[Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy?
I received an off-list comment from a Perl monger, in response to the recent job posting for a Senior Perl Developer in Waltham, MA. The monger had spent some time talking with the recruiter, only to learn that the location was too far from a commuter rail station to be worthwhile. The monger suggested that job postings from recruiters not be allowed unless the employer's address is clearly stated. Personally, I am not inclined to make this change to our policy. I think that not identifying the employer is a reasonable position for recruiters to take, to protect their business, even though it can be frustrating for potential applicants. I am worried that recruiters might choose not to send job postings to our list at all. I thought of an alternate suggestion, which is that job postings without a street address must indicate accessibility to mass transit. Our job posting policy is a result of a consensus reached on the list a few years ago, so I decided to open this up to the whole list for comments. Would you all like to see either of these suggested changes made? Other feedback on the policy is also welcome. Here is our current job posting policy: --- Job postings may not be posted directly to the list. Instead, job postings should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will review each posting, and either post it to the list or return it to the sender for editing. When I send a job posting to the list, the Subject header will include the string [job]. Guidelines for job postings: 1. Perl must be a primary aspect of the job. 2. The job must be located in the greater Boston area. 3. The following information should be included in the job posting: Required skill-set Contract or permanent position? Pay range, for contract positions Incentives, for permanent positions Placement through a recruiter, or directly with the company? Location, and whether telecommuting is available Company's product or service --- Ronald ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy?
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:20:26AM -0500, Ronald J Kimball wrote: I thought of an alternate suggestion, which is that job postings without a street address must indicate accessibility to mass transit. I think this would make sense. Just saying if it's metro/commuter rail accessible should be enough. Dan -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy?
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:20:26AM -0500, Ronald J Kimball wrote: I received an off-list comment from a Perl monger, in response to the recent job posting for a Senior Perl Developer in Waltham, MA. The monger had spent some time talking with the recruiter, only to learn that the location was too far from a commuter rail station to be worthwhile. Clarification: the monger had not actually talked to the recruiter in this case, but was recalling past situations where this had happened. We don't actually know how far away this particular job is from a commuter rail station. Sorry about the confusion. Ronald ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy?
Clarification: the monger had not actually talked to the recruiter in this case, but was recalling past situations where this had happened. We don't actually know how far away this particular job is from a commuter rail station. Sorry about the confusion. Ronald I know the recruiter who posted this job as I happen to work at the same location and gave her the idea to post to Boston Perl Mongers list. The location is in Waltham but is far from commuter rail station. The office is next to exit 28 (Lincoln Exit) on I-95. It is accessible by bus though. The bus is 70A and runs from Central Square in Cambridge to North Waltham. Stefan ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy?
I think the current policy is fine as is. Location is just one of many factors to be discussed before applying for, or accepting, a job. If this is a pressing concern the applicant should ask about it in an early phone call. Other people will care more about salary, benefits, the nature of the work, etc. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald J Kimball Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: Boston Perl Mongers Subject: [Boston.pm] Update to job posting policy? I received an off-list comment from a Perl monger, in response to the recent job posting for a Senior Perl Developer in Waltham, MA. The monger had spent some time talking with the recruiter, only to learn that the location was too far from a commuter rail station to be worthwhile. The monger suggested that job postings from recruiters not be allowed unless the employer's address is clearly stated. Personally, I am not inclined to make this change to our policy. I think that not identifying the employer is a reasonable position for recruiters to take, to protect their business, even though it can be frustrating for potential applicants. I am worried that recruiters might choose not to send job postings to our list at all. I thought of an alternate suggestion, which is that job postings without a street address must indicate accessibility to mass transit. Our job posting policy is a result of a consensus reached on the list a few years ago, so I decided to open this up to the whole list for comments. Would you all like to see either of these suggested changes made? Other feedback on the policy is also welcome. Here is our current job posting policy: --- Job postings may not be posted directly to the list. Instead, job postings should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will review each posting, and either post it to the list or return it to the sender for editing. When I send a job posting to the list, the Subject header will include the string [job]. Guidelines for job postings: 1. Perl must be a primary aspect of the job. 2. The job must be located in the greater Boston area. 3. The following information should be included in the job posting: Required skill-set Contract or permanent position? Pay range, for contract positions Incentives, for permanent positions Placement through a recruiter, or directly with the company? Location, and whether telecommuting is available Company's product or service --- Ronald ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
