Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling

2021-05-30 Thread Uwe Altmann

HI

Am 29.05.21 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Mantke:

what about the payment for drawing the specifications
paper? Is this done on a voluntary base like other public available
documents / tender specifications in the project?


Yes. It was done by me on a voluntary base.
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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Access To Membership Data (was: Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling)

2021-05-30 Thread Uwe Altmann

Hi Andreas

Am 29.05.21 um 08:49 schrieb Andreas Mantke:
could you please explain who have and who should have access to the 
membership data (old tooling and new tooling) please...I found nothing

about this in the detailed specifications for the tender.


First of all: This tender is based on a software specification and not on a 
description of the working processes of the MC.  The latter are just 
subject as far as it seems necessary to describe the needed software 
functionality.


And this list thread should hold on that tender. Feel free to open another 
thread for anything else.


You did nothing find on data access in the specs because you obviously read 
only some few pages. In short: Regulating data access is not a function of 
the tendered software but in fact a function of granting access to it by 
our SSO solution. You find that described at page 14 of the specs - 
including the information who is intended to be able to access the software 
and thereby the data.

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Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling

2021-05-30 Thread Uwe Altmann

Hi
Am 29.05.21 um 18:31 schrieb Andreas Mantke:

Interesting to read in the specifications document about a self hosted
Captcha but without pointing to an example for such solution.


You embezzled the "i.e." just before that. It was meant to illustrate the 
idea, not to describe or define a specific intended solution.



I'm curious about a working self hosted Captcha provider.


Me too :-)
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Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling

2021-05-30 Thread Guilhem Moulin
On Sun, 30 May 2021 at 12:11:31 +0200, Uwe Altmann wrote:
> Am 29.05.21 um 18:31 schrieb Andreas Mantke:
>> Interesting to read in the specifications document about a self hosted
>> Captcha but without pointing to an example for such solution.
> 
> You embezzled the "i.e." just before that. It was meant to illustrate the
> idea, not to describe or define a specific intended solution.

You want “e.g.” then not “i.e.”.  The latter isn't a replacement for
“for instance”, it stands for “id est” (“that *is*”).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(I)#id_est

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Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling

2021-05-30 Thread Uwe Altmann

Hello Guilhem

Am 30.05.21 um 12:26 schrieb Guilhem Moulin:

You want “e.g.” then not “i.e.”.  The latter isn't a replacement for
“for instance”, it stands for “id est” (“that *is*”).
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#e.g.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(I)#id_est 


Thanks for the hint. I use(d) it as abbreviation for "in example" - but 
indeed, for the better educated of us it surely is misleading :-)
So indeed, it was meant as an example to illustrate something, not to 
emphasize something. I'll correct the specs accordingly.

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Re: [board-discuss] Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling

2021-05-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi,

Am 30.05.21 um 12:11 schrieb Uwe Altmann:
> Hi
> Am 29.05.21 um 18:31 schrieb Andreas Mantke:
>> Interesting to read in the specifications document about a self hosted
>> Captcha but without pointing to an example for such solution.
>
> You embezzled the "i.e." just before that. It was meant to illustrate
> the idea, not to describe or define a specific intended solution.
>
>> I'm curious about a working self hosted Captcha provider.
>
> Me too :-)

would be great, if someone could shed some light on this. Is there
already a captcha provider available which could be self hosted. I
searched for such option, but with no result.

If there are nothing available yet, it is necessary to look for a
working solution / a captcha provider, which should be included into the
forms (in accordance with the GDPR).

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Access To Membership Data

2021-05-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Uwe, all,

Am 30.05.21 um 12:04 schrieb Uwe Altmann:
> Hi Andreas
>
> Am 29.05.21 um 08:49 schrieb Andreas Mantke:
>> could you please explain who have and who should have access to the
>> membership data (old tooling and new tooling) please...I found nothing
>> about this in the detailed specifications for the tender.
>
> First of all: This tender is based on a software specification and not
> on a description of the working processes of the MC.  The latter are
> just subject as far as it seems necessary to describe the needed
> software functionality.
>
> And this list thread should hold on that tender. Feel free to open
> another thread for anything else.
I already opened a new thread. I changed the subject of this thread (in
accordance to the usual way I know for mailing lists).
>
> You did nothing find on data access in the specs because you obviously
> read only some few pages. In short: Regulating data access is not a
> function of the tendered software but in fact a function of granting
> access to it by our SSO solution. You find that described at page 14
> of the specs - including the information who is intended to be able to
> access the software and thereby the data.

OK, got it now.

Have you already compared the details of meetings and decision making
for the board and the MC in the statutes. There are differences which
need to be considered for the access and the processing of the personal
data (of members and applicants).

Regards,
Andreas

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