Re: Some Questions On Decision Making (was: Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Re: [Vote] hiring external communication expert)
Hi Cor, if there is a clear description of the task it shouldn't be an issue to make that public at least to the TDF members. And it would also be of interest which consultancy firms you have contacted. Why have you only contacted those firms, although there are a lot of providers of such offerings on the market? What were the detailed criteria to choose only those firms? Regards, Andreas Am 20.01.23 um 21:47 schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Andreas, Good questions. Yes, we had a clear description of the ask. We had contacted 4 consultancy firms with a summary, of which two seemed best matching. We got offerings from them based on the precise description. Finally we've chosen the one which we expect to be most helpful with checking the process as described and taking (a first) look at the wider communication. The price of the offerings did not differ much. HTH, greetings, Cor PS. For me it is not needed to use 'I think the TDF members want to know'. It is OK if you are interested. Andreas Mantke wrote on 20/01/2023 20:23: Hi all, if I look at the price tag of this decision, I' curious if there had been a complete task description done in writing before the decision. And I also think the community and especially the TDF members want to know if there had been a tender with the task description in front of the decision. Had there been done a market analysis / a comparison of cost before the decision? I'd like to note that TDF is a tax-exempt charity, running on donation money. Regards, Andreas Am 20.01.23 um 19:00 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, the following decision, which was taken in private on 2022-12-22, is now made public in accordance with our statutes. Cor Nouws wrote on 17/12/2022 11:59: Hello all, Another topic on which we need to make progress urgently IMO. Not only to check the handling, impartiality and objectivity of the CoC case against Paolo, but also get (a first?) external advise on our communication etc. From the comments on the topic - thanks! - there is a clear preference to go with the offering from Central Consultancy & Training. And since we're voting anyway, please cast your vote (+1/-1/0) for this one too by **Monday, 17:00 UTC / 18:00 Berlin time**. –-%<-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-– The board resolves: * Accept the offering from Central Consultancy & Training to execute 'Review handling CoC complaint against board member' as decided on October 17 2022 * As can be found here [redacted, internal link] * The cost for TDF are approx. 14.000 € The vote runs 54h from now. The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote. The vote is quorate. A quorum could be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes. Result of vote: 5 approvals, 0 abstains, 2 disapprovals. Also one deputy supports the motion. -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Some Questions On Decision Making (was: Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Re: [Vote] hiring external communication expert)
Hi Andreas, Good questions. Yes, we had a clear description of the ask. We had contacted 4 consultancy firms with a summary, of which two seemed best matching. We got offerings from them based on the precise description. Finally we've chosen the one which we expect to be most helpful with checking the process as described and taking (a first) look at the wider communication. The price of the offerings did not differ much. HTH, greetings, Cor PS. For me it is not needed to use 'I think the TDF members want to know'. It is OK if you are interested. Andreas Mantke wrote on 20/01/2023 20:23: Hi all, if I look at the price tag of this decision, I' curious if there had been a complete task description done in writing before the decision. And I also think the community and especially the TDF members want to know if there had been a tender with the task description in front of the decision. Had there been done a market analysis / a comparison of cost before the decision? I'd like to note that TDF is a tax-exempt charity, running on donation money. Regards, Andreas Am 20.01.23 um 19:00 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, the following decision, which was taken in private on 2022-12-22, is now made public in accordance with our statutes. Cor Nouws wrote on 17/12/2022 11:59: Hello all, Another topic on which we need to make progress urgently IMO. Not only to check the handling, impartiality and objectivity of the CoC case against Paolo, but also get (a first?) external advise on our communication etc. From the comments on the topic - thanks! - there is a clear preference to go with the offering from Central Consultancy & Training. And since we're voting anyway, please cast your vote (+1/-1/0) for this one too by **Monday, 17:00 UTC / 18:00 Berlin time**. –-%<-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-– The board resolves: * Accept the offering from Central Consultancy & Training to execute 'Review handling CoC complaint against board member' as decided on October 17 2022 * As can be found here [redacted, internal link] * The cost for TDF are approx. 14.000 € The vote runs 54h from now. The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote. The vote is quorate. A quorum could be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes. Result of vote: 5 approvals, 0 abstains, 2 disapprovals. Also one deputy supports the motion. -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Cor Nouws, member Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 mobile : +31 (0)6 25 20 7001 skype : cornouws blog: cor4office-nl.blogspot.com jabber : cor4off...@jabber.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Some Questions On Decision Making (was: Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Re: [Vote] hiring external communication expert)
Hi all, if I look at the price tag of this decision, I' curious if there had been a complete task description done in writing before the decision. And I also think the community and especially the TDF members want to know if there had been a tender with the task description in front of the decision. Had there been done a market analysis / a comparison of cost before the decision? I'd like to note that TDF is a tax-exempt charity, running on donation money. Regards, Andreas Am 20.01.23 um 19:00 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, the following decision, which was taken in private on 2022-12-22, is now made public in accordance with our statutes. Cor Nouws wrote on 17/12/2022 11:59: Hello all, Another topic on which we need to make progress urgently IMO. Not only to check the handling, impartiality and objectivity of the CoC case against Paolo, but also get (a first?) external advise on our communication etc. From the comments on the topic - thanks! - there is a clear preference to go with the offering from Central Consultancy & Training. And since we're voting anyway, please cast your vote (+1/-1/0) for this one too by **Monday, 17:00 UTC / 18:00 Berlin time**. –-%<-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-– The board resolves: * Accept the offering from Central Consultancy & Training to execute 'Review handling CoC complaint against board member' as decided on October 17 2022 * As can be found here [redacted, internal link] * The cost for TDF are approx. 14.000 € The vote runs 54h from now. The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote. The vote is quorate. A quorum could be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes. Result of vote: 5 approvals, 0 abstains, 2 disapprovals. Also one deputy supports the motion. -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] [DECISION] Re: [Vote] hiring external communication expert
Hello, the following decision, which was taken in private on 2022-12-22, is now made public in accordance with our statutes. Cor Nouws wrote on 17/12/2022 11:59: Hello all, Another topic on which we need to make progress urgently IMO. Not only to check the handling, impartiality and objectivity of the CoC case against Paolo, but also get (a first?) external advise on our communication etc. From the comments on the topic - thanks! - there is a clear preference to go with the offering from Central Consultancy & Training. And since we're voting anyway, please cast your vote (+1/-1/0) for this one too by **Monday, 17:00 UTC / 18:00 Berlin time**. –-%<-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-–-– The board resolves: * Accept the offering from Central Consultancy & Training to execute 'Review handling CoC complaint against board member' as decided on October 17 2022 * As can be found here [redacted, internal link] * The cost for TDF are approx. 14.000 € The vote runs 54h from now. The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote. The vote is quorate. A quorum could be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes. Result of vote: 5 approvals, 0 abstains, 2 disapprovals. Also one deputy supports the motion. -- Florian Effenberger, Executive Director (Geschäftsführer) Tel: +49 30 5557992-50 | Mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, January 23rd, 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)
Dear Community, find below the agenda for our TDF board meeting with a public part, and followed by a private part on Monday, January 23 at 1800 Berlin time at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard For time zone conversion, see e.g. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?p1=37=49=107=20230123T18 ## AGENDA: ### Public Part 1. Answering questions from the community (tdf-board, 5 mins) Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF 2. Status Report: Strategy 2022 Items - Status (Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws, Gabriel Masei, Gabor Kelemen, 5 mins) Regular reporting about status of the Strategic items in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/1129829 3. Discuss, Vote: Decide on BZ request from Ilmari (Gabor Kelemen, 10 mins) * sort remaining issues to be able to release new version * decide today or fold into budget decision? 4. Status Report: Updating CoC policy (Cor Nouws, 5 mins) * status update & next steps 5. Status Report: Hiring TDF developers (Florian Effenberger, 5 mins) * next steps & progress ### Private Part 6. Discuss: Plan FOSDEM in-person agenda (tdf-board, 20 mins) 7. Discuss: Last minute item(s) (tdf-board, 5 mins) Rationale: if there is time left, and anything is popping up after sending the agenda Total scheduled meeting time: 60 mins -- Florian Effenberger, Executive Director (Geschäftsführer) Tel: +49 30 5557992-50 | Mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
