Re: [board-discuss] Drafting "Tender to implement autoupdater"

2021-07-22 Thread Michael Weghorn



Hello Florian,

On 22/07/2021 14.18, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Apologies if that caused confusion - from what I am aware, there have 
been no further discussions. Chances are it was a topic in the ESC, but 
at least from the tendering side of things, there are no news yet.


Thanks for the clarification. :-)

Michael

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Re: [board-discuss] Drafting "Tender to implement autoupdater"

2021-07-22 Thread Florian Effenberger

..."for the rolling release", I meant, of course :)

Florian Effenberger wrote on 22.07.21 at 14:18:

...indeed, while it's a prerequisite for the auto-updater,


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Re: [board-discuss] Drafting "Tender to implement autoupdater"

2021-07-22 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Michael,

thanks a lot for the follow-up!

Michael Weghorn wrote on 21.07.21 at 22:16:

To me as a non-native English speaker, the above sentence sounds a bit 
like there were already more specific plans than what I can remember 
from back then and I cannot remember (but might have missed) a follow-up 
discussion on the topic so far.


Apologies if that caused confusion - from what I am aware, there have 
been no further discussions. Chances are it was a topic in the ESC, but 
at least from the tendering side of things, there are no news yet. 
However...


Anyway, I think that having a good auto-updater makes sense in any case, 
regardless of what decision will be taken regarding a potential rolling 
release model in the end (and therefore think the tender makes sense in 
any case).


...indeed, while it's a prerequisite for the auto-updater, it provides 
quite some benefits also by itself. :-)


Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] Drafting "Tender to implement autoupdater"

2021-07-21 Thread Michael Weghorn

Hello,

just a personal comment on this sentence in the draft:


With plans of a “rolling release” model, that results in more frequent
updates, e.g. biweekly or monthly, we want to improve this system.


Just to mention it: The rolling release idea was - among others - 
discussed in an ESC call in December last year (minutes at [1]). The 
topic was controversial back then and if I remember correctly, the 
consensus was to discuss this again once there is a clearer perspective 
on how that might work in practice (which involves much more than the 
question of how an automatic update might work, s. e.g. some concerns in 
the ESC minutes).
To me as a non-native English speaker, the above sentence sounds a bit 
like there were already more specific plans than what I can remember 
from back then and I cannot remember (but might have missed) a follow-up 
discussion on the topic so far.


Anyway, I think that having a good auto-updater makes sense in any case, 
regardless of what decision will be taken regarding a potential rolling 
release model in the end (and therefore think the tender makes sense in 
any case).


Michael

[1] 
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-December/086428.html


On 21/07/2021 13.04, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello,

one of the approved [1] tenders is the

 Tender to implement autoupdater

The board would like to work together in public with all of you on this 
tender before it gets officially published. The current, second 
iteration of the draft is therefore shared at


 https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/QP24tFdJio6MPxK

The board is happy to get your feedback and proposals. We'd like to 
discuss this ideally in the next board call, i.e. on Friday, July 30, at 
1300 Berlin time. Please send your feedback to the public 
board-discuss@documentfoundation.org mailing list.


Those with a conflict of interest (i.e. potential bidders) will be 
excluded from the point on the tender is published and evaluated.


Thanks a lot to Markus, Emiliano and several members of the ESC for 
working on the tender draft and helping us to write the second iteration 
of it!


Looking forward to your feedback,
Florian

[1] 
https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2021/msg00091.html 




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