Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi

1) +1
2) +1

regards
Olivier

2011/7/18 André Schnabel 

> Hi,
>
> this topic has already been discussed here at the list and briefly in our
> last SC call. But there is no formal decision yet.
>
> To keep the MC operational during the next weeks, I proposed some changes
> (approve all current deputies as full members, MC will take decisions
> consensus with a needed quorum of 2/3rd). My proposal to add David Emmerich
> Jourdain did not get consensus (while the other two items seemd to have
> this) - so I'd skipp this part for now.
>
> Please also note, that this changes would be temporary, as we will have to
> re-elect the MC soon after BoD-elections.
>
> So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to vote on following two items:
>
> 1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the MC
> will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André
> Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws  )
>
> 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a
> needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members).
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> André
>
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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1 to both points.

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee

[Italo Vignoli]

On 7/18/11 7:33 PM, André Schnabel wrote:

> 1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the MC
> will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André
> Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws  )

+1

> 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a
> needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members).

+1

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[Italo Vignoli]

On 7/18/11 7:22 PM, André Schnabel wrote:

> It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of
> a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the
> risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be
> the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible.

+1

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[André Schnabel]

Hi Olivier,

so somewone should find a better wording, maybe discuss this again 
within the SC and then call for a vote.


regards,

André

Am 18.07.2011 20:01, schrieb Olivier Hallot:

Hi André

The wording does not let it clear if MSWindows screenshots are to be used or
not ("legal risk", "deemed low risk", "should be", "possible").

Olivier

2011/7/18 André Schnabel


Hi,

Am 18.07.2011 19:30, schrieb Olivier Hallot:

  Hi

my vote is to use MS Windows screenshots, for windows-only situations (as
in
the install)


Well .. that would be quite hard to document as a formal decision.

Do you actually agree on the wording we have in the meeting minutes or do
we need further discussion?


Regards,

André

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee

[André Schnabel]

so my vote ..

Am 18.07.2011 19:33, schrieb André Schnabel:


So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to vote on following two items:

1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the 
MC will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, 
André Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws  )


+1



2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with 
a needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members).


+1

André

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[steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] wikipedia

[David Nelson]

Hi Tom,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> I found a page about Calc in Wikipedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Calc
> but it's heavily branded as the OpenOffice version.  Writer has 2 pages.  One
> for OpenOffice and 1 for LibreOffice.
>
> Would it be better to move towards having just 1 page for each application and
> then link to OpenOffice, LibreOffice or NeoOffice when appropriate?  Specific
> pages such as the OpenOffice Calc page could then be extremely short and very
> specific since most of the stuff would already be either in  the main
> cross-product page for Calc or in Apache's documentation?
>
> I imagine each of the 2 lists will diverge in particular points but i don't
> think everything needs to be repeated on both lists.
> Regards from
> Tom :)

My humble 2 cents would be that there should be an equivalent page to
this one that covers LibreOffice Calc alone. I know that people often
seem to refer to LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org as kind-of twin
products, but I'm betting that this will be less and less the case as
time goes by and differences between them accumulate.

Would someone (maybe yourself?) feel like tackling that task on Wikipedia?

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[David Nelson]

Hi,

My apologies for interrupting an SC vote in progress, but I feel the
motion itself is somewhat ambiguous... Either screenshots taken under
Windows are allowed or else they're not, but it leaves room for a lot
of unfair twisting if (in the event that the ultimate decision was a
"+1") you have this "caveat" that "screenshots on GNU/Linux should be
the default ones".

May I put it to the SC that it would be better in the motion was
"Screenshots for documentation, web graphics and marketing materials
for LibreOffice and TDF may be taken on any computing platform,
notably Linux, but also Windows, Macintosh and other operating systems
and graphical user interfaces."

This would be unambiguous and unequivocal...

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi André

The wording does not let it clear if MSWindows screenshots are to be used or
not ("legal risk", "deemed low risk", "should be", "possible").

Olivier

2011/7/18 André Schnabel 

> Hi,
>
> Am 18.07.2011 19:30, schrieb Olivier Hallot:
>
>  Hi
>> my vote is to use MS Windows screenshots, for windows-only situations (as
>> in
>> the install)
>>
>
> Well .. that would be quite hard to document as a formal decision.
>
> Do you actually agree on the wording we have in the meeting minutes or do
> we need further discussion?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> André
>
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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[André Schnabel]

Hi,

Am 18.07.2011 19:30, schrieb Olivier Hallot:

Hi
my vote is to use MS Windows screenshots, for windows-only situations (as in
the install)


Well .. that would be quite hard to document as a formal decision.

Do you actually agree on the wording we have in the meeting minutes or 
do we need further discussion?


Regards,

André

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[steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee

[André Schnabel]

Hi,

this topic has already been discussed here at the list and briefly in 
our last SC call. But there is no formal decision yet.


To keep the MC operational during the next weeks, I proposed some 
changes (approve all current deputies as full members, MC will take 
decisions consensus with a needed quorum of 2/3rd). My proposal to add 
David Emmerich Jourdain did not get consensus (while the other two items 
seemd to have this) - so I'd skipp this part for now.


Please also note, that this changes would be temporary, as we will have 
to re-elect the MC soon after BoD-elections.


So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to vote on following two items:

1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the MC 
will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André 
Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws  )


2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a 
needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members).



Thanks and regards,

André

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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi
my vote is to use MS Windows screenshots, for windows-only situations (as in
the install)
Thanks and regards

2011/7/18 André Schnabel 

> Hi,
>
> in our latest SC-Call we discussed the issue about taking and publishing
> Screenshots on windows. As we had no quorum in the call, I'd ask every SC
> member / deputy to vote on the statement we agreed in the call.
>
> The statement is:
>
> It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of a
> legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the risk is
> deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be the default
> ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible.
>
>
> Meeting minutes are at:
> http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/TDF/**Steering_Committee_Meetings#**
> Minutes_2011-07-13
>
> regards,
>
> André
>
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Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[André Schnabel]

So .. casting my vote

Am 18.07.2011 19:22, schrieb André Schnabel:

The statement is:

It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence 
of a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but 
the risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux 
should be the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible.



+1

André

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[steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

[André Schnabel]

Hi,

in our latest SC-Call we discussed the issue about taking and publishing 
Screenshots on windows. As we had no quorum in the call, I'd ask every 
SC member / deputy to vote on the statement we agreed in the call.


The statement is:

It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of 
a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the 
risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be 
the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible.



Meeting minutes are at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-07-13

regards,

André

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[steering-discuss] wikipedia

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I found a page about Calc in Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Calc
but it's heavily branded as the OpenOffice version.  Writer has 2 pages.  One 
for OpenOffice and 1 for LibreOffice.

Would it be better to move towards having just 1 page for each application and 
then link to OpenOffice, LibreOffice or NeoOffice when appropriate?  Specific 
pages such as the OpenOffice Calc page could then be extremely short and very 
specific since most of the stuff would already be either in  the main 
cross-product page for Calc or in Apache's documentation?

I imagine each of the 2 lists will diverge in particular points but i don't 
think everything needs to be repeated on both lists.
Regards from
Tom :)

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