Re: [Boston.pm] March Meeting Tuesday - Messaging Middleware with AMQP and RabbitMQ
On 3/9/15 23:04 , Uri Guttman wrote: i'll be impressed when you have a dead speaker from the future giving a talk! ... brains! -- \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : i am alive ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Perl community The Rising Costs of Aging Perlers
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On 7/22/13 19:14 , Bill Ricker wrote:
http://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2013/07/22/the-rising-costs-of-aging-perlers-part-1-the-data/
this was good and interesting. not earthshaking but nicely done.
in the sweep of history [as i know it], i view perl as a stepping stone
on the way to the best human computer programming interface we can
imagine. enough time has passed [and then passed again] for smart
programmers to look at perl, take what is good and make something new
that seems better.
the wheel keeps turning. perl is still unique in many ways. i think
[literary] artists and anarchists will always like it because TMTOWTDI.
and to the practical minded; it just works [still].
programming language popularity is based on many things. the days of
world domination are ancient history; but in so far as i can see the
future [i can't], there will always be someone with a programming
problem that will turn to perl for the answer.
thank you larry.
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Re: [Boston.pm] Tuesdays or other for Tech Meetings ?
On 1/8/13 22:28 , Bill Ricker wrote: Wondering why so few (2 and two maybes) RSVP tonight. it ain't like it used to be ... i don't know that this would help, but is it worth looking into maybe broadcasting the meeting over the web ... ? boston ruby does something with google+ and i've watched a few and it's ok. it might work if we had sub groups- a bunch at MIT, some in worcester, maybe a few at a bar in nashua, you get the idea ... dunno ... -- \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : i am alive ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] 19% more modules on CPAN
On 11/23/2011 01:51 PM, Tom Metro wrote: chromatic tweeted: The CPAN has 11.4% more uploaders, 19.4% more modules, and 14.3% more distributions since *last year's* edition of Modern #perl: The Book.` Perl use is still growing? (Or at least CPAN is.) i'd say that's a valid interpretation of that data. either that, or someone's running a script that generates and uploads CPAN modules ... -- http://or8.net/~johns yeah yeah yeah -beatles ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] arriving tonight - emergency social meet monday or tuesday?
greetings On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Was there any consensus on a date (tuesday or monday) and/or a place for my emergency social meet? none that i'm aware of ['like herding cats'] not that anyone asked, but what about 'big city' in allston? not exactly the most picturesque part of the city, but then again, that mostly depends on the perspective of the viewer ... or even the skellig in waltham? i know waltham is not as public transportation friendly as cambridge or boston ... -- \js : verbing weirds language. -calvin [http://or8.net/~johns/] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Comic strip
hi On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Conor Walsh c...@adverb.ly wrote: I haven't checked in recently, but I'm pretty sure that anything he has to present on Perl is not interesting from a Perl perspective and really only interesting from a hey I'm a cool webcomic artist perspective. well, it could be entertaining nonetheless. isn't one of the strengths of the perl community that we're all interested in a lot of different stuff? [like humor] -- \js : verbing weirds language. -calvin [http://or8.net/~johns/] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] let's bring damian here
hey On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: at this point i want to just gauge overall interest and possible corporate help. i will get back with more info as i get it. while i am not a bean counter at my place of employment, i have been told by management that it is likely we can put some money into this. i don't know what the figure is, but as a privately held company with an extremely stingy controller, i don't expect it will be a huge amount. [but every li'l bit helps- right?] -- \js : verbing weirds language. -calvin [http://or8.net/~johns/] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Languages to learn in addition to Perl
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Asa Martin asa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions from this group as to what would make sense to put effort into learning next to make myself more marketable in the Boston area? social engineering /rimshot -- \js : verbing weirds language. -calvin ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Newbie question
hey On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Laura Bethard betha...@nber.org wrote: I have no formal computer training, but I taught myself to use MySQL and Unix as part of my current position. well, if you can do that, you can learn perl. i know i'm gonna get nailed for this, but if you're just making small web-sites, you might look into rails. not as flexible as perl, but often easier to get running [and maintain]. if the db is already there, you may not have that option [as the rails schema may not match what you have]. some of the main perl web application frameworks are HTML::Mason, Catalyst, ... just pick one and go. there are tutorials, mailing lists [boston.pm], irc channels, and google to help you. i'd say just do it. bonne chance. -- \js :-P ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Plan 9
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Tom Metrotmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: Yesterday I saw a Toyota Matrix in Watertown with a vanity plate that read PLAN 9. I wondered if it was someone on one of the local tech lists. yeah- i've seen it too. What was the history again? A bad sci-fi film, then an OS? song by the beatles ... ~ the os was hyped as next gen unix for a while. i think ritchie worked on it. it was designed with scale in mind, so on a single workstation, you weren't seeing the whole amazing picture. i thought it looked cool too. in a way like the mac did in 1984. -- \js [ - . . . ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Baby boy
w00t! On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tobias Theodore Kimball-Ware son of Ronald Kimball and Martha Ware congrats- you forked! -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Meetings July re-schedule and forward / Social
hey On 6/28/08, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about the sunset in allston? we ain't met there for ages. yeah- sunset sounds good to me ... -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] quiz questions
hey On 6/9/08, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the opposite of spaghetti code? fortran cookies -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
hey On 6/5/08, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm...so what was your intention? to just send out a few invites to selected people who were already on linkedin. To join, go to: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/41363/6E675551A940 thx! -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] allow user to download a file from web server
hey On 1/2/08, Xiong, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm struggling with CGI::Pretty to implement a button to let users download files from a web server. um, javascript on click handler? -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] IE7 and JS image object
hey not really perl but wothehell ... On 11/12/07, Alex Brelsfoard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run this test with a cleared cache, and with previous copies in cache. the results do not vary. have you set the no cache headers for the image download? [on the server side] also, in your example, it looks like the onload and onerror methods are empty functions. is this true or just a shorthand? it may be that one of these events needs to fire in order to initiate the download. if the image never is displayed on the page, maybe an IE 'optimization' would delay the request until it is displayed. this is a guess. another approach would be to use a library [prototype, jQuery] to grab the image for you instead of updating the src attribure on the Image object. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Social Meeting in August
hi On 8/14/07, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or would people rather do something on the weekend? i attend so infrequently, i do not expect my preference to carry much weight, but this sunday night [19 aug] would be good for me. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Is there a way to search for referrers?
hi On 1/31/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and you (or your colleague?) never mentioned modperl before which is a totally different animal. apache doesn't usually exit so it will never have the end of process cleanup. just another reason i think modperl is a crock. it isn't perl anymore. wtf! it sure ain't ruby. it's still perl that's executing within apache. it is certainly a different context than what you may be used to- but you could say that about windows perl too. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Tech Meeting Followup
hi RM == Richard Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM There were approximately 4 slices left. Maybe 5? Two cheese, one RM pepper onions, one tomato, and possibly one other. On 1/18/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need much better accuracy than that. this is a critical measurement and needs to be done with fine precision!! it is, the results are just encoded. you may have heard of the algorithm: morse code ... [ducks] -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] teaching kids Perl
hi On 12/1/06, Kate Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... say you were going to teach a child (or several children) of about ten, reasonable technical aptitude, to program using Perl. How would you go about it? well, the main thing would be to connect the programming to another interest. let's say they like harry potter books. you could work on a cgi script to return an arbitrary harry potter quote. all the other stuff [checking input values, randomly accessing arrays] would come out of that. so my big suggestion is to leverage their existing interests as much as possible. good luck!! -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] other campus conference pages
hi ( 05.09.01 14:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: we could maybe do large talks in 34-101 (just off vassar st behind the angular glass entranceway) which holds 325 i think. well, how important is it to have all the talks in the same area? i think having talks at different locations [different buildings] throughout MIT could be asking for lots of perl hackers constantly asking for directions. i'm in favor of the idea [YAPC::redsox, whatever], but i think having most of it in the same place helps a conference do one of the things it's supposed to. -- \js oblique strategy: go to an extreme, move back to a more comfortable place ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] we can meet at mit
hi ( 05.07.08 17:40 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: few mit people seem to be active in pm. they must all think perl is lisp's ugly but smarter step sister! :) no- they just can't get any corporate money using perl ... -- \js oblique strategy: accretion ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] we can meet at mit
hi ( 05.07.08 17:57 -0400 ) Ricker, William: use Boston::Cambridge; that would undoubtedly create a disturbance in the force ... -- \js oblique strategy: do something boring ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Any good mongers out there?
hi ( 05.05.24 15:07 -0400 ) Drew Taylor: Is perl on the way out in Boston? i hope not. there have been threads on the mod_perl list about advocacy. and how java is taking over a lot. the bean counters never liked open source anyway, it goes against their nature [sharing]. -- \js oblique strategy: define an area as `safe' and use it as an anchor ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] (also) Perl
hi ( 05.02.28 21:07 -0500 ) James Linden Rose, III: However Mr. Shwartz's model of the problem does not reflect majority opinion with respect to the breadth of the issue, (especially as it seems to be peppered with idealism and anti-capitalism). whoa- idealism and anti-capitalism smells like free spirit Eh, let us return to my earlier point... a prominent and vocal MINORITY. i don't think this is an issue that's resolved solely by democratic means- what about the merits of the arguments? what about the process of trading opinions? 'because a lot of other people want it' is not a very compelling reason to people who make up their own minds. instead of trying to 'win' the argument on the boston.pm list, you might be better off just trying to set up a certification program. [then the real work will begin] Industry would welcome a more qualified system which addresses specific skills as well. especially the certification industry ... -- \js oblique strategy: do something boring ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Bottom Up
hi ( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London: What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that did free (or low cost) online certification? what if you did that. What it requires is a community spirit, and a little bit of generousity from its members to grant it the possibility of being. i don't think so. what it requires is for somebody to *do the work*. as you've found out, this [and other] topics can generate a lot of postings to an email list. but you won't get any closer to your holy grail of perl certification without somebody actually doing something besides posting to an email list. -- \js oblique strategy: openly resist change ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Bottom Up
hi ( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London: What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that did free (or low cost) online certification? John Saylor said: what if you did that. ( 05.03.01 15:59 -0500 ) Greg London: brilliant. Rather than focus on the goal, shift focus on how impossible it appears to get there. i'm sorry but you appear to be of your mind. i thought that *was* the goal [for you], certification. i'm not saying anything's impossible, i'm just tired of hearing you gripe about the fact that not everyone sees things the same way you do. i think we can both agree that perl certification won't get done on the boston.pm mailing list. all i'm saying is stop complaining and *do* something about it beside try to convince people on this list that you are 'correct'. and i think you've completely misread the cathedral and the bazaar. have you ever heard, 'release early and often'? well, i was saying release something. strategy: openly resist change yeah, I get that about you. btw- they are OBLIQUE strategies, from brian eno. Cause all you're doing right now is obstructing. all you're doing is whining. and all we're doing is calling each other names on a public mailing list. see, we have something in common after all ... -- \js oblique strategy: adding on ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] (also) Perl
hi ( 05.02.25 17:13 -0500 ) Greg London: So, if Certification convinces Mike to allow perl, and Eve isn't an idiot, it's an overall win. and if elephants had wings, they'd be the biggest birds by far. -- \js oblique strategy: ask people to work against their better judgement ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] short-listing languages for applications software development
hi ( 05.02.22 14:38 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: I must add that this is a corporate environment. i guess you should also add 'brain-dead' corporate environment [or maybe that's just implied]. How can I rebut this arguement in a better way? doesn't seem too logical and argument. so you can't use logic to rebut it. I took out Perl. After looking at www.perl.org and the language more, the main item I didn't like is that it is not type safe, there are only three variables types ( http://perlpod.com/5.8.4/pod/perlintro.html#Perl%20variable%20types). Yikes! Although ti has many of the characteristics we listed, it still seems to be used for scripting than for more robust programming. ask your friend if he's ever heard of amazon.com or ticketmaster.com. both use perl. and what's the hangup on types? one thing with perl is that there's more than one way to do it. most coporate types do not like that feature ... -- \js oblique strategy: adding on ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?
hi ( 05.02.07 10:48 -0500 ) Greg London: For a one-time buyer, going to a website to purchase something, it seems like needless overhead to ask them to create an account, make up a password (and figure out a way to remember it), when they're only going to ever make one purchase. yes, but tracking for them [and you] is easier this way. there is no technical requirement, but your customers may feel better with accounts. Examples of big name websites that sell to customers without requiring an account woudl be useful supporting evidence for me to make my case. well, i think you are wrong here. there is more to business than technical operations. the ones i can think of require accounts: amazon.com yahoo shopping those are the only two i've used [not much of a consumer, i'm afraid]. perhaps you could offer both paths [purchases with and without accounts]. -- \js oblique strategy: tape your mouth (given by ritva saarikko) ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?
hi ( 05.02.07 16:04 -0500 ) Greg London: I'll buy pizza for a perlmonger meeting if I can get a definite yes/no answer on these questions. could the site give him a tracking number / one-time password so he could check the status of his order and report a problem? yes Would it be possible to do this in a secure manner? yes [return tracking code over SSL, tracking code is probably a hash of some order related data + nonce] Would it be a secure transaction? define 'secure'- what is your threat model? Would it be any less secure than having the user set up an account and their own password? yes, more prone to spoofing since it's only one piece of info [trakcing number] instead of 2 [username/pw]. so if you can get back to me on what you mean by 'secure transaction' we may be in business. -- \js oblique strategy: you don't have to be ashamed of using your own ideas ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?
Greg London: Would it be any less secure than having the user set up an account and their own password? John Saylor wrote: yes, more prone to spoofing since it's only one piece of info [trakcing number] instead of 2 [username/pw]. ( 05.02.07 17:08 -0500 ) Greg London: Is this if the tracking number / one-time password is tied to the email address that made the order? Or does this describe a tracking number with no associated email address? well, if there is an algorithm to generate the tracking id, it can be spoofed. so maybe the email is used there, and maybe not [maybe the date, maybe a counter, w/e]. i'm also not taking into account the fact that many passwords are easily guessed here. i'm just talking about the information needed to authenticate in some way. someone else wrote in about how many passwords are very easy to guess. a password is probably going to be easier to guess than a tracking id [user error], but it may be pretty easy to generate a tracking id or two. -- \js oblique strategy: short circuit (example; a man eating peas with the idea that they will improve his virility shovels them ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Max hash key length
hi ( 04.12.29 13:13 -0800 ) Palit, Nilanjan: Now, regarding Tom Metro's original suggestion for using an MD5 Digest: I read that the original MD5 algorithm has known issues with collisions. i think it's more that there is a way to produce a collision while altering the file being hashed. this way, you could introduce something into a file and the hash would verify ok. my synopsis may be incorrect as i am not a cryptographer. MD5 hashes have been used to check uniqueness of data on very large scales. it may well be quite sufficient for your needs. you can also use SHA1, but that it produces a larger digest [which may or may not be an issue]. -- \js oblique strategy: remember quiet evenings ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] reading in a directory
hi ( 04.12.07 14:13 -0600 ) Alex Brelsfoard: But say I want to upload all of the pictures from a wedding or something. zip them up into one file. [pre-process] i don't think the browser file selection controls are anywhere near as flexible as local graphical file selection controls. i think you're best off keeping the browser file upload part as simple as possible [since it is already complex and overloaded]. -- \js oblique strategy: work at a different speed ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT - A SpamAssassin question
hi ( 04.11.03 21:29 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: Needless to say 99% is spam! I have some 28MB worth of mail sitting somewhere, waiting to be delivered. I want that 28MB mail to be filtered and forwarded to my cox.net address. so 28MB * 0.99 = 27.72MB of SPAM, 0.28MB of HAM let's say the average mail is 3KB [conservative estimate] 280KB / 3KB = 93.3 mails hmm ... 93 mails was more than i was anticipating, but i still think you should just throw them all away. how many times do you get an opportunity like this where you can lose mail with a plausable technical explanation? i mean, usually, you can just say- 'o, it must have gotten eaten by my filter' or 'i must have deleted it accidentally when i was cleaning out my inbox'. -- \js oblique strategy: change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Wiki
hi ( 04.08.05 19:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: at least we should have meeting info and directions, talk subjects, a who's who page of members, job stuff?, boston perl things (what??), etc. maybe some of those things go on the main web site- don't need to duplicate lists. wiki is better for putting things up to share [and modify], little one-of projects, [buzzword alert] collaboration. why not just run it up the flagpole and see who salutes! -- \js oblique strategy: the inconsistency principle ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] possibly off-topic: html, metadata, and a perl script???
hi ( 04.08.06 11:11 -0400 ) Greg London: I usually use OpenOffice to create my html. hmm ... Do I need a perl script that takes my html and inserts the metadata into it? Or can I do it in OO? just use a text editor [vim, notepad, the emacs operating system, whatever] and cut and paste. I know basically zip about HTML. well, this might be a good opportunity to learn something. because it's so ubiquitous, i'm sure your efforts in learning some parts of it won't be wasted. -- \js oblique strategy: straight into his lap) ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Wiki
hi i think setting up a wiki of somekind is a great idea. it can even be a link off of http://boston.pm.org/ if the people who own that site want to maintain some independence and control. ( 04.08.05 10:19 -0400 ) David: These two issues may indicate that a wiki which allows an admin group and locked pages is essential. i think twiki can do this. i'm kinda running one, but i haven't RTFM so i'm not completely sure ... -- \js oblique strategy: mute and continue ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] CGI::Carp and mod_perl
hi ( 04.08.03 17:57 -0400 ) Ron Newman: die Death by chocolate\n; could be the newline at the end. also try 'warn'-ing instead of 'die'-ing. -- \js oblique strategy: use an unacceptable color ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Re: Uploading a picture with perl
hi ( 04.08.02 19:32 -0400 ) Alex Brelsfoard: But I am a bit curious to know if there is a way to do this without using CGI.pm. sure, mod_perl [much faster, lighter]. the interface is a bit better than CGI.pm, but not a whole lot. i just think it's a tricky thing to be doing anyway [uploading files]. -- \js oblique strategy: do nothing for as long as possible ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Assignment to Convoluted Data Structure
hi
( 04.07.16 08:26 -0400 ) William Goedicke:
And, pure and simple, I can't get the syntax right.
i'd do this.
my $hr = {
'NAME'=$results[0],
'ID'=$id,
'TYPE'=$results[1],
'TARGETFIELD'=$id+10
};
push ( @{ $VAR1-{TARGETTABLE}-{SOURCETABLE} }, $hr );
TMTOWTDI!
Politically I sit in that middle ground between Fidel Castro
and the hardcore anarchists.
http://blackteasociety.org/
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Re: [Boston.pm] Meeting topic?
hi ( 04.07.16 14:09 -0400 ) James Eshelman: POE--perl object environment. I'm thinking of using it and would love to hear case stories from any who have -- both pleasures and pitfalls. i used it to write an irc monitor once. it was pretty nice. i'm sure uri's got something to say, since i think stem is built on it [or something similar]. -- \js oblique strategy: breathe more deeply ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] [Offtopic] Meeting space for J2ME SIG
hi ( 04.07.07 18:57 -0400 ) Arun Nagarajan: I know there were a lot of offers for meeting space posted previously for the Boston PM crew - I was wondering if any of that will still be available for a 20 person J2ME SIG? java programmers need help from perl programmers? oh right- happens all the time ... -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] sprintf sign handling question?
hi not having seen the code, this is a guess. ( 04.06.22 22:54 -0400 ) Bob Mariotti: I have a perl program that extracts data from a report file. Some of the fields (columns) are monetary with a trailing sign (i.e: 1,234.56-). However, I am having problems with sign handling. Can anyone please offer suggestions to help me arrive at the following: i think you're doing too much processing. why do you move the negative operator at all if you want to keep it in the same place. just treat them as strings throughout. -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Tech Meeting Followup
hi ( 04.06.15 23:48 -0400 ) Chris Devers: * Time::Space::Continuum http://damian.conway.org/Seminars//TimeSpace.html space is the place ... -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] list viruses
hi ( 04.05.06 11:46 -0400 ) Philipp Hanes: I use MS Outlook 2000 (not much choice at the office). that's a big problem. outlook is the most massively broken piece of software released by microsoft [and *that's* saying something]. it's like complaining that your scooter won't move very fast in a field. you've got to have another choice. you can pop it off of an exchange server and use thunderbird. Of course, if someone can help me tweak Outlook to make these nested messages less of a pain to read, I'd be quite grateful too :-) dump outlook! -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Secure email
hi ( 04.02.16 14:08 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: Has anyone created any application that uses secure email using GPG pr PGP? mutt I wonder if I can generate a certificate that the recipient can install for encrypting/decrypting mail from me. I was thinking of using OpenSSL to generate the certificate. yes, or just a key pair with gnupg/pgp. this follows the breakdown in MIME types: cert S/MIME, gpg/pgp PGP/MIME. Could someone point me in the right direction please? google -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] perl document license?
hi ( 04.01.24 12:58 -0800 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been working on a perl training document I was planning on putting it on CPAN i'm not sure there's even a place for it there. maybe use.perl.org? do people use the perl license for their documentation too? people do all kinds of things with licensing. try http://www.creativecommons.org/ -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] joke CPAN modules
hi ( 04.01.24 16:47 -0800 ) steve: Hey, am I the only one to be burned by a CPAN module that turned out to be a joke? yes -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] new to the group
hi ( 03.12.16 13:06 -0500 ) Sean Quinlan: Anyone interested in a pub meet over the holidays? i'll drink to that. -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
[Boston.pm] outlook bashing
hi ( 03.11.11 09:20 -0500 ) James Sullivan: Also i believe there's some sort of security in Outlook that prevents reading of files off your disks. no, no, no- the security in outlook allows other programs to send email to everyone in your address book whenever they want to. -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] RSA public key authentication in Net::SSH::Perl
hi ( 03.10.31 17:54 -0500 ) Chris Braiotta: That makes sense, and was something I finally figured out, but didn't seem to help. i think you have more of a problem with ssh authorization and key management than with perl. crypto is not always easy [if it's going to be effective]. i think you are not using the right keys, or the ssh module is not able to use them for some reason. i've never used this module before, so i'm afraid that's where my help ends- good luck! -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT - Apache upgrade, ApacheSSL and mod_perl on Linux (Redhat)
hi ( 03.10.23 13:38 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan: Looks like both ApacheSSL and mod_ssl work only with Apache 1.3 i don't think so: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_ssl.html -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Postal address De-duping
hi ( 03.08.04 17:12 -0400 ) Joel Gwynn: we're looking for a fast, customizable de-duping solution. I was thinking there might be some perl stuff out there, really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while sleeping. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Postal address De-duping
hi On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:07 AM, John Saylor wrote: really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while sleeping. ( 03.08.05 19:21 +0100 ) David Cantrell: No, it's quite a hard problem. i guess it depends on the way the problem is defined by the client. as you might have guessed, the problem i was thinking of was considerably simpler than the example you outlined in your response. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] emacs discussion
hi ( 03.07.09 22:20 -0400 ) Chris Devers: I wish I could think of better metaphors for this, because intuitively it seems clear to me that there are plenty of examples of things that are very complex and yet still not necessarily challenging. this seems too one dimentional- i think most things have a range of complexity. if all you do is email and web, osx can be simple. if you want to do something different, maybe something unique, that's more challenging. Bach maybe? again, simple to complex [musikalisches opfer]. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] emacs discussion
hi ( 03.07.08 21:48 -0400 ) William Goedicke: [X]emacs is nigh ultimately functioal and free. freedom can also be measured in many ways [memory footprint]. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] .Net platform and Perl - feedback please
hi ( 03.07.02 21:25 -0400 ) John Sequeira: If I had a choice, though, I would make life really simple and just write a COM control or Windows Script Component. Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! [apologies to Orwell, RIP] -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Komodo vs. emacs
hi ( 03.07.03 08:18 -0400 ) Charles Reitzel: A programmer's editor is his or her hammer. while i have seen code written like that, i prefer to think of it as a pencil. i use vim pretty much all the time. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: Of spice and spawn (was Re: [Boston.pm] possible party june 28)
hi ( 03.06.03 09:39 -0400 ) Kevin Jackson-Mead: spice eq spouses yikes- i can only handle 1 ... -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Perl 6 has become too complex
hi ( 03.03.14 09:13 -0500 ) Tolkin, Steve: Please advise me as to how to proceed. i think you can email either damian or larry [psuedo-] directly. or post something on perlmonks.org. or you can start your own fork of the perl code- that's one of the benefits of open source. -- .--- ... [ x ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Re: Slightly off topic from Hartford PM Group
hi ( 03.02.27 08:03 -0500 ) Bob Mariotti: When the user select the data desired to be downloaded from the page our perl programs issue a content-type: directive. have you tried: application/octet-stream and using the content-disposition header? -- .--- ... [ x ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Linux experiment
hi ( 03.02.04 23:35 -0500 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Linux started to lock up at different stages about a month or so ago. anything in /var/log to explain the lock up? Short of calling Penguin Computing and buying a new system, does anyone have any cheaper ideas? freeBSD? -- .--- ... [no iraq war] ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] getting values out of symbol tables
Hi ( 03.01.17 13:56 -0500 ) Dan Sugalski: Typeglobs are all that's in symbol tables. You need to look in the globs if you want to get values. But how do I do this? Do I open () them? Do I dereference them? I've been digging through the camel book [and writing test scripts] without success. Any pointers or suggestions welcome. -- .--- ... ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] question puzzle
Hi ( 02.10.10 17:09 -0400 ) Chris Devers: Is it cheating to brute force the puzzle with a computer? :) That's a well known problem solving strategy. Ask RSA ... -- .--- ... ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] question puzzle
Hi ( 02.10.10 17:16 -0400 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone needs to write a code analysis tool to measure the complexity and general unreadability of a piece of perl code. Of course, these are 2 independent metrics. Then, when these kinds of puzzles come up, people can compete to have the most readable code, rather than the shortest, and most useless version of the code. If it works, it wins. Readability is in the mind of the beholder. -- .--- ... ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
