Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request
Hi, Alexander Thurgood wrote on 2011-07-30 20:14: Assuming that the TM_is_ actually registered in the name of TDF, then yes, this is OK. legally, the German association Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the current trademark holder, as TDF doesn't exist as legal entity yet. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting
Hi, Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-07-29 19:07: I don't disagree that, based on the agenda and participants, it would make more sens, but then why didn't you put the initial budget proposal in front of the TDF SC rather than the 'German Association' board ? the initial funding was an offer by the German association, like we fund many other events in Germany, so there was initially no need to discuss it with the SC. However, after seeing that we need more money, and thinking about it again, I thought it made more sense to take all money from the TDF account, out of the reasons outlined. (anyway, my quibbling was triggered by the notion that one should translate German minutes of another association to be informed on what is going on at TDF :-) ) No. :-) The problem is that FrODeV and TDF are legally the same entity, but both have their own topics on the agenda, which makes things a bit complicated until TDF is an own entity. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request
Le 31/07/11 10:21, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, legally, the German association Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the current trademark holder, as TDF doesn't exist as legal entity yet. Ideally then, reference should be made to the FOD Verein and not to TDF. Not mentioning the name of the rights holder at all opens the person who publicises such a mark on their product to allegations of fraud, trademark infringement, and false assertion of rights (jurisdiction dependent as always of course), including via third parties (i.e. it doesn't require TDF to take positive action). Trademark law can be a real pain at times :-)). In general, this is relatively low risk stuff. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request
Hi :) Thanks Alex. It's always good to hear the legal fact rather than the rest of us just guessing at what seems reasonable. Presumably the org has to be spelled out in full? Can it say on behalf of TDF? Something like The LibreOffice trademark is registered to Freies Office Deutschland Verein on behalf of The Document Foundation. ? For some reason your post arrived in my inbox a long long time after it normally 'should' have done. I think it's my @#a! email client as it has happened to a few other posts too but i am still not happy with the idea of changing it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sun, 31 July, 2011 11:03:50 Subject: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request Le 31/07/11 10:21, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, legally, the German association Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the current trademark holder, as TDF doesn't exist as legal entity yet. Ideally then, reference should be made to the FOD Verein and not to TDF. Not mentioning the name of the rights holder at all opens the person who publicises such a mark on their product to allegations of fraud, trademark infringement, and false assertion of rights (jurisdiction dependent as always of course), including via third parties (i.e. it doesn't require TDF to take positive action). Trademark law can be a real pain at times :-)). In general, this is relatively low risk stuff. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote on 2011-07-31 12:03: Ideally then, reference should be made to the FOD Verein and not to TDF. Not mentioning the name of the rights holder at all opens the person who publicises such a mark on their product to allegations of fraud, trademark infringement, and false assertion of rights (jurisdiction dependent as always of course), including via third parties (i.e. it doesn't require TDF to take positive action). Trademark law can be a real pain at times :-)). In general, this is relatively low risk stuff. hmmm... do I get it right that not mentioning any trademark protection is better than mentioning that a mark is protected, but not naming the registrant? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting
Hi, I've no particular opinion about the funding, but I did regret having missed the opportunity to have met the project's sysadmins, and I was disappointed that it was a thing not decided with the knowledge and possible involvement of the international community of web resource contributors, but with only discussion between German members. While I recognize that there are many German sysadmins in the project, I do hope that it's not going to become a habit that things be organized purely between them, because there are actually other people working on webby things. Please do remember the spirit and intentions of the Community Bylaws. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
