Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
On 28.04.22 20:27, Andreas Mantke wrote: The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem... In case of the ESC we should prefer expertise over diversity. It's not a panel to make balanced decisions- and the (diverse) board is supervising anyway. We could also seek for more female or non-male contribution, people from Africa, etc. And we do! -- Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 20:27 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote: > it may be good to know why there are the need for two members from > one ecosystem company? Has no other individual contributors or > ecosystem system members shown interest to participate in the ESC? > > The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem and the > interests of its members (individual and organizations). Thus every > organization (aside maybe from TDF) should only hold one seat in the > ESC. The text of proposed changes is a diff against the current list available in the link at the top of the original mail, just in case the text reads as if the proposed changes are the full ESC complement. There is (and here proposed to still be) 5 TDF employees, 5 Collabora, 3 allotropia, 3 Red Hat and 6 other Individual or single company employees on the ESC giving IMO a fairly broad representation of ESC-relevant skills and insights. I wouldn't welcome dropping 8 (or 12) members and lose out on that. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Hi all, Am 28.04.22 um 13:14 schrieb Stephan Ficht: (...) 2. Discuss & vote: Update ESC composition (Kendy, 5 mins) The ESC has agreed to update its current composition: https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/ this way: Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual) → Vasily Melenchuk (CIB) Andras Timar (Collabora) → Luboš Luňák (Collabora) Michael Meeks (Collabora) → Tomaž Vajngerl (Collabora) Olivier Hallot (TDF) → Ilmari Lauhakangas (TDF) Sophie Gautier (TDF) → Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) Katarína Behrens (Individual) → Andreas Heinisch (Individual) There is one swap of an individual contributor to a corporate contributor, but it is the only CIB person on the list, so the corporate affiliation rule still stays maintained. The ESC kindly asks the Board to approve this change. it may be good to know why there are the need for two members from one ecosystem company? Has no other individual contributors or ecosystem system members shown interest to participate in the ESC? The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem and the interests of its members (individual and organizations). Thus every organization (aside maybe from TDF) should only hold one seat in the ESC. Regards, Andreas -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Dear Community, find below the agenda for our * TDF board meeting with a public part and followed by a private part on Monday, May 2nd at 1600 UTC / 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2) at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard For time zone conversion, see e.g. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20220502T18&p1=37&p2=49&p3=107 ## AGENDA: ### Public Part 1. Q&A: Answering questions from the community (all, 10 mins) Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF 2. Discuss & vote: Update ESC composition (Kendy, 5 mins) The ESC has agreed to update its current composition: https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/ this way: Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual) → Vasily Melenchuk (CIB) Andras Timar (Collabora) → Luboš Luňák (Collabora) Michael Meeks (Collabora) → Tomaž Vajngerl (Collabora) Olivier Hallot (TDF) → Ilmari Lauhakangas (TDF) Sophie Gautier (TDF) → Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) Katarína Behrens (Individual) → Andreas Heinisch (Individual) There is one swap of an individual contributor to a corporate contributor, but it is the only CIB person on the list, so the corporate affiliation rule still stays maintained. The ESC kindly asks the Board to approve this change. 3. Status report & discuss: board strategy workshop (Florian, Stephan, 10 mins) ### Private part 4. Discuss & reports: board oversight groups (Thorsten, all 20 mins) Reason for privacy: HR, tax and legal topics. First quarter for the new board is up, so let's hear reports from the various oversight groups. 5. Discuss: Last minute item(s) (owner of the item, all 10 mins) Rationale: if there is time left, and anything is popping up after sending the agenda -- Stephan Ficht, Administrative Assistant Tel: +49 30 5557992-64 | Mail: stephan.fi...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] certification list issue ?
Hi there, On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:42:08 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: >Good point; Muhammet moved on to do new things from August 31st 2021 >[…] >We should prolly tweak domain-map AFAICT gitdm accurately reflect Muhammet's affiliation no? https://git.libreoffice.org/gitdm-config/+/master/domain-map/#174 On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 15:38:35 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote: > If I don't overlooked it, his Collabora email address is not listed on > the LibreOffice git page, you linked in a former post: > https://git.libreoffice.org/gitdm-config/+/refs/heads/master/domain-map It doesn't need to since it's covered by the domain fallback (@collabora.com → Collabora). Lookup keys are pairs (commit author email, commit author date) not mere email addresses, so as long as Muhammet doesn't make more commits with his @collabora.com address there is no need to update the affiliation database. -- Guilhem. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [board-discuss] certification list issue ?
Hi Andreas, On 14/04/2022 14:38, Andreas Mantke wrote: On 09/04/2022 13:17, Andreas Mantke wrote: > https://www.documentfoundation.org/gethelp/developers/ you see ...>> > And if you make a small research inside the git log, you'll find out > that the list at the website is not up to date. There seemed to be > further certified developers, stated as unaffiliated, which are > working for the company (with an appropriate account). Which you seemed to avoid substantiating too. I would really appreciate you either clarifying and reporting something actionable there, or withdrawing this statement which seems to suggest something underhand is going on when it is not. If you look into the git log you find the developer email: muhammet.k...@collabora.com Thanks for reporting this - it is really easy to put it to rest. You'll see the last commit to core from 2021 like this: Author: Muhammet Kara Date: Sun Aug 22 03:24:25 2021 +0300 Was his contract with Collabora canceled recently? If I don't overlooked it, his Collabora email address is not listed on the LibreOffice git page, you linked in a former post: https://git.libreoffice.org/gitdm-config/+/refs/heads/master/domain-map Good point; Muhammet moved on to do new things from August 31st 2021 (~9 months ago) - I believe he notified people of that and the developers page was updated so it is accurate. We should prolly tweak domain-map as you say but it's not hyper-urgent, worst case we may double count people vs. a commit with a new address - do submit a patch if you like. You mentioned "further developer/s/ stated as unaffiliated" - anyone else there ? it's good to put any uncertainty and doubt to rest here. Regards, Michael. -- michael.me...@collabora.com <><, GM Collabora Productivity Hangout: mejme...@gmail.com, Skype: mmeeks (M) +44 7795 666 147 - timezone usually UK / Europe -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
