Re: side-note Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Tom,

Tom Davies wrote on 2011-10-30 20:07:

Florian.  It is good to have these issues dealt with.  There is no need to apologise for 
'spam' as it is all relevant and important stuff.  If these issue weren't raised today 
they would have to be raised another day and they are the type of thing that is good to 
deal with and get out of the way quickly.


indeed, that's what I was thinking. The earlier we raise the issues, the 
sooner people are aware of them and the sooner we can start working on 
these. ;-)



I think the Steering Committee and the MC have been fantastic and done a 
remarkable job.  Avoiding a complete re-shuffle all at the same time makes 
sense so that there is some continuity.  The current BoD seems a good selection 
and that promises well for the future of TDF and LO.  It would be good to add 
some diversity added to the management structure of TDF without losing anyone.


Thanks, Tom, your kind words are really appreciated! I think the current 
selection is good, because we have new as well as old people in there, 
that's good.


Florian

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side-note Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Florian.  It is good to have these issues dealt with.  There is no need to 
apologise for 'spam' as it is all relevant and important stuff.  If these issue 
weren't raised today they would have to be raised another day and they are the 
type of thing that is good to deal with and get out of the way quickly.  

I think the Steering Committee and the MC have been fantastic and done a 
remarkable job.  Avoiding a complete re-shuffle all at the same time makes 
sense so that there is some continuity.  The current BoD seems a good selection 
and that promises well for the future of TDF and LO.  It would be good to add 
some diversity added to the management structure of TDF without losing anyone.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 30/10/11, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: [steering-discuss] chairmen
 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Date: Sunday, 30 October, 2011, 18:44
 Hello,
 
 sorry for spamming you so massively today, but I want to
 use the free day to get some formal things done for TDF.
 
 The current statutes (which you will soon have in a
 translated English version) foresee, as it is a legal
 requirement in Germany, that there will be two chairmen: One
 chairman and one deputy.
 
 I know we had a discussion on this topic quite some months
 ago, and before you are surprised that it comes up again, be
 advised that contrary to the original plannings, the role
 does not have additional rights.
 
 The draft mainly foresees that for legally representing the
 foundation towards third parties, the chairman and some
 other BoD member has to sign the contract, and in case the
 chairman cannot, the deputy does. So, for any contract, it
 cannot be signed without the chairman, like it is common
 practice in many associations as well (FrODeV has a similar
 rule), except in cases there are individual warrants, which
 is possible with our statutes.
 
 Naturally, the chairmen will also be the first point of
 contact for authorities and other boring legal stuff. ;-)
 (Read: In case the tax authorities need information, they
 will first ping you. In case the foundation authorities have
 issues or questions, you will be the first who gets pinged.
 Etc.) Basically, that's it, there are no further rights or
 duties, no more merits and no stronger voice, but you will
 see that when we will have the translation ready.
 
 The statues do not set explicit rules on whom to appoint,
 they just foresee that the BoD appoints two of its members
 to these roles. NB: Deputies can, to my understanding, *not*
 be appointed chairmen.
 
 Some proposed (and IMHO, we had this at least in one early
 bylaws draft) that those who had been elected with the most
 votes should be appointed automatically. However, not
 automatically those who have most votes want to run for that
 role, so I propose that everyone of the newly elected BoD
 thinks whether he wants to get appointed, and we discuss it.
 Only if several people run and cannot agree on two
 candidates, we might switch back to the most votes model.
 
 Best is to wait until the translation is ready so we have
 the same understanding of the topic, since the term chairman
 might raise some confusion, but I wanted to make you aware
 of it already.
 
 Florian
 
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