[BlueOnyx:07475] Network Solutions 2048 SSL

2011-06-17 Thread Mark E. Levy
Hello, I'm trying to renew an SSL cert and I'm getting "The CSR uses an
unsupported key size." BO is fully YUM updated. Why is this still happening?
I'm using Network Solutions for the cert.

-Mark


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[BlueOnyx:07483] Re: Network Solutions 2048 SSL

2011-06-17 Thread Mark E. Levy
Michael,

Just so I understand, does this mean that I'm not renewing the current cert, 
but creating a request for a new one?

Thanks,
Mark

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Stauber" 
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:34:02 AM
Subject: [BlueOnyx:07476] Re: Network Solutions 2048 SSL

Hi Mark,

> I'm trying to renew an SSL cert and I'm getting "The CSR uses an
> unsupported key size." BO is fully YUM updated. Why is this still
> happening? I'm using Network Solutions for the cert.

The problem here is that you still have the old (1024bit) certificate key and 
key request in your sites "certs" directory.

So when you simply generate a new request, it uses the old 1024 bit key to 
generate the new request. Otherwise the certificate authority couldn't do a 
reissue.

To be able to create a 2048bit CSR, you need to remove the old key and have to 
start over.

Say your site is named "www.domain.com". So you login to your server as 
"admin" and "su -" to gain "root" access.

Your "certs" directory for that site is here:

/home/sites/www.domain.com/certs/

Make a copy of it:

cd /home/sites/www.domain.com/
cp -R certs certs.1024b

Then delete the "certs" directory and recreate an empty one:

rm -R certs
mkdir certs

Then recreate your CSR through the GUI and for the time being also create a 
self signed certificate that you use until you get the real certificate.

IF you temporarily want to go back to the old 1024bit certificate, then things 
get a little complicated:

You NEED the stuff in the "certs" directory that you now have for the 
certificate that you're waiting on. So you do not want to loose it.

Hence you make another copy of that directory:

cp -R certs certs.2048b

Then you copy the old certs directory back:

cp -R certs.1024b certs

Then restart Apache:

/etc/init.d/httpd restart

Once you get the new (real) SSL certificate issued, you have to (again) juggle 
the directories around:

cp -R certs.2048b certs

Then you can install the new certificate through the GUI.

-- 
With best regards

Michael Stauber
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[BlueOnyx:07677] phpMyAdmin broken

2011-07-14 Thread Mark E. Levy
I can't seem to access phpMyAdmin. I last used it about a month or so ago. I 
suspect that some update since then has had an adverse affect. 

When I try to access it, all I see is "Connecting to " repeatedly 
flashing at the bottom of the browser window (FireFox 5.0). phpMyAdmin never 
opens. 

What could be wrong? 

Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:07874] How to disable directory listing

2011-07-27 Thread Mark E. Levy
I have a site that does not have an index.html in the root. It's intended to be 
referred from another web site that specifies the file. However, when the URL 
is entered without the file name, a listing of the contents of the directory is 
returned. Other than creating an index.html, is there any way to disable the 
directory listing? 

Thanks, 
-Mark 

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[BlueOnyx:08536] Updating PHP

2011-09-21 Thread Mark E. Levy
Is it possible to update PHP to the latest or at least 5.2.4? We need it for 
WordPress. 

Thanks! 

-Mark 
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[BlueOnyx:08546] Re: Updating PHP

2011-09-22 Thread Mark E. Levy
How do the Solorspeed or Compass kits work in the context of BlueOnyx? Would 
the new PHP only be applicable to the specific websites that need it? I assume 
that it couldn't be deployed system-wide due to GUI dependencies.

I'm also considering setting up a 5108R, principally for this new site, perhaps 
eventually as a migration target for the current server. Since I'm running in a 
VMware environment, it's pretty much a no-brainer...

Thanks,
Mark

Mark E. Levy wrote:
> Is it possible to update PHP to the latest or at least 5.2.4? We need it
> for WordPress.

BlueOnyx 5106R will be held at the upstream vendor's release (5.1.6).
That's a function of Red Hat Enterprise 5.x by way of CentOS 5.x.

Your solution would be to pick up a PHP upgrade package from either
Solarspeed or Compass Networks, either of which is inexpensive enough to
not have to think to much about.

BlueOnyx 5107R & 5108R are natively using PHP 5.3.x from RHEL 6 by way
of Scientific Linux 6.

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  10. [BlueOnyx:08544]  apache rewrite rules (Maurice de Laat)
  11. [BlueOnyx:08545] Re: apache rewrite rules (Richard Morgan)

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[BlueOnyx:08549] 5108R brand new install PHPadmin problem

2011-09-22 Thread Mark E. Levy
Just install a fresh 5108R on VMware. When I try to access the PHPadmin page, 
it never loads, and I see "Connecting to (hostname)" "Waiting for (hostname)" 
"Looking up (hostname)" repeatedly in the lower left corner of the browser. Did 
something go wrong in the installation? 

Thanks, 
Mark 

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[BlueOnyx:08645] Email issue

2011-09-27 Thread Mark E. Levy
I have a website that sends email from a contact form. I'm not using email on 
BO, it's on a different platform. This means that the website is sending mail 
to an address with the same domain as the website. It appears that BO is trying 
to deliver the email locally, as only non-local recipients ever actually get 
the email. How can I get BO to send the email out regardless of the domain? 

Thanks, 

Mark 
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[BlueOnyx:08655] Re: Email issue

2011-09-28 Thread Mark E. Levy
Jeff,

That is correct, we're not using email on BO. I do have a relay server set in 
the advanced email config, but I don't see any of the emails going through it. 
The site in question is based on WordPress, and I suspect that it's not using 
Sendmail.

Thanks,
Mark

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Folk" 
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:03:05 PM
Subject: [BlueOnyx:08646] Re: Email issue

On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Mark E. Levy wrote:
> 
> I have a website that sends email from a contact form. I'm not using email on 
> BO, it's on a different platform. This means that the website is sending mail 
> to an address with the same domain as the website. It appears that BO is 
> trying to deliver the email locally, as only non-local recipients ever 
> actually get the email. How can I get BO to send the email out regardless of 
> the domain?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark

Do you mean that NO e-mail is done on the BlueOnyx box? If that is the case, 
you can enter a "Smart Relay Server" in your Email Server Settings... Set it to 
your machine that handles your mail services. Be sure to set that mail server 
to allow your BlueOnyx box to relay mail through it...

Regards;
Jeff

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[BlueOnyx:08656] Re: Email issue

2011-09-28 Thread Mark E. Levy
Chuck, 

I don't know how I missed that, but even with it checked, I'm not seeing the 
emails. This site is based on WordPress, and I'm thinking that it isn't using 
SendMail but something else. 

Thanks, 
Mark 

- Original Message -

From: "Chuck Tetlow"  
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:29:38 PM 
Subject: [BlueOnyx:08648] Re: Email issue 

I've seen this before. The website is on the BlueOnyx box, and e-mail is 
handled by some other machine (like a yu Exchange). But the BlueOnyx server 
knows that domain is on it and tries to deliver it locally. Yep - I've run into 
that. 

Before BlueOnyx (BlueQuartz days), you had to go into the Sendmail 
configuration files in /etc/mail and remove all traces of the domain. Restart 
Sendmail and it would work OK. But make any modifications to that domain's 
settings - and you had to do it again. Not fun. And not easy, if you're not 
comfortable at the command-line. 

But I believe that with the BlueOnyx - you can simply click the "Disable E-mail 
for Domain" checkbox and that will take care of it for you. Look in the site 
setup, under the left side SERVICES, and E-MAIL. No more having to do it at the 
command-line, now its in the GUI. 

Let us know if that works for you. 



Chuck 




-- Original Message --- 
From: "Mark E. Levy"  
To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List  
Sent: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:47:58 -0500 (CDT) 
Subject: [BlueOnyx:08645] Email issue 

> I have a website that sends email from a contact form. I'm not using email on 
> BO, it's on a different platform. This means that the website is sending mail 
> to an address with the same domain as the website. It appears that BO is 
> trying to deliver the email locally, as only non-local recipients ever 
> actually get the email. How can I get BO to send the email out regardless of 
> the domain? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mark 
--- End of Original Message --- 

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[BlueOnyx:08659] Re: Email issue

2011-09-28 Thread Mark E. Levy
Thanks, Jeff. I found the problem, it wasn't a BO issue at all. It was an IP 
routing issue. the BO box didn't have connectivity to some of my other internal 
systems, but it could route out to the Internet. 

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Folk" 
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:01:08 AM
Subject: [BlueOnyx:08657] Re: Email issue

On Sep 28, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Mark E. Levy wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> That is correct, we're not using email on BO. I do have a relay server set in 
> the advanced email config, but I don't see any of the emails going through 
> it. The site in question is based on WordPress, and I suspect that it's not 
> using Sendmail.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark

Wordpress uses sendmail, through a php function. It can be configured to use 
SMTP instead... Here's a lead:

http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/12939/using-wordpress-with-external-smtp-server/

HTH;
Jeff

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[BlueOnyx:08729] Email error trying to delete a site

2011-10-04 Thread Mark E. Levy
Trying to delete a web site, I'm getting the following: 

Sorry, an error occurred while trying to create an email server map file. If 
mail server configuration files were removed or manually modified, please 
restore the original versions and try again. 
cantDeleteEmailAlias 

I haven't changed any of the files in this site. I've tried removing the alias 
and disabling email for the site, but the error persists. How can I delete this 
site? 

Thanks, 
mark 
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[BlueOnyx:08735] Re: Email error trying to delete a site

2011-10-04 Thread Mark E. Levy
Thank you, Chris. That did the trick!

-Mark

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet" 
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 3:51:04 PM
Subject: [BlueOnyx:08731] Re: Email error trying to delete a site

Mark E. Levy wrote:
> Trying to delete a web site, I'm getting the following:
> 
> Sorry, an error occurred while trying to create an email server map 
> file. If mail server configuration files were removed or manually 
> modified, please restore the original versions and try again.
> cantDeleteEmailAlias
> 
> I haven't changed any of the files in this site. I've tried removing the 
> alias and disabling email for the site, but the error persists. How can 
> I delete this site?

Hi Mark,
Here, try this:
https://support.virtbiz.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=62

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[BlueOnyx:08907] New user can't log in

2011-10-25 Thread Mark E. Levy
I've just created a new website & user on a nearly-new 5108R. I cannot log into 
this user's account via several different FTP apps. The security log reports a 
problem with the password, but I'm dead sure I've typed it correctly. The 
username does not appear in the blocked user list. 



Oct 25 15:38:35 web03 proftpd[2932]: localhost - USER etaent (Login failed): 
Incorrect password. 

I've deleted and re-created the user twice. What could be the problem? 

Thanks, 
Mark 

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[BlueOnyx:09062] User can't login through webmail

2011-11-17 Thread Mark E. Levy
I haven't been using the email services on BO, but would like to start. As a 
test, I tried logging into a site/webmail and a user's account information and 
got the Squirrelmail login screen. Attempting to login, I got an error 
indicating invalid account information. This user can login to the site's 
/admin, so I know the username/password are correct. I can't find anything 
useful in the logs. I tried both the username and username + domain. 

What did I miss? 

TIA, 
Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:09063] More email problems

2011-11-17 Thread Mark E. Levy
I just tried a test to this site and it appears that it won't accept email for 
the domain either: 

220 web02.xx.com ESMTP Sendmail Ready; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:49:53 -0600 
ehlo etaent.com 
250-web02.xx.com Hello c-24-13-32-10.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.13.32.10], 
plea 
sed to meet you 
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 
250-PIPELINING 
250-8BITMIME 
250-SIZE 2147483647 
250-DSN 
250-ETRN 
250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN 
250-DELIVERBY 
250-HELP 
250 STARTTLS 
mail from: 
250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok 
rcpt to: 
550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication 
required. 

"yy.com" is a valid domain on the system, there is a web site on that 
domain. 

Thanks again, 
Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:10265] Recent updates & wordpress

2012-04-20 Thread Mark E. Levy
It appears that some recent updates to my 5108R killed Wordpress. I have three 
wordpress sites on this server, and all of them stopped working as of this 
morning. I had to go back two days to get a pre-update version that worked (it 
runs on VMware so I just restored the whole machine). I have turned off 
automatic updates. Any ideas what update might have caused the problems? 

Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:10497] Increasing size of hard drive

2012-05-08 Thread Mark E. Levy
How can the size of a BO drive be increased? I'm running BO on VMware and thus 
can easily increase the space allocated to that virtual machine, but how do I 
get BO to recognize that there is more space available? 

Thx! 

Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:11119] Not using smart host for email routing

2012-08-07 Thread Mark E. Levy
On a 5106R, I have a smarthost configured in the email settings. However. when 
a user sends an email using Squirrelmail, it's apparently sending directly to 
the recipient server, according to the mail headers. How do I ensure that the 
smarthost parameter is honored? 

Thanks, 
Mark 
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[BlueOnyx:12097] External access to MYSQL

2013-01-25 Thread Mark E. Levy
Hello, 

I need to permit access from another host to the MYSQL database on my BO box. I 
get a reject when I try to connect to port 3306.What needs to be done to allow 
this? 

Thanks 

Mark Levy 
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[BlueOnyx:12141] Increasing disk space

2013-02-03 Thread Mark E. Levy
Hello, 

I need to increase the size of the disk my BO system runs on. I'm running BO on 
VMware, so I can easily add space to the hard drive in the VM. Please tell me 
that getting BO to see the additional free space is a s easy as rebooting... 
:-) 

If not, any reference points would be helpful. 

TIA, 
Mark 

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[BlueOnyx:12145] Re: Increasing disk space

2013-02-03 Thread Mark E. Levy
Thank you, that makes sense. How do I go about adding the new virtual disk to 
the LVM group? 


- Original Message -

From: "Christoph Schneeberger"  
To: blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it 
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:37:47 AM 
Subject: [BlueOnyx:12142] Re: Increasing disk space 


Hi 

I'd recommend not increasing the existing disks size but instead adding a 
second virtual one to the VM and then just add it to the LVM volume group and 
then grow the volume - both are doable while the system is online. 
Growing the main disk may certainly be possible too, but you need to boot from 
an emergency CD/system and first grow the partition and then the filesystem and 
there is some room for great havoc to happen with that while the approach with 
a new disk is pretty fail-safe. 

Hth, 
Christoph 

On 02/03/2013 02:27 PM, Mark E. Levy wrote: 



Hello, 

I need to increase the size of the disk my BO system runs on. I'm running BO on 
VMware, so I can easily add space to the hard drive in the VM. Please tell me 
that getting BO to see the additional free space is a s easy as rebooting... 
:-) 

If not, any reference points would be helpful. 

TIA, 
Mark 



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[BlueOnyx:12377] Re: Solarspeed / Compass / BlueOnyx stores

2013-03-05 Thread Mark E. Levy
Jeff,

Well said. I agree 100%. BX is a great platform, and we rely on it. I would 
certainly be willing to pay something to use it.

Mark E. Levy
Sent from my iPad, please excuse any typos


On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jeff Rhys-Jones  wrote:

> I've read and re-read every post in todays discussion and I'm still trying to 
> find anything which anyone could even remotely mis-interperate as being rude!
> 
> Actually - I always thought this list one of the more open minded and 'up for 
> measured, fair debate' than any other I am on. As a community, people should 
> be able to suggest improvements, even perhaps criticise aspects of the 
> software - if there are grounds for it. If there are not grounds for it, and 
> that person just didn't understand something - then someone will always pop 
> up and *politely* correct them or point them in the right direction. We've 
> all been there at least once I think!
> 
> One thing that confuses me a little out of todays discussions - and I hope 
> someone can put me right on this.
> 
> It's clear that it's the intention for BX to remain free - that's admirable - 
> but personally if you were able to quit your day job as you said you could 
> Greg - and hire more staff - wouldn't that make for a better BX? 
> 
> So my first question is - what's is the goal here? Is it to provide a free BX 
> - to feed the meter with the occasional package sale and essentially 
> 'maintain' it - or to move BX 'onwards and upwards'? This I would like to 
> know.
> 
> Then to say we are not allowed to discuss commercials on list - this also I 
> find a bit 'inhibitive' - to me a new feature is a new feature, whether it's 
> a paid feature or a free feature, I would like to talk about it. There is a 
> lot of experience on this list - I'm sure many could add value and suggest 
> improvements etc? We are of course, all existing/potential customers aren't 
> we?!
> 
> Again I am probably dead wrong on this - but it seems like BX is a bit 
> confused at the moment, it doesn't know if it's commercial or community 
> focused. Yes it's free, however many of the packages are really required for 
> mainstream functionality. So in many cases - it's free to download, but 
> commercial to actually use.
> 
> As I stated before, I would much rather everyone pay $$ per license per month 
> / year. At the very least - for people taking updates. Everyone that 
> downloads BX sucks GBs of YUM bandwidth - and are currently paying nothing 
> back. It doesn't seem to me to be a scalable, viable business model. 
> 
> In my somewhat warped mind - the way I see it - is that the folks buying the 
> packages are actually subsidising those downloading BX for free. If everyone 
> paid something, surely that would be a fairer / better system?
> 
> I would like Greg to be able to quit his day job. I would like more staff on 
> BX. I would like Michael to buy a coffee plantation - and to produce me what 
> would surely be the worlds best coffee. I would like a better BX which is 
> more up to date and with more regularly added new features.
> 
> If everyone paid something - surely that could happen?
> 
> Jeff
> 
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[BlueOnyx:12430] Re: Upgrading Switch

2013-03-05 Thread Mark E. Levy
*I* would not recommend the Cisco 2948. That model uses the Catalyst O/S, NOT 
IOS. Those switches are cheap because while they purport to be POE, you must 
use non-standard cables. There are tons of them out there. I, too was lured by 
the cheap price and bought one, and ended up taking it on a long voyage to the 
computer junkyard very shortly thereafter. It's a boat anchor. 

Look for some of the Cisco/Linksys low-end switches. They're web manageable, 
and work well. 

Mark Levy 
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- Original Message -

From: "Joseph Chambers"  
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List"  
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:25:38 PM 
Subject: [BlueOnyx:12429] Upgrading Switch 

Hello, 

I'm looking at updating my switch which you can see here: 
http://cl.ly/image/2y3R2y0U2T0b - that is a 100 base non managed 16 port switch 
which was cheap non brand I bought in a hurry. However; I have a opportunity to 
buy a Cisco Catalyst WSC2948G fairly cheap. Do you guys suggest that switch? 
Would I get better performance? What switch would you suggest that I could get 
under 200? Are managed switches slower then non managed? I know this has 
nothing to do with BlueOynx but I don't know who else to ask. 

Thanks in advance. 

Joseph 
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[BlueOnyx:12432] Re: Upgrading Switch

2013-03-05 Thread Mark E. Levy
NOT THE 2948G. Like I said, I had one of these and it most definitely wasn't 
running ios.

Mark E. Levy
Sent from my iPad, please excuse any typos


On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, "Chuck Tetlow"  wrote:

> What are you talking about Mark?  The 2900 series was the first to use a 
> command-line IOS-like configuration.  And they'll outperform the low-end 
> switches any day. 
> 
> I've installed and configured dozens of those switches.  I've even got one 
> here in my house to distribute the cable modem connection.  And since its 
> managed, I use a Linux machine with MRTG to poll the switch every five 
> minutes for port statistics - and I can see who the bandwidth hogs are behind 
> the switch. 
> 
> 
> BTW - only the last of the 2900 series switches included POE (just before 
> Cisco discontinued them).   I think the 2960 was the only one.  So check the 
> Cisco website before you buy one - and you won't be surprised when it doesn't 
> do what you need it to do. 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --- 
> From: "Mark E. Levy"  
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List  
> Sent: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:00:54 -0600 (CST) 
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:12430] Re: Upgrading Switch 
> 
> > *I* would not recommend the Cisco 2948. That model uses the Catalyst O/S, 
> > NOT IOS. Those switches are cheap because while they purport to be POE, you 
> > must use non-standard cables. There are tons of them out there. I, too was 
> > lured by the cheap price and bought one, and ended up taking it on a long 
> > voyage to the computer junkyard very shortly thereafter. It's a boat 
> > anchor. 
> > 
> > Look for some of the Cisco/Linksys low-end switches. They're web 
> > manageable, and work well. 
> > 
> > Mark Levy 
> > ETA 
> > 
> >
> 
> > From: "Joseph Chambers"  
> > To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List"  
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:25:38 PM 
> > Subject: [BlueOnyx:12429]  Upgrading Switch 
> > 
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > I'm looking at updating my switch which you can see here: 
> > http://cl.ly/image/2y3R2y0U2T0b - that is a 100 base non managed 16 port 
> > switch which was cheap non brand I bought in a hurry. However; I have a 
> > opportunity to buy a Cisco Catalyst WSC2948G fairly cheap. Do you guys 
> > suggest that switch? Would I get better performance? What switch would you 
> > suggest that I could get under 200? Are managed switches slower then non 
> > managed? I know this has nothing to do with BlueOynx but I don't know who 
> > else to ask. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance. 
> > 
> > Joseph 
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[BlueOnyx:12494] Re: Upgrading Switch

2013-03-08 Thread Mark E. Levy
IIRC, there was a company called Catalyst that Cisco bought. CATOS was not 
native Cisco. 

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From: "Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet"  
To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List"  
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:56:22 AM 
Subject: [BlueOnyx:12493] Re: Upgrading Switch 

I've been staying away from this thread as long as I could. ;) 

When we built our datacenter and our satellite POPs, we did so with 
Cisco infrastructure. We come from back in the day when 7507 routers 
and 5513 switches were state-of-the-art. That's when we first became 
responsible for managing our own infrastructure. Of course, we have 
progressed a long way since those times. 

Personally, I can get around in IOS and CatOS. CatOS got a real bad 
rap, and I think it was a mistake to create something with a different 
syntax. Obviously, Cisco agreed and later killed CatOS off. But we 
still have some devices that are running it. We have a handful of 
Catalyst5505's still doing duty, and they've logged THOUSANDS of days of 
continuous uptime. 

The "real" Cisco gear works, works well, is utterly reliable and, like 
it or not, is the industry standard by which all others are judged. 
You'll always notice that when comparisons are made, it's always with a 
Cisco as a reference point. I'm not saying there are not other great 
manufacturers. There certainly are, and other vendors have a bunch of 
good things that recommend them. But for us, we have no reason to 
change our infrastructure & network backbone. 

When it comes to making recommendations for customer equipment, I always 
say you won't be "wrong" for choosing Cisco. That's always a right 
answer. Not the only right answer, mind you. But you won't be wrong. 

Just make sure that if you do go Cisco, it's "real" Cisco. That 
Linksys stuff that's branded Cisco... what a mistake that was. Chances 
are, if your Cisco is blue/green, you're good to go. If it's black, 
take it back! 

I don't sell the equipment, and I honestly don't have any interest if 
you buy any particular brand. But if you ask me my experience, and what 
I see that customers bring in and what works vs. what doesn't? Well, 
here's a sampling: 

Cisco: If it's "real", it's going to work. We can even help you config it. 

Cisco-branded Linksys: Nope. Not worth it. In my view, it's overpriced 
junk. 

Juniper: Seems to be solid. 

HP ProCurve: I can count on one finger the problems I have seen with them. 

Dell PowerConnect: Run, do not walk, from this garbage as fast as you 
can. It has pseudo-management that theoretically allows you to divide 
into VLANs, but offers no SNMP whatsoever? And no proper CLI? What's 
up with that? Junk. 

Dell ProConnect: Seems OK for low traffic (ie: anything under 20Mbps to 
the gateway). Will lock up much past that, and is utterly incapable of 
handling wirespeed on more than 4 ports. 

Dlink: Surprisingly solid. I had my doubts, and the CLI is a little 
odd, but I think that's more a matter of familiarity. 

And then there's all the unmanaged stuff. For me, most of that all 
sort of runs together. We have customers that I know paid $200 for an 
unmanaged 24-port GigE switch from Netgear or similar, and they're only 
using 4 ports. We've put in off-brand 5-port GigE switches that cost 
less than $40 for other customers and they've gotten the same kind of 
results. 

As far as the OP's question goes, you can find some Cisco 3550's for not 
a lot of money on ebay these days. And 2924's are practically free 
these days. Yes, they're old, but they'll still be running after I'm 
gone from this Earth. I'd probably head in one of those directions. 

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Chris Gebhardt 
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[BlueOnyx:12575] Re: Pricing!!!

2013-03-18 Thread Mark E. Levy
Hey, I remember when a T1 cost almost that much!!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet  wrote:

On 3/18/2013 5:35 PM, Rickard Osser wrote:
> Hi Blues,
>
> I just needed to get this of my chest!
>
>
> We're in the process of getting offers for a new connection to the all
> mighty network we all know as Internet.
>
> The last offer sent to me today is US $1030/month, no installation cost,
> excluding VAT (Sales tax). We actually got virtually the same offer from
> 2 different companies. We can use the line for whatever we want,
> including hosting and selling access. This is a business line...
>
> What speed are you all wondering?
>
>
>
>
>
> A whopping 1Gbit/s...
>
>

That could be much, much worse.   But still, I understand the pain. 
That's roughly twice what we would charge for a similar connection, 
except we're using 4 different carriers and 4 diverse physical paths so 
if one (or two, or three) carriers take an outage, you're still online.

Of course, that's delivered to our datacenter, and not delivered 
externally.

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