[board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] Preliminary results 2015 Elections TDF Board of Directors
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32:18AM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 02:18:26AM +, Michael Meeks wrote: >> This piece matches my pocket calculation too =) and FWIW; I >> think it's good to have Marina at the top of the list for several >> reasons; though personally I'm not a fan of any special difference >> between elected Directors based on ordering. > Yes, I think for future elections we should publish the elected > candidates in alphabetical order only. If we want to give hints to > the upcoming board who is a good candidate to become > Chairwomen/Chairman, we should list the first rank votes after the > name, but not the "order" of elected candidates from a voting system > that was never designed to provide a preference between the elected > candidates. For the selection of the Chairwomen/Chairman -- where > there is only one seat -- this vote actually makes a lot of sense. >From a naive POV, *yes* they provide a ranking, since one of these persons would not have been elected if the number of people to elect would be one less... Recurse, and you get a ranking. (This assumes some stability to the algorithm...) To choose a chairperson from the votes, we could pick the Condorcet winner as Chairperson :) (there usually is one, even though not mathematically guaranteed). (Unless the elected body chooses its own chairperson which seems to be the case here.) -- Lionel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Re: Nominate Lionel Mamane
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 08:36:59AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:09:02AM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: >> I'd like to nominate Lionel Mamane for the upcoming Board of >> Directors election. > It would be an honour to serve; I accept my nomination as candidate. Full Name: Lionel Elie Mamane email address: lio...@mamane.lu no relevant corporate affiliation I'm primarily a developer interested in Base and scripting (especially Python), stemming from my interest in using LibreOffice to develop in-house database-driven business applications. My "free software" life used to be centred on Debian, but has shifted to LibreOffice now. By contrast with the current board members, I was not involved in OpenOffice.org; as such, I will bring to the board an eye more representative of the "new crop" of LibreOffice volunteers. -- Lionel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Re: Nominate Lionel Mamane
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:09:02AM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > I'd like to nominate Lionel Mamane for the upcoming Board of > Directors election. It would be an honour to serve; I accept my nomination as candidate. -- Lionel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] PostgreSQL project <-> Document Foundation liaison
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:27:06AM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 10:17 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> A "news" is, I *think*, an item that gets placed in PosgreSQL's >> "weekly news" column >> http://www.postgresql.org/community/weeklynews/ >> and/or ends up posted the pgsql-annou...@postgresql.org mailing list. >> Maybe when 3.5 comes out, we push an announcement there, whose core >> would be "LibreOffice now has native PostgreSQL support out of the >> box"? I don't want to write that announcement on my own, so when the >> time is right, I'll look into it with our press / propaganda / >> publicity / ... team (I assume we have one). > Sounds good to me - Italo is the man who can around these > things - given that release time is usually a frenetic circus of > press interviews, announcement drafting, website updating > etc. etc. it's prolly good to start early on that snippit; how many > lines/words are these usually ? Update: given the state of base in general (e.g. the seriousness of the bugs corrected during the rc cycle...) and PostgreSQL-SDBC specifically (fdo#45254 comes to mind...), I'd rather not attract PR light on it just yet. Let's hope 3.6 will be up for it. -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] PostgreSQL project <-> Document Foundation liaison
Hi, As main maintainer of PostgreSQL-SDBC, the native driver for LibreOffice to connect to a PostgreSQL database server which is going to be bundled with LibreOffice 3.5, I'm putting myself as "manager" of the "The Document Foundation" organisation on the postgresql.org website and related resources. This is your opportunity to veto me in that position should you wish, but then please appoint another person. You can also adjoin me another manager: create an account at https://www.postgresql.org/account/ for that person. I filled in the form as follows: Name: The Document Foundation Address: (left blank) URL: http://www.documentfoundation.org/ email: i...@documentfoundation.org Organisation Type: Open Source Project (other choices: Individual, Not for profit, Company) Current manager(s): lmamane (myself) Organisation type "Not for profit" might be technically more accurate, but I see us as so strongly linked to the LibreOffice "Open Source Project" that I equate both. The power this position grants me and/or the person you choose is: post / modify / update (as the case may be) News, Events, Products and Professional Services to the postgresql.org website in the name of The Document Foundation, subject to approval by PostgreSQL moderators. A "product" is an entry into one of the categories in http://www.postgresql.org/download/product-categories/ My primary intent (and the reason I start this whole shebang) is to list PostgreSQL-SDBC properly in http://www.postgresql.org/download/products/2-drivers-and-interfaces/ A "news" is, I *think*, an item that gets placed in PosgreSQL's "weekly news" column http://www.postgresql.org/community/weeklynews/ and/or ends up posted the pgsql-annou...@postgresql.org mailing list. Maybe when 3.5 comes out, we push an announcement there, whose core would be "LibreOffice now has native PostgreSQL support out of the box"? I don't want to write that announcement on my own, so when the time is right, I'll look into it with our press / propaganda / publicity / ... team (I assume we have one). An "event" is a entry in the listing at http://www.postgresql.org/about/eventarchive/ I do not foresee us having an event relevant to announce to the PostgreSQL community at large. A "professional service" is an entry into http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/ I do not foresee us offering PostgreSQL-related professional services (!). -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] CommunityBylaws and "actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity"
I'm reading the wiki page CommunityBylaws, and I'm confused. It says "These Bylaws do not apply to the actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity (...)". But then they go on doing exactly that. For example, they explain how the Board of Directors is elected, and by whom. The board of directors is AFAIK usually the people responsible to the law / state / courts that e.g. the money of the foundation is used in accordance to the goals of the foundation. For the TDF, that would for example be "not to feed the poor starving children of Bangladesh", which may be a good worthy cause in its own right, but not within the TDF's goals. http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/24/updates-on-the-foundation/ (the latest such update I found) says the foundation will be in Germany. I notice that on the wiki page CommunityBylaws/de, BoD is "Vorstand". Furthermore, according to the civil code (Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch), the "Vorstand" is: 1) An entity mandated by law 2) _by_ _definition_ the body that represents the foundation _as_ _a_ _legal_ _entity_ References from http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bgb/: §26 BGB: (1) Der Verein muss einen Vorstand haben. Der Vorstand vertritt den Verein gerichtlich und außergerichtlich (...) §86 BGB: Die Vorschriften der §§ 26 und (...) finden auf Stiftungen entsprechende Anwendung (...) So to me, it is factual that the Bylaws *do* speak about the "actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity": they speak about the composition of the BoD, and the BoD is part of the structure of the foundation as a legal entity, and by law the BoD must be involved in the "governance of the foundation as a legal entity". Other examples: * The Chairperson (CH) is in charge of representing the Foundation. * The Executive Director [ED] is an Officer of the Foundation who is in charge of running the Foundation's daily operations To me, these (among others) speak of "the actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation". Best Regards, -- Lionel Mamane -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Wiki: Organization vs CommunityBylaws
I wasn't sure who to contact about this. Feel free to redirect me. The wiki pages Organization and CommunityBylaws seem to say approximately the same thing, but Organization seems outdated. For example it says "Currently there is no Board of Directors installed. The work is currently done by the Steering Commitee.", which AFAIK is not true anymore. I didn't dare just make Organization a redirect to CommunityBylaws without checking first, so... would that be a good idea? Also "File:TDF organisation chart.png" should probably be shown on CommunityBylaws. -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] dial-in from Brazil
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:53:33PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane wrote on 2011-11-22 14:50: >> The toll-free 0800-8912057 does not work? > hm, where's this number from? I assumed that the BoD call uses the same system / numbers as the TSC call; it seems this assumption is wrong. -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] dial-in from Brazil
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:50:09PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 01:52:03PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> I've investigated options to get a number directly in Rio via our >> own Asterisk instance, but unfortunately, it would cost quite a lot >> to get the number and the incoming routing. > didww.com sells a DID in Rio or Sao Paulo redirected to SIP or IAX2 or > Skype or Google Talk for 8,- USD/month. It is only two channels, that > may be the problem for us, not enough channels? See also http://www.voiponshop.net/brazil, which I'm not a customer of, so did not test their service. 6,50€/month. -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] dial-in from Brazil
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 01:52:03PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > I heard from Olivier that a dial-in from Brazil is complicated, as > for many Brazilians, it is an expensive long-distance call. The toll-free 0800-8912057 does not work? > I've investigated options to get a number directly in Rio via our > own Asterisk instance, but unfortunately, it would cost quite a lot > to get the number and the incoming routing. didww.com sells a DID in Rio or Sao Paulo redirected to SIP or IAX2 or Skype or Google Talk for 8,- USD/month. It is only two channels, that may be the problem for us, not enough channels? I have an Asterisk running on a well-connected (Europe, Amsterdam) machine, I could offer the redirect "informally". That may or may not be sufficient quality service. -- Lionel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
