RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Sure, i'll do another round of voting on monday.

Charles.

Le 4 mars 2011, 1:23 PM, "Caolan McNamara"  a écrit :

On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 18:12 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-01
at 18:19 +0100, Charles...

> > Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: > >
http://wiki.documentfounda...
The current Logo page currently says:

"Distributors of the substantially unmodified binaries are allowed to
distribute the product, so they distribute it with the TDF subline
inside the product. If you're unsure of what is meant by "substantially
unmodified binaries" please refer to the clause 1 of the Permitted Use
section in the TDF Trademark Policy."

which seems to bring the Logo Policy back into sync with the Trademark
policy, i.e. we don't have to change the splashscreen if we don't
substantially modify the binaries.

Guess should hold off on voting until the final Monday round, but
Trademark and Logo policies are looking reasonable to me.

C.

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Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-04 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-04 06.53:

Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or
the admin team can help you out...


ah, nevermind, I found it out. Christoph, you can now edit the TM policy 
page (I'm rather busy today, so I would be happy if someone could do this).


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-04 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-04 06.53:

Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or
the admin team can help you out...


hm, what's the exact problem? Christoph cannot edit the TM policy, or I 
shall protect it?


Florian

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Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-03 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Charles,

argh, sorry ... of course you said that you won't be fully available
during the end of the week.

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Freitag, den 04.03.2011, 06:53 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
> Christoph,
> 
> Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or
> the admin team can help you out...
> 
> Sorry,
> Charles.
> 
> Le 4 mars 2011, 12:13 AM, "Christoph Noack"  a
> écrit :
> 
> Hi Charles, hi all!
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 16:42 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
> 
> > - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the > english
> version being the off...
> Okay, I had a look (or two) on the pages ...
> 
> TRADEMARK POLICY
> 
> Fortunately, there seems to be sufficient protection, since I was unable
> to edit the Trademark Policy wiki page. Thus, I've edited the content on
> my user page that should be (if the changes are perceived as
> improvements) copied to the real page. Charles, could you take care of
> that, please?
> 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space#The_Document_Foundation_Trademark_Policy
> 
> Changes:
>  * Overall: Added some headings to improve the structure of the
>text and to ensure proper TOC creation by the wiki (although
>some changes might appear awkward)
>  * Section "Related Information": Added this section (referring to
>Logo Policy, Branding Guidelines) and linked from within the
>text to this section.
>  * Section "The Trademarks": Added list of the trademarks to ease
>the understandability --> By the way, the information is
>duplicated in "Purpose"; is that helpful?
>  * Overall: Converted the text-only mail address into a "clickable"
>mail address
>  * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits
>to the wiki
> 
> 
> LOGO POLICY
> 
> I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems
> still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo,
> Community Logo - or something like that).
> 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy
> Major Changes:
>  * Moved the content to a table
>  * Changed the point-of-view from "we" to "TDF", and
>"they/external" to "other" --> Rationale: Most of the people
>will be part of the community, so it would be strange to tell
>them being "external". The "we" for TDF seemed a bit too
>self-centered ... although it is correct from our
>point-of-view :-)
>  * Added "Usage Examples" --> Are these descriptions okay, are more
>important ones missing? I think these examples have great value
>in describing when to use, when to avoid the TDF subline logo.
>  * Overall: Improved description of legal mailing list (now:
>"non-public")
>  * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits
>to the wiki
> 
> Since there have been major changes, could you please thoroughly check
> whether the text still fits to your thoughts and our goals?
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to
> steering-discuss+help@documentfoundatio...
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RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Drew,

Basically one is the general rule, the tm policy. The other one is the
guideline for the logo. However if you point to a case where there might be
conflict, We'd be happy to review them and fix them.

Best,

Charles.

Le 4 mars 2011, 1:00 AM, "drew"  a écrit :

On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 00:12 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi Charles, hi all!

> > > LOGO POLICY > > I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming
of some items seems >...
Hi,

Well which is it - is the community logo w/registered trademark, mark or
not? - it is both ways on the wiki page above - PNG w/out any mark, SVG
with 'registered trademark", while on the trademark policy page it seems
that maybe it is just a "tm" that is appropriate at this time.

Thanks so much, in advance

Drew Jensen

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RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Christoph,

Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or
the admin team can help you out...

Sorry,
Charles.

Le 4 mars 2011, 12:13 AM, "Christoph Noack"  a
écrit :

Hi Charles, hi all!

Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 16:42 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:

> - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the > english
version being the off...
Okay, I had a look (or two) on the pages ...

TRADEMARK POLICY

Fortunately, there seems to be sufficient protection, since I was unable
to edit the Trademark Policy wiki page. Thus, I've edited the content on
my user page that should be (if the changes are perceived as
improvements) copied to the real page. Charles, could you take care of
that, please?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space#The_Document_Foundation_Trademark_Policy

Changes:
 * Overall: Added some headings to improve the structure of the
   text and to ensure proper TOC creation by the wiki (although
   some changes might appear awkward)
 * Section "Related Information": Added this section (referring to
   Logo Policy, Branding Guidelines) and linked from within the
   text to this section.
 * Section "The Trademarks": Added list of the trademarks to ease
   the understandability --> By the way, the information is
   duplicated in "Purpose"; is that helpful?
 * Overall: Converted the text-only mail address into a "clickable"
   mail address
 * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits
   to the wiki


LOGO POLICY

I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems
still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo,
Community Logo - or something like that).

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy
Major Changes:
 * Moved the content to a table
 * Changed the point-of-view from "we" to "TDF", and
   "they/external" to "other" --> Rationale: Most of the people
   will be part of the community, so it would be strange to tell
   them being "external". The "we" for TDF seemed a bit too
   self-centered ... although it is correct from our
   point-of-view :-)
 * Added "Usage Examples" --> Are these descriptions okay, are more
   important ones missing? I think these examples have great value
   in describing when to use, when to avoid the TDF subline logo.
 * Overall: Improved description of legal mailing list (now:
   "non-public")
 * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits
   to the wiki

Since there have been major changes, could you please thoroughly check
whether the text still fits to your thoughts and our goals?


Thanks a lot!

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