[board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

like last year, the admin team of TDF would like to gather for an 
internal meeting, in order to discuss and work on important topics, such 
as virtualiziation, HA/failover, system upgrade and such.


Last year, we met in Munich's Café Netzwerk, and this year, we have an 
offer to stay in the LinuxHotel in Essen (http://www.linuxhotel.de), a 
very attracting place for geeks. ;-)


The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping 
in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be 
around 840 € for whole weekend.


What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and 
would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, 
excluding travel fees?


Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:34 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> like last year, the admin team of TDF would like to gather for an 
> internal meeting, in order to discuss and work on important topics, such 
> as virtualiziation, HA/failover, system upgrade and such.

Sounds really important.

> Last year, we met in Munich's Café Netzwerk, and this year, we have an 
> offer to stay in the LinuxHotel in Essen (http://www.linuxhotel.de), a 
> very attracting place for geeks. ;-)

Cool.

> The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping 
> in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be 
> around 840 € for whole weekend.

Wow; 840 for 13 of you ? that's amazing - I should move my family there
too.

> What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and 
> would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, 
> excluding travel fees?

+1 for a $1k budget - the sysadmins do some fantastic work, and it
makes perfect sense to get them together; sounds like a bargin to me
[ were you asking for a formal vote ].

ATB,

Michael.

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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including
> sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi,
> would be around 840 € for whole weekend.
> 
> What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful
> and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in
> total, excluding travel fees?
> 
Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as
well?

Cheers,

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The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

2012-05-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd
like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in
accordance with our charitable status.

For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have
audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work.

I'd therefore like the board to approve

 - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR -

for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor.

Regards,

-- 
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The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

2012-05-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

+1, and thanks for your work on this!

Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-05-21 17:08:

I'd therefore like the board to approve

  - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR -

for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor.


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Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108
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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-05-21 16:59:

Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as
well?


to Michael's question: LinuxHotel offers real outstanding prices for 
communities, that's why it is so affordable. :-) And yes, I'd like to 
have a poll on that, until we have fixed some budgets, just so it is 
formally correct.


To your question, Thorsten: Either we do it separately, with our travel 
refund policy, or we do it specifically for that event.


Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

2012-05-21 Thread Olivier Hallot
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+1. Important, for sure.

Em 21-05-2012 12:08, Thorsten Behrens escreveu:
> Hi there,
> 
> for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd
> like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in
> accordance with our charitable status.
> 
> For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have
> audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work.
> 
> I'd therefore like the board to approve
> 
>  - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR -
> 
> for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor.
> 
> Regards,
> 

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The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Mon, 21 May 2012 16:59:18 +0200,
Thorsten Behrens  a écrit :

> Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including
> > sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi,
> > would be around 840 € for whole weekend.
> > 
> > What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful
> > and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in
> > total, excluding travel fees?
> > 
> Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as
> well?
> 
> Cheers,
> 

Agreed from my side...

Best,
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Co-founder & Director, The Document Foundation,
Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.


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Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

2012-05-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
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+1 from my side.

Charles. 

Le Mon, 21 May 2012 12:34:37 -0300,
Olivier Hallot  a écrit :

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> +1. Important, for sure.
> 
> Em 21-05-2012 12:08, Thorsten Behrens escreveu:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd
> > like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in
> > accordance with our charitable status.
> > 
> > For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have
> > audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work.
> > 
> > I'd therefore like the board to approve
> > 
> >  - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR -
> > 
> > for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> 
> - -- 
> Olivier Hallot
> Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation
> The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
> Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil
> Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
> LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese
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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

2012-05-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-05-21 19:25:

OK for the meeting expenses.


+1 from my side as well, since I missed voting so far. ;-)


Can we get a report of the achievements?


Of course!

Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 17:08 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd
> like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in
> accordance with our charitable status.
...
> For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have
> audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work.

That is a phenomenal expense. I feel rather unhappy spending this much
money without really getting to the bottom of whether it is truly
necessary.

I'd like to defer this until after the LinuxTag / 3.5.4 release rush to
have some more reading time, and until we've discussed this again
interactively in view of the sum.

So -1 (for now).

Thanks,

Michael.

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