Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Hi all, On 28/04/2022 21:52, Caolán McNamara wrote: There is (and here proposed to still be) 5 TDF employees, 5 Collabora, 3 allotropia, 3 Red Hat and 6 other Individual or single company employees on the ESC giving IMO a fairly broad representation of ESC-relevant skills and insights. I wouldn't welcome dropping 8 (or 12) members and lose out on that. While it's good to have a broad representation of skills IMHO we have also to take in consideration the representation of potential interests. I think it's OK to have experts in various fields discussing and proposing their views/projects on how to tackle an issue but once they have made the proposal then the ranking should be left to those that are not employed by companies that will bid for the eventual tender. We all trust that developers in the ESC want to do their best for TDF, the community and LibreOffice but we also have to avoid doubts that the interests of their employers influences their choices. True that the ESC ranking gets ranked again in the board but having once again the representatives of the same organisations also in the board may influence the ranking. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
On 28.04.22 20:27, Andreas Mantke wrote: The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem... In case of the ESC we should prefer expertise over diversity. It's not a panel to make balanced decisions- and the (diverse) board is supervising anyway. We could also seek for more female or non-male contribution, people from Africa, etc. And we do! -- Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 20:27 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote: > it may be good to know why there are the need for two members from > one ecosystem company? Has no other individual contributors or > ecosystem system members shown interest to participate in the ESC? > > The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem and the > interests of its members (individual and organizations). Thus every > organization (aside maybe from TDF) should only hold one seat in the > ESC. The text of proposed changes is a diff against the current list available in the link at the top of the original mail, just in case the text reads as if the proposed changes are the full ESC complement. There is (and here proposed to still be) 5 TDF employees, 5 Collabora, 3 allotropia, 3 Red Hat and 6 other Individual or single company employees on the ESC giving IMO a fairly broad representation of ESC-relevant skills and insights. I wouldn't welcome dropping 8 (or 12) members and lose out on that. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Hi all, Am 28.04.22 um 13:14 schrieb Stephan Ficht: (...) 2. Discuss & vote: Update ESC composition (Kendy, 5 mins) The ESC has agreed to update its current composition: https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/ this way: Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual) → Vasily Melenchuk (CIB) Andras Timar (Collabora) → Luboš Luňák (Collabora) Michael Meeks (Collabora) → Tomaž Vajngerl (Collabora) Olivier Hallot (TDF) → Ilmari Lauhakangas (TDF) Sophie Gautier (TDF) → Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) Katarína Behrens (Individual) → Andreas Heinisch (Individual) There is one swap of an individual contributor to a corporate contributor, but it is the only CIB person on the list, so the corporate affiliation rule still stays maintained. The ESC kindly asks the Board to approve this change. it may be good to know why there are the need for two members from one ecosystem company? Has no other individual contributors or ecosystem system members shown interest to participate in the ESC? The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem and the interests of its members (individual and organizations). Thus every organization (aside maybe from TDF) should only hold one seat in the ESC. Regards, Andreas -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Dear Community, find below the agenda for our * TDF board meeting with a public part and followed by a private part on Monday, May 2nd at 1600 UTC / 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2) at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard For time zone conversion, see e.g. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20220502T18=37=49=107 ## AGENDA: ### Public Part 1. Q: Answering questions from the community (all, 10 mins) Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF 2. Discuss & vote: Update ESC composition (Kendy, 5 mins) The ESC has agreed to update its current composition: https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/ this way: Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual) → Vasily Melenchuk (CIB) Andras Timar (Collabora) → Luboš Luňák (Collabora) Michael Meeks (Collabora) → Tomaž Vajngerl (Collabora) Olivier Hallot (TDF) → Ilmari Lauhakangas (TDF) Sophie Gautier (TDF) → Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) Katarína Behrens (Individual) → Andreas Heinisch (Individual) There is one swap of an individual contributor to a corporate contributor, but it is the only CIB person on the list, so the corporate affiliation rule still stays maintained. The ESC kindly asks the Board to approve this change. 3. Status report & discuss: board strategy workshop (Florian, Stephan, 10 mins) ### Private part 4. Discuss & reports: board oversight groups (Thorsten, all 20 mins) Reason for privacy: HR, tax and legal topics. First quarter for the new board is up, so let's hear reports from the various oversight groups. 5. Discuss: Last minute item(s) (owner of the item, all 10 mins) Rationale: if there is time left, and anything is popping up after sending the agenda -- Stephan Ficht, Administrative Assistant Tel: +49 30 5557992-64 | Mail: stephan.fi...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
