of distros don't include it.
> So, my question is: is still netperf a reliable tool?

Reliable in the sense that it works and produces results that are likely
to be fairly close to the reality you want to measure? Absolutely.
Reliable in the sense that you can always rely on it being available?
Unfortunately not.

The latter is more of a licensing issue, though, which unfortunately
also means that it is not likely to be fixed... :(

-Toke
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Re: [Bloat] Is still netperf a valid tool?

2020-06-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Sergio,

IMHO netperf is a convenient toll to generate load, and for measuring 
bufferbloat, or latency under load increase, generating saturating loads is an 
important step. So I see no reason why the fct that netperf is relatively 
mature and sees only little change nowadays speaks against using it. I note 
that optionally the actual latency measurement can/will be performed using 
irtt...
I guess the real experts will be able to offer a more nuanced opinion...

Best Regards
Sebastian


> On Jun 14, 2020, at 16:36, Sergio Belkin  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I've seen that many of the recommended tools to diagnose/troubleshoot 
> bufferbloat use netperf.
> Netperf in https://github.com/HewlettPackard/netperf has many years of 
> inactivity. In fact, in recent versions of distros don't include it.
> So, my question is: is still netperf a reliable tool?
> Thanks in advance!
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[Bloat] Is still netperf a valid tool?

2020-06-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi,
I've seen that many of the recommended tools to diagnose/troubleshoot
bufferbloat use netperf.
Netperf in https://github.com/HewlettPackard/netperf has many years of
inactivity. In fact, in recent versions of distros don't include it.
So, my question is: is still netperf a reliable tool?
Thanks in advance!
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