Re: [Boston.pm] more on hosting and email suggestions, any experience with VPS?

2004-12-07 Thread Gyepi SAM
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 01:11:00AM -0500, Andrew Langmead wrote:
Does anyone have any  experience with any companies providing Virtual Private 
Server (also 
 called Virtual Dedicated Hosting)?

After years of using shared hosting services, I switched about a year ago to a
UML based VPS with tektonic.com and am quite happy with it.

For $35/month, I get 4GB of space and two IP addresses with root access to a
virtual server on which I run smtp,dns, and http services.

I really like the fact that I can control almost everything and can run any
services I want and am not completely at the mercy of the administrator's
paranoia, ignorance or schedule.

The main disadvantage I have found is that you cannot run commands which
require real root privileges. For instance: iptables does not work and init
is really a fake init which cannot be controlled.

The providers have been very responsive to my needs. They initially had some
growing pains when I first started with them, but have since become quite
reliable.

I am also interested in other people's experiences with similar services.

-Gyepi
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Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Courier IMAP

2004-12-07 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ted Zlatanov wrote:
 Courier IMAP is very reliable and standards-compliant.
 
 The problem with Courier IMAP is the support community. When I 
 researched it I found several people complaining about how the lead 
 developer(s) ran the project. So I avoided it.
 
 I ended up using maildrop, which is a component of Courier, and after
 contributing documentation and attempting to open a discussion of how a 
 certain feature worked, I found the lead developer to be very closed to 
 new ideas.

I agree, but I find the quality of Sam's answers and software to be
proportional to their directness (the djb effect).  I am certain
Courier IMAP is the best IMAP server I've tried.  My tests were
extensive.  To stay sort of on topic, the programmatic tests were in
Perl, using the Mail::IMAPClient CPAN module.  The UI tests were done
with Mozilla, Emacs Gnus, and Pine.

 Dovecot is the complete opposite. It may not be the most polished 
 solution, but the lead developer is competent and very open to new ideas
 and contributors.

I tried it and it had too many problems a year ago.  Perhaps I'll give
it another try...  It would have to be awfully good to replace
Courier, though.

Ted
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[Boston.pm] OT: Recommendation for mail server? - a possible answer!

2004-12-07 Thread Ranga Nathan
I found that we already have a Mandrake box running Postfix. With the 
reviews I had from this list, it seems to be a reasonably good choice.
Thank you all.
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[Boston.pm] I/O to device

2004-12-07 Thread Ranga Nathan
An interface to z/VM's command processor (CP)  is implemented as a device 
(/dev/cpcmd)
I want to use perl to send commands and receive results. 

I have never done I/O to device, so this is something new.

I have a sample c program that does:
 fd = open(CPDEV, O_RDWR);
 if (fd = 0) {
rc = write(fd, command, strlen(command));

I would rather code in perl than c!

I need to write to /dev/cpcmd and read back from it.

Can someone start me up in the right direction?

Do I use Fcntl? If so, I had difficulty following the example in Perl 
Programming.

Thanks
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Re: [Boston.pm] more on hosting and email suggestions, any experience with VPS?

2004-12-07 Thread David Meyers
Gyepi SAM wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 01:11:00AM -0500, Andrew Langmead wrote:
Does anyone have any  experience with any companies providing Virtual Private Server (also 
called Virtual Dedicated Hosting)?

The main disadvantage I have found is that you cannot run commands which
require real root privileges. For instance: iptables does not work and init
is really a fake init which cannot be controlled.
I looked into using a VPS and the thing which kept me from going
with it was the lack of backups.  Any backing up of one's server
had to be done by oneself.
Things may have changed since I looked into it, but at the time
the providers didn't want to back up each user's full partitions,
including OS, each night.
FWIW, I'm using Pair now.
The only thing that I'd like that they don't provide would be
a means to use tomcat and to deploy java servlets.  (I'd love
to use snipsnap, for example).  Instead, I've deployed both
php and perl based things quite easily.  But snipsnap really
is pretty slick...
--d
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[Boston.pm] OT: blosxom

2004-12-07 Thread Greg London

my website is on Pair.
I want to put a blog up on my site.
Pair has blosxom on the list of tools they have.

According to blosxom homepage, it's pure perl,
so its sort of a on-topic question.

Anyone know anything about blogging as far as
which blogging software is good?
Is it all a wash? Is blosxom any good?
I've heard about Movable Type as another option.

anyone in the know doing any blogging?

Greg

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Re: [Boston.pm] OT: blosxom

2004-12-07 Thread Federico Lucifredi
Hey Greg,
 I have been using blosxom since one of the early imaginary number version 
releases (0.x+i). I strongly recommend it, it is essentially a clever perl 
script, very minimalistic, it builds on *NIX assumprions (as it should!), so 
that you simply create a text file in a certain directory, the first line 
becomes the title, the rest the body. You can do this via ssh (my favorite 
option), but many plugins exist to do it from any facility you might think of 
(and it is easy to write your own).

The date of the entry is taken from the system's file last modification. 

I have a little hack to pre-render things via lynx, but Rael incorporated a 
more flexible scheme doing the same thing into newer releases, so that you can 
have the script render once rather than per-each HTTP call, and serve the 
cached result. This is nice if you are expecting lots of traffic, of course, or 
if you run your webserver on a mac SE-30 as I do for a challenge =).

 Three thumbs up is my overall comment. I would tell you to go peek at my site, 
but I moved and it is still down.

 -Federico

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg London [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2004 06:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Boston.pm] OT:  blosxom
 
 
 my website is on Pair.
 I want to put a blog up on my site.
 Pair has blosxom on the list of tools they have.
 
 According to blosxom homepage, it's pure perl,
 so its sort of a on-topic question.
 
 Anyone know anything about blogging as far as
 which blogging software is good?
 Is it all a wash? Is blosxom any good?
 I've heard about Movable Type as another option.
 
 anyone in the know doing any blogging?
 
 Greg
 
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[Boston.pm] reading in a directory

2004-12-07 Thread Alex Brelsfoard
Howdy all.
I have a quick (hopefully) and easy (hopefully) question you might be
able to help me with.  I would like to create a form (html) that takes
in a little bit of info.  Most importantly I want it to give the user
an option to select a directory from their hard drive.  Much like the
input type=file option, only with this I want to select a
directory.
Once that directory is selected and the form submitted I then plan on
reading in the names of each file.  I will do more there, but I know
what I'm doing past there.

So the two parts I need help with are: 1) how to select a folder through
an html form (being generated by perl)  2) how to read the contents of
said folder (would the regular readdir() function work here).

Any suggestions here?
Thanks.

--Alex
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Re: [Boston.pm] more on hosting and email suggestions, any experience with VPS?

2004-12-07 Thread James Linden Rose, III
While we're on the topic, this lurker would like to know if there is 
anything better for running multiple websites than a BHCOM.com virtual 
server (I pay $59 per month for the virtual server, and $25 per month 
to be able to host up to 25 domain names (total $84).  All of my 
websites have the same IP address... and I usually have from 6 to 12 up 
and running at any one time.  I've been their customer for many years 
now... service is great... just wondering if I can do better.  They 
also own 4domains.com, so I can integrated domain name management with 
the server

Jim 

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Re: [Boston.pm] more on hosting and email suggestions, any experi ence with VPS?

2004-12-07 Thread Gyepi SAM
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 03:14:13PM -0500, Philipp Hanes wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I just visited www.tektonic.com, and they appear to be an
  acquisitions/holding company... do you have a direct link to
  information on their services?

 looks like it ought to be www.tektonic.net

Indeed! Thanks for the correction Philipp.

Upon further investigation, it turns out that my provider switched sometime
ago to Virtuozzo, which probably explains the reliability improvement.

-Gyepi
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Re: [Boston.pm] reading in a directory

2004-12-07 Thread John Saylor
hi

( 04.12.07 14:13 -0600 ) Alex Brelsfoard:
 But say I want to upload all of the pictures from a wedding or
 something. 

zip them up into one file. [pre-process]

i don't think the browser file selection controls are anywhere near as
flexible as local graphical file selection controls. i think you're best
off keeping the browser file upload part as simple as possible [since it
is already complex and overloaded].

-- 
\js oblique strategy: work at a different speed
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Re: [Boston.pm] reading in a directory

2004-12-07 Thread joe
php does multiple file uploads; I've seen it work but haven't looked at
how it manages it. More here:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.multiple.php

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:31:22 -0600 (CST), Alex Brelsfoard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Wow, well it's good to see we're all on the same page.  Three replies all
 suggesting the same option.. zipped files.  Yeah here's the
 trick.
  I'm trying to make this process easier for my mother, not myself.  So in
 the end, this is adding another layer...  So, if I don't want to do the
 zipped files idea (which is a kinda snazzy idea btw)  then I have only
 two
 other options: 1) do the list of sinlge file selections as suggested, or
 2)use another programming language (javascrip or java I would imagine) to
 connect to the local machine, browse, select the folder, find the files,
 and submit them in the form as hidden fields (somehow).
 
 Well, if anyone else comes up with a neat idea, let me know.
 I'll let y'all know if I come up with something interesting myself.
 Thanks for all the feedback.  I appreciate it.
 
 --Alex
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Re: [Boston.pm] reading in a directory

2004-12-07 Thread Daniel Allen
To add to the list of options:

There is a module for Apache known as mod_dav that implements Web
Folders (DAV).  DAV is very nicely supported on Windows and Mac (less
well on Linux) and will let you treat a server space as a folder; file
transfers are done via HTTP GET and PUT.

However, installing mod_dav requires adding mod_dav to the web server.

To bring this back to perl, some time ago I used mod_dav to build a
user-transparent revision control system, which was merely a small
number of mod_perl handlers to archive every PUT.

-Daniel

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:33:16 -0500, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Linden Rose, III wrote:
  http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.multiple.php
  It seems to be showing PHP's ability to parse multiple files
  in the upload, but not now you get multiple files into the HTML form
  code in the first place.
 
 Agreed. I don't know PHP but the code snippet seems to be illustrating
 how to easily process several uploaded files as an array, but presumes
 on the HTML form side of things that there is a finite and known
 quantity of files.
 
 
 Alex Brelsfoard wrote:
  So i am trying to create a batch upload system for these purposes.
  I can do this for one file.  I just need to make it possible for
  more than one...
 
 The zip approach, as others have suggested, is the most straight forward
 approach. It is commonly used. For example, Yahoo's Store uses this
 trick to allow you to upload batches of product images.
 
 On the server side, zip should be easy to deal with. There are Perl
 modules for unpacking zip files.
 
 
  Should I be seeing if there is a way I can get the user to be able
  to select more than one file from their computer (as opposed to
  selecting a directory)?
 
 As far as a stock web browser is concerned, I think you'll find that'll
 be a dead end.
 
 
  Or am I simply going to have to get inventive with the use of several
  languages?
   
  ...use another programming language (javascrip or java I would imagine)
  to connect to the local machine, browse, select the folder, find the
  files, and submit them in the form as hidden fields (somehow).
 
 I don't think JavaScript alone will help. A Java applet should do it
 from what I understand, though you'll need to adjust security settings
 to allow Java applets (or perhaps your specific applet) access to the
 file system.
 
 Other options include:
 
 Use an FTP client. I believe most modern web browsers can do batch
 uploads and support drag-and-drop in their built-in FTP clients. If not,
 there are plenty of user friendly FTP clients to chose from. (I took
 this approach for a similar project years ago, and used a customized FTP
 server to process the files.)
 
 Write a stand-alone client in Perl that communicates with your CGI
 directly. See the latest Perl Journal for articles on Win32::GUI and a
 tool for turning Perl scripts into an executable file. Perl/Tk is
 another GUI option.
 
 Write a Mozilla Firefox extension or Mozilla XUL application. Once
 installed this avoids the security restrictions that a Java applet would
 have, and you could probably implement it with just JavaScript.
 
 Write a stand-alone client in C#. It appears you can freely download the
   .NET SDK from Microsoft, which includes a C# command line compiler.
 Then pair that up with an open source C# IDE that provides the GUI
 builder. Basically a free Visual Basic without all the ugliness of
 Visual Basic. (I haven't played around with this, but I've got the URLs
 if anyone is interested.)
 
 
 
   -Tom
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