Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, March 20th, 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2023-03-22 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 22.03.23 10:44, Andreas Mantke wrote:

what is the reason for this biting tone of your reply?


Thorsten's reply is not biting, neither I read Cor's question as aggressive why 
you ask. The answer with keeping the show running is reasonable given the 
challenges we face, although a bit pity for the project.


Turning things positively means to not just ask for sake of asking but to give 
ideas how to improve. Something like "it would be good to define milestones for 
the board", ideally with your personal view.



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Re: [board-discuss] [NO DECISION] TDF to change composition of legal oversight group

2022-09-13 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 13.09.22 17:07, Andreas Mantke wrote:

It shows that there is no will of cooperation...


Don't paint it black. We are all humans, there is a conference ahead, and at 
least one has sick children at home.


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Re: [board-discuss] [NO DECISION] TDF to change composition of legal oversight group

2022-09-13 Thread Heiko Tietze

Hello,

I wonder what it means when only two directors vote on a proposal. Is the topic 
not relevant, do people abstain because of conflicts, is there silent 
disagreement...


Cheers,
Heiko

On 13.09.22 13:26, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello,

Emiliano Vavassori wrote on 31.08.22 at 23:46:

We hereby call for the following VOTE, which will start on Thursday, 
2022-09-08 00:00 UTC+2/CEST; it will then run for 72h and thus will end on 
Sunday, 2022-09-11 00:00 UTC+2/CEST.


We hereby make available the draft of an amendment to the Rules of Procedure 
of the Board of Directors (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_rules).


The amendment is to change the internal delegation of responsibilities (“areas 
of oversight”) in § 3 Rules of Procedure only regarding “contracts, legal 
compliance, GDPR, trademarks”.


The members of the legal oversight group regarding “contracts, legal 
compliance, GDPR, trademarks” are Emiliano Vavassori (Deputy Chairperson of 
the Board of Directors) and Paolo Vecchi. All other oversight groups remain 
unchanged.


Members of the Board of Directors who are in conflict shall explicitly declare 
their abstention.


The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders (not 
including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 1/2 or more 
of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4.


A total of 2 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote.

The vote is not quorate.

Florian



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[board-discuss] Tracking user data with Polypoly

2022-07-14 Thread Heiko Tietze
The design team had a talk with people from PP yesterday and I'd like to bring 
this to your attention.


The idea is to integrate this tool in LibreOffice in order to collect usage 
data. So far we only reach out to tech-affine people and base decisions on 
anecdotal guesses. PP stores data locally and evaluates it on demand. While this 
already works for several clients we also pondered over improvements such as 
giving feedback on how the personal behavior compares to the average. Which 
might be of some interest to many users.


There is no immediate action required, but some generic thumbs-up support would 
be appreciated. It's planned to outline the project in a blog post as next step. 
And to bring it to the attention of the ESC.


For more details see the minutes at 
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2022/msg00088.html


Cheers,
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[board-discuss] Re: LibreOffice in app stores free, paid or both?

2022-07-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
Free of charge, IMO. We discuss whether TDF should provide a zero-cost LOOL, so 
how to justify a fee on app stores? And I don't buy the additional effort 
argument. The initial effort has been done anyway.


On 11.07.22 15:52, Paolo Vecchi wrote:

Hi all,

I just wanted to ask the community how they think LibreOffice should be 
published in the various app stores.


Should it be:

a. available at a cost
b. free
c. both

As this is one of the items that will be discussed during tonight's board 
meeting, it would be great to have comments in writing and also having you in 
the meeting to share your point of view.


Ciao

Paolo



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Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree

2022-07-11 Thread Heiko Tietze

-1

LOOL is just a UI flavor to me. It's nothing without the core and provides just 
one way to interact with the application (admittedly some special handling which 
might be important for many).


I understand COOL (and any other implementations) as a win-win situation for 
TDF. If LibreOffice was even more focused on the core application, with for 
example a generic filter for MS Office and the opportunity to replace it with 
some always 100%-compatible alternative, the majority of users is still provided 
with a great office suite and the best document format - free of charge, open 
source, localized in all tongues... By making an application easy to extend we 
allow the ecosystem to grow, attract professional developers to work on the 
application, and (hopefully) make the application more stable (in fact, the 
expandability comes on some costs first).


Collabora offers a free (yet unsupported) version for those who rely on browser 
interaction. From my experience it requires some expertise to set-up the 
environment and it is not suited for individuals anyway. Small and mid size 
companies should afford the IT administration and the subscription which 
includes support.


Keep also in mind that LOOL has not received any major code contribution and is 
now way behind COOL.


PS: I wonder who is addressed by the open letter and the request to vote. Please 
don't undermine the responsibility of the board. On the other hand, I appreciate 
to ask the community for opinions and take it as such.


On 10.07.22 22:42, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
We, the undersigned, would like to express our great concern regarding the 
definitive closure of the repository of what was LibreOffice Online. Considering 
the mission of facilitating access to information and communication technologies 
as a fundamental and strategic achievement of inclusion and exercise of digital 
sovereignty.


As a foundation committed to eliminating the digital divide in society by giving 
everyone free access to office productivity tools, the most important thing is 
to demonstrate that we are committed to offering alternatives to all those 
individuals and organizations that lack the resources to hire corporate services.


We intend with this message, an absolute rethinking of the vote that established 
the current condition of the repository, which belongs to the community and 
should welcome improvements from all over the community, as we consider it goes 
against the objectives outlined by The Document Foundation.


To avoid the process of atticization, as the clock is already ticking, and, at 
the same time, emphasize the global nature of the foundation we urge full 
consideration of the two proposals that have been made so far.


Support Andreas Mantke's effort to revive the LOOL project. Who has already 
succeeded in upgrading the pre-fork code base to current libraries and 
dependencies versions. 
(https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00684.html)
Implement the OxOffice On Line Community Version fork that already has several 
improvements before the LOOL version has been frozen, including those 
implemented in the commercial versions, and bugs fixed by them as they see fit. 
(https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00694.html)


In any case, since this is a community version TDF must show its commitment to 
its core values and do everything in their power to grow LOOL community in order 
to continue development.


Sincerely yours, LibreOffice Community Members and Activists around the world.



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Re: [board-discuss] Collabora Productivity from AppStore - bug reports

2022-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 15.06.22 09:37, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

tdf#147337


Commented on the ticket. The issue (if it's a problem at all) does not depend on 
the packaging/distribution and is clearly not NOTOURBUG.


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Re: AW: [EXTERN]-[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

2022-05-16 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 16.05.22 15:12, Dataport CCO Libre Office wrote:

there was a lady in the German community call last year  it was me = Susanne 
Mohn.


Yes, Susanne! Awesome that you have picked up this thread.


I would be very happy to participate as a reviewer.
An e-mail chain for this is also in the German group- should we continue there?


The tender circulates first among a committee of experts. Since the board of 
directors is apparently happy to be involved in this step, the proposal is being 
discussed on this mailing list.


Cheers,
Heiko


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[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

2022-05-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
I wonder why the other tickets from META bug 139007 are excluded (btw, 
there is kind of duplicate META bug 101912 with a lot more). Bug 149000 
is on hold since you asked UX for input (personally I think Print is 
over-engineering in respect to the workflow). Bug 148971 about the 
non-modal window could also be handled per sidebar deck, which I prefer 
over the modality tweak. An alternative is to insert the issues as 
annotations/comments in the document. On one ticket we discussed the 
help on each issue, could be an infobutton (question mark icon) that 
shows a dialog why this tag is needed and what to do. Three weeks seems 
underestimated if we expect to solve all issues.


Looking at the current UI, I think a bit design work could be 
beneficial. Some issues are rather warnings (eg. Avoid Footnotes) other 
are mandatory (No Alt Text). Perhaps we copy the SEO plugin look and 
feel - or was it the readability checker? - from Wordpress.


As reviewers we could invite Christophe Strobbe who comments a lot on 
these tickets and there was a lady in the German community call last 
year... don't remember her name.


PS: Cannot comment on the NC document.

On 10.05.22 17:36, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello,

one of the approved [1] tenders is the

  Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA

The board would like to work together in public with all of you on 
this tender before it gets officially published. The current draft is 
therefore shared at


https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/WE6tsYjAZietK9q

The board is happy to get your feedback and proposals. We'd like to 
discuss this ideally in the board call on Monday, May 16, at 1800 
Berlin time. Please send your feedback to the public 
board-discuss@documentfoundation.org mailing list. Thanks a lot to all 
community members involved for working on the tender draft!


Looking forward to your feedback,

Olivier

[1] 
https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00400.html


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Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)

2022-04-28 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 28.04.22 20:27, Andreas Mantke wrote:

The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem...


In case of the ESC we should prefer expertise over diversity. It's not a panel 
to make balanced decisions- and the (diverse) board is supervising anyway. We 
could also seek for more female or non-male contribution, people from Africa, 
etc. And we do!


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Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 08.04.22 23:48, Paolo Vecchi wrote:
You may understand that an external observer may not see the procedure as being 
fair and conflict free...


If you take me as an external observer, the opposite is true. Collabora is home 
for many experts, every single one always supportive, and never acted against 
the interests of the project.


In an ideal world we would have volunteers with 20 years knowledge and 100% 
spare time. Unfortunately bills need to be paid and we need to care about the 
ecosystem. At least not to work against them.


But I'm much concerned about the tone in the discussions lately (replying just 
here). I suggest to start with the assumptions that contributing to an open 
source project in general and LibreOffice in particular

* is primarily idealistic and fun,
* has never the goal to destroy the project (neither the power to do so),
* and brings together people with same interests.

All the time and effort you spend in the project shows this and I'm grateful to 
have someone to bring up the painful subjects. We all should consider everyone 
else having the same dedication too.


Cheers,
Heiko


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Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-16 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 15.02.22 17:11, Thorsten Behrens wrote:

...latest reasonably concrete plan around hosting our own
bounty/crowdfunding platform...


An example for zero-overhead-bounties is Lazarus (VCL for Freepascal) 
https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties. Well no overhead means we still 
have to send money, given the (karma) community picks the tasks and decides 
whether it's done.


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Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
To give this discussion another spin: We pondered in the team about hiring a web 
developer. Someone between infra, code, mentoring and design. This person could 
also care about extension development (an area where users can participate in 
the development without knowing C++).


But in any case we are looking for a very special fisherwoman, and the 
experience from the past makes me think she's rather a mermaid than a real person.


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Re: [board-discuss] [DISCUSS] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-11-29 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 26.11.20 11:02, Florian Effenberger wrote:
1. to freeze (not delete) the "online" repository at TDF's git, for the time 
being

+1

1b. to switch the https://github.com/libreoffice/online mirror to instead 
mirror

0 (mirror COOL at LOOL might be confusing for volunteers)
+1 (if we could forward from LOOL to COOL)


2. to freeze (not delete) the translations for online in Weblate

+1/-1

I'm for a clear cut and a complete "outsourcing". What actually changes is the
location of the repository and the label (LOOL becomes COOL). We can bring back
Online at any point in time by "reforking".

Consequently, l10n for COOL would be a different effort. But since most strings
should be the same and translators probably don't want to create everything new,
the best in the interest of the l10n team might be to have some kind of shared
memory, if that's possible.

Nevertheless we should actively support COOL and encourage volunteers to
contribute to both projects. It's a matter of communication and marketing to let
users know that the front-end might be C'bra but it's actually LibreOffice what
they use. Workflow, artwork, look and feel should make users not only home at
both online and desktop but also show what part of the sister projects they are,
for example, reporting bugs.

Some remaining questions:
* How do we handle bug reports (BZ still has Online as project)?
* Will the LibreOffice help done by TDF also cover COOL (likely not)?
* Ask.LO is a convenient place for questions. Do we encourage people to provide
support for COOL there too? Would be hard to stop them, but is this a place for
LibreOffice question that occur when using COOL.
* Will extensions and templates work for both and do we host it?
* What actions do we take or request to make COOL being clearly a LibreOffice
product (need a better term here since it should be the same product and project
too)? For example, the about dialog tells me nothing right now but could be the
same as on desktop.
* Will TDF tender development for Online in the future?
* How do we advertise COOL (and expect the same from C'bra)?
* What are the expectation of C'bra to TDF? Could imagine not to build own LOOL
binaries first of all.


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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-11-29 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 26.11.20 11:02, Florian Effenberger wrote:

1. to freeze (not delete) the "online" repository at TDF's git

+1


1b. to switch the https://github.com/libreoffice/online mirror

0


2. to freeze (not delete) the translations for online in Weblate

0


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Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-10-23

2020-10-28 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 28.10.20 08:29, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Not being accessible does explicitly exclude LIbre Office...

Accessibility is and was always in our focus [1,2]. For example, TDF tendered
the accessibility checker [3], and every build tests now changes to the UI
against a11y basics [4].

What exactly are you missing? We have 190 tickets with the keyword in our
bugtracker [5], but not all are crucial. You are very welcome to keep an eye on
these issues and discuss it with the design team [6] and the developers.

[1] https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/accessibility/
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility/Accessibility-dev
[3]
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/05/07/welcome-gla11y-the-user-interface-accessibility-checker/
[4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Accessibility
[5]
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=accessibility=---
[6] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design




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Re: [board-discuss] Some problems.

2020-07-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 07.07.20 22:13, Michael Meeks wrote:
> ...
>   => so it makes no economic sense at all to invest in
>  -Desktop- Libreoffice you will never see a return.
> 
>   That is manageable - we are investing heavily in creating
> Online and that is going well, and it funds our work on LibreOffice.

I highly value expertise and would never object marketing. But this 
differentiation between Personal and Enterprise seems barely to be a solution.

So just to put this option on the table: Remove Online from the LibreOffice zoo 
and make it a commercial product.

Good thing on this Personal Edition kerfuffle is that people discuss the 
marketing strategy. I suggest to keep listening and postpone any modification 
for 7.1. We run out of time to revert the PE patch.



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Re: [board-discuss] Designing a poll on LOOL usage patterns & needs (was: LOOL user experience)

2020-05-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
Both are fine for me. And the questions are mostly what Sam suggested with open 
responses. 

On 26.05.20 15:39, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> How would you like to get feedback for that document - direct edits or
> comments, or discuss here?
> 
> I personally liked Sam's suggestion, perhaps we can tweak more of the
> existing questions that way (e.g. on question 2, prefix that with a
> question on whether/where the participant got his last VPS / nextcloud
> / wordpress / bare-metal server setup)?



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Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
Always good to have bike-shedding questions in such a list ;-). First, we have 
to agree on such a survey including what exactly we want to learn and which 
questions we have to ask. The proficiency self-estimation is just a way to 
split answers into more or less experienced people. So back to 
Stallman/Thorvalds/Musk/Trump, the better option is maybe "I'm a professional 
system administrator" (whatever we put there, it's clear that this is the 
maximum option).

On 26.05.20 16:52, Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> 
> On 26/05/2020 16:09, Brett Cornwall wrote:
>>
>> On May 26, 2020 6:10:44 AM PDT, Paolo Vecchi 
>>  wrote:
>>> 4 I think lately Richard Stallman has been involved in controversial
>>> stuff. Maybe it's safer to use Linus Torvalds to avoid comments?
>> Further, Stallman is actually not very technically proficient these days and 
>> makes for a poor example of a 'God-tier' hacker.
> :D True.
> 
> So shall we settle for Linus Torvalds or there are other suggestions?
> 
> Paolo
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Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
Thanks for the input. The draft for a survey is on Nextcloud 
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ZCX4wrx3wipr5mQ

Framing the questionnaire as input for future development we might get a 
feeling what percentage of users is interested in LOOL. And hopefully some have 
experienced success or failed and can reply what's needed for a one-click 
installation.

Cheers,
Heiko



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Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 22.05.20 16:09, Simon Phipps wrote:
> A survey form would be the best way to go a about it

Happy to support this but no idea how to start. Ordinary users cannot answer 
"What's the best solution for you to get LOOL?" neither "Which kind of 
authentication do you prefer? [OpenFoo, LibreBar, PublicQux]". And isn't the 
setup kind of a stack that needs to be installed with (Next)Cloud, LOOL 
backend, and (COOL)-UI?

So what I'd need for a survey is a couple of simple questions that everybody 
can answer. My preferred type of question is multiple-choice with additional 
"Other" option.



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Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-03-13

2020-04-07 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 31.03.20 12:45, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> 4. Status quo about Pending Actions (Lothar 5min)
> 
> A.2020-01-30.NC get an estimate on template creation cost
> A.2020-01-30.MM get an estimate on template code work
> A.2020-01-30.TB setup ESC call/discussion on OOXML improvement
> A.2020-01-30.FE estimate costs of Campus Ambassador programme
> Update bank warrants -> Florian [waiting for Berlin representation statement 
> before]
> 
>    Rational: clarifying todos, timeline
> 
>     -Nicolas: main idea is to start project to create shiny and high quality 
> templates

We discussed the idea last year with Elio Qoshi from open labs (Tirana). There 
was a rough number of 5000€ in the room for professional Writer templates. 
Regarding localization there might be a prototype by LBP for Impress templates, 
see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/58787



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Re: [board-discuss] How is TDC compelled to keep the user first?

2020-03-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
It seems to me that TDF hasn't been efficient in fighting against unauthorized 
use of the brand. The app stores are full of "liberoffices". Why not doing this 
by TDC?


On 2 March 2020 11:02:16 CET, Simon Phipps  wrote:
> license is exclusive *only* *in the app
> stores*, and that is because TDF will also
> be acting against knock-off apps selling the
> brand in ways that reflect poorly
> on LibreOffice. 

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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
BoD is always busy so let's focus on the relevant part: do or don't. My 
understanding was the same as KJ's, nevertheless I'm happy to make an 
elaborated proposal when there is a good likelihood for acceptance.

On 19.11.18 12:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> I strongly support the request for a TDF specific logo/icon, while I
> don't think we should reopen the mascot topic because of the comments we
> have received during the last Reddit AMA, which clearly show that there
> would be flames from a group not involved in the community but vocal
> enough to disrupt our process.
> 
> On 19/11/2018 10:14, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was 
>> if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something 
>> more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received 
>> a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow.
> 

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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
Happy to have green light from the board to continue with a) another MIME 
icon/different TDF branding topic and b) restarting the mascot thing. Would 
discuss the procedure with team and ESC, of course.

On 19.11.18 12:07, Simon Phipps wrote:
> I agree but I was considering just the decision-making aspect rather than the 
> implementation.
> 
> {Terse? Mobile!}
> 
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 12:04 Franklin Weng  <mailto:frank...@goodhorse.idv.tw> wrote:
> 
> Besides ESC I would suggest to get some more professional visual 
> designers into this topic.
> 
> Simon Phipps  <mailto:webm...@documentfoundation.org>> 於 2018年11月19日 週一 下午6:36寫道:
> 
> Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for 
> the ESC?
> 
>     {Terse? Mobile!}
> 
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 11:32 Heiko Tietze  <mailto:tietze.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. 
> Question was if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create 
> something more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I 
> received a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, 
> somehow.
> 
> On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
> > Dear Community,
> > the board will meet again
> >
> >      on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
> >
> > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
> >      https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
> > or at
> >      https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
> >
> >
> > 
> > Public part
> >
> > 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
> >
> > 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
> >
> > 3) quarterly reports
> >
> > 
> >
> > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply 
> to this
> > message and join us during the meeting.
> >
> > ATB,
> > Marina
> >
> 
>     -- 
> Dr. Heiko Tietze
> UX designer
> Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Franklin Weng
> 中華民國軟體自由協會理事長
> LibreOffice 導入專家
> LibreOffice 法人代表文件基金會董事、認證委員會委員
> KDE 協會成員、歐洲自由軟體基金會成員
> 

-- 
Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509



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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was if 
we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something more 
special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received a 
request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow.

On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
> Dear Community,
> the board will meet again
> 
>  on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
> 
> We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
>  https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
> or at
>  https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
> 
> 
> 
> Public part
> 
> 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
> 
> 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
> 
> 3) quarterly reports
> 
> 
> 
> If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this
> message and join us during the meeting.
> 
> ATB,
> Marina
> 

-- 
Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509



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