Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Bill Ricker
> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?

Even after the burglary, the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum is still
worth a trip. Maybe not be top of the list for a 10 hour visit, but it
deserves to be on the list.

http://www.gardnermuseum.org/

This list of cultural featues in our YAPC bid would be a good starting
point for this discussion and a good place to archive the suggestions!
http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/index.cgi?YAPCBrainStorming

It's possible the new Institute of Contemporary Art will be open by
the time you get here .. it's "postponed to later in the fall".


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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Greg London
 
Oh, all right, I'll jump in with a historical tour you could probably do.
It's the Freedom Trail, but not in sequential order.
 
Start the afternoon, take a cab to the Bunker Hill memorial.
Walk to the top if you're interested and have the stamina.
>From there, I think you can walk down to Old Ironsides.
I think you'll want to see these during the day.
 
>From Old Ironsides, take a cab to the Boston Common
hook up with the Freedom Trail there
 
http://www.nps.gov/archive/bost/freedom_trail_ch1.htm
 
The Boston Commons was the original*  "Commons"
where everyone grazed their cattle, and any good
advocate of FLOSS should see it. (* in US anyway)
 
from there, follow the Freedom Trail and see the
 
Granary Burial Ground. You'll see where Paul Revere, 
Sam Adams, and John Hancock are buried. then on to the
 
Old State House, see the marker for where the Boston Massacre occurred.
http://www.bostonmassacre.net/place/location1.htm
 
then through Fanieul Hall and on to Paul Revere's House
and the Old North Church where the 
"one if by land, two if by sea" lanterns were hung.
 
Paul Revere's house is in the North End, and only
a few blocks away from Hanover Street, which
is chock full of restaurants, which by this time, you'll
be starving, and this is the place to mangia mangia.
 
>From there, take a cab back to wherever.
 
It's basically the Freedom Trail, but chopped up and 
reordered a bit. My wife and I walked it once start to finish
in sequential order, only to discover there's a whole
lot nothing separating Old Ironsides / Bunker
Hill monument from the rest of the trail. (I think the
total length is ~3 miles.)
 
If you do it in the order I list, you'll see the 
bunker hill memorial and old ironsides while
the sun is still out (which you'll want) and you'll
end up in the North End by the time it's dark,
you'll be hungry and surrounded by good restaraunts.
 
 
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Ron Newman

>If you're coming in with a cruise ship, you might be docking somewhere
>near the aquarium

Maybe, but Black Falcon terminal in South Boston is more likely.  Unfortunately,
that's not near much of anything.  You can take a Silver Line bus from there
to South Station, or get a water taxi to the Aquarium -- 
http://www.citywatertaxi.com

 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On 15 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
>>> "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> JA> David H. Adler wrote:
 So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
 Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
 What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?
>>
>> i assume that is a day stop here? what hours?
>
> Yep. I believe we dock at 8am and set sail (motor?) at 6pm.

This is a Sunday I think.  I think walking around Boston on a Sunday
is a wonderful experience.

If you're coming in with a cruise ship, you might be docking somewhere
near the aquarium, which is well worth a visit in my opinion.  From
there you can go to the North End in 10 minutes.

The North End has good food (Mike's Pastry is a must for sweets, and
their bread is great too).  Look around, there's plenty of inexpensive
restaurants.  Paul Revere's house is there too, and many visitors like
to see it.

>From the North End you can walk across the road to the downtown area,
following the Freedom Trail basically.  If you have the energy, keep
walking to the Boston Common and you'll see plenty of nice
architecture.  You may want to avoid the "Cheers" bar which is on the
side of the Common.  Walk on Commonwealth Avenue or Newbury Street a
little bit, then head to Copley Square--you'll see Trinity Church, the
library, and plenty more.

You can get back through the Theater District and Chinatown, or (if
you're tired) take the Green line to the Red line (switch at Park
Street), which will drop you off at South Station, close to where you
started.

Another point of interest is the USS Constitution, "Old Ironsides,"
the famous ship docked in Charlestown not far from downtown.  You may
see it from the cruise ship.

Ted
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Ron Newman
>> on Oct. 22nd. 

>If the Red Sox are *not* playing

This year, that's a VERY safe assumption ;-(
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Uri Guttman wrote:

> > "MV" == Minh Vo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   MV>   If you haven't seen Blueman Group, they have a show at 2pm
>   MV> on Oct. 22nd. Very "interesting" show...
> 
> you may not realize that blue man started in nyc (where dave and mom 
> live) and so they could see it there. also we still don't know the 
> time window of the port visit. assuming mostly daytime, i doubt an 
> evening show will work for them.

Good thing he specified 2pm then :-)
 
> we just need to point them to boston stuff which doesn't have much of 
> a counterpart in nyc.

Vaguely moving from west to east (i.e. probably backwards...), here's 
some ideas:

If the Red Sox are *not* playing, you can take a tour of Fenway Park 
(which I personally found more fun than a game, but then I'm not into 
baseball). You get to go to the press box, on top of the Green Monster, 
and behind home plate. Sadly, they don't let you go on the field though.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ballpark/tour.jsp

As a kid I really liked the Mapparium at the Christian Science center. 
The exhibit got renovated a few years ago, and when I went back to see 
it again a couple of years ago, I still liked the globe itself, but not 
so much the museum they had for the CS stuff. Oh well.

http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/exhibits/mapparium.jhtml

The old/original wing of the Boston Public Library (the McKim Building, 
I've just learned) is cool. An art-student friend visited a few years 
ago and was content to just hang out there for several hours, looking at 
the building itself, the books, and the free exhibits upstairs. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Public_Library

Also on Copley Square is Trinity Church, which I keep meaning to go walk 
around some day. The outside is fantastic. Hm, maybe I'll go there today 
now that I think about it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Church%2C_Boston

Also on or near Copley Square are the John Hancock and Prudential 
towers. The John Hancock Tower was one of the first all-glass 
skyscrapers in the world, and took a few years post-construction to get 
right (huge panes of glass falling 60 stories onto the sidewalk, the 
slow realization that a good stong gust could knock the whole building 
over, etc -- the usual). It's the tallest building in the city and so 
used to have the best views of it, but the observation deck closed after 
Sept 11, so the Prudential Center's Skywalk Observatory is now the 
highest place to get views of the city. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hancock_Tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudential_Tower
http://www.prudentialcenter.com/play/skywalk.html

If you're going to do a Duck Tour, the tours start from the Prudential 
Center, the Museum of Science, or Faneuil Hall. 

http://www.bostonducktours.com/tickets_main.html
http://www.prudentialcenter.com/play/ducktours.html

I'm not sure what a good vantage point is to see it, but the new Zakim 
Bridge is impressive. You can see if fairly close from the Museum of 
Science and the USS Constitution, and closer still from the EF Building 
(which also has a big slab from the Berlin Wall on public display out 
front); if you take a Duck Boat tour, I think they go pretty close to 
the, as well as the Berlin Wall piece.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakim_Bunker_Hill_Bridge
http://www.leonardpzakimbunkerhillbridge.org/
http://www.google.com/maps?q=ef+education&near=Boston,+MA&cid=42358333,-71060278,357515942939126501

(The Google map gets the EF spot slightly off -- across from the Museum 
of Science, on the other side of the Green Line causeway bridge, the EF 
Building is straight ahead on the right side of the street. Zoom the map 
all the way in and, though it isn't clear what you're looking at, the 
Berlin Wall segment is visible to the left of the cluster of trees and 
to the right of the patio in front of the building, casting a shadow 
onto the patio.

http://www.google.com/maps?q=ef+education&near=Boston,+MA&cid=42358333,-71060278,357515942939126501&ll=42.369438,-71.071064&spn=0.00151,0.00239&t=h
http://karl.hiramoto.org/photo-album/2001/ed-jo-pictures-summer2001/2%20July%2001%20Boston-Kate/tn/Berlin%20Wall.jpg.html

Ah, it looks like the Head of the Charles (rowing / sculling regatta) is 
that weekend, that might be worth checking out. You can see it from 
either side of the river, starting downstream near the BU Boathouse, 
upstream past Harvard to the finish line Herter Park. Alternately, if 
this isn't your cuppa tea, you may wish to avoid the race route and 
nearby areas (e.g. Harvard Square), as they'll probably be mobbed.

http://www.hocr.org/home/default.asp
http://www.hocr.org/pdf/shuttlen.pdf



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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Thursday, Sep 14th 2006 at 17:16 -0400, quoth John Abreau:

=>David H. Adler wrote:
=>> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
=>> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
=>> 
=>> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?
=>> 
=>> Thanks.
=>> 
=>> dha
=>> 
=>
=>A few things that come to mind:
=>
=>* Freedom Trail - walking tour of historic sites from the American
=>Revolution
=>* Old Ironsides - famous naval warship from Colonial times
=>* Faneuil Hall marketplace
=>* Museum of Fine Arts
=>* Computer Museum
=>* Fenway Park, if the Red Sox are playing that day

* The hookers in the Combat Zone.
* A tour of the tiles in the tunnels.
* Breakfast at the 4 seasons is always fun. Coffee and donut for $75.
* See the leaves turning color. (Oh wait. Not this year.)
* Tour of Boston on Duck Tours. (Don't fall into the Charles. Love that 
  dirty waddah...)

Seriously, I don't know if it'll still be there, but check out 
Plastination at the Museum of Science. :-)

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-15 Thread Tolkin, Steve
Two in Cambridge are well worth seeing (especially for people who live here! :)

MIT Museum -- great permanent collection on robots, MIT hacks, holograms, 
mechanical sculptures by Arthur Ganson,   and usually also a variable show.  
http://web.mit.edu/museum/

Harvard Museum -- the world famous (and deservedly so) glass flowers.


Hopefully helpfully yours, 
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Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> >>>>> "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   JA> David H. Adler wrote:
>   >> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
>   >> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
>   >> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?
> 
> i assume that is a day stop here? what hours?

Yep. I believe we dock at 8am and set sail (motor?) at 6pm.

[snip suggestions]
> 
> another possible idea is an emergency pm social lunch.

This, of course, is a definite possiblity.

dha

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> > "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   JA> David H. Adler wrote:
>   >> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
>   >> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
>   >> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?
> 
> i assume that is a day stop here? what hours?

Yep. I believe we dock at 8am and set sail (motor?) at 6pm.

[snip suggestions]
> 
> another possible idea is an emergency pm social lunch.

This, of course, is a definite possiblity.

dha

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread Uri Guttman
> "MV" == Minh Vo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  MV>   If you haven't seen Blueman Group, they have a show at 2pm on Oct.  
  MV> 22nd. Very "interesting" show...

you may not realize that blue man started in nyc (where dave and mom
live) and so they could see it there. also we still don't know the time
window of the port visit. assuming mostly daytime, i doubt an evening
show will work for them.

  MV>   I agree with Uri on visiting Boston Common/public gardens. It's a  
  MV> very nice place for photos and the like. Chinatown is a few minutes  
  MV> walk away, so if you're feeling adventurous (and hungry), I suggest  
  MV> you give Shabu-Zen (www.shabuzen.com) a try. Everyone I've brought  
  MV> there have enjoyed it. :)

and nyc has an even bigger and probably better chinatown. :)

we just need to point them to boston stuff which doesn't have much of a
counterpart in nyc.

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread Minh Vo
John and Uri pretty much suggested all the good spots to see in Boston.
Adding a few suggestions of my own onto the list:

  If you haven't seen Blueman Group, they have a show at 2pm on Oct.  
22nd. Very "interesting" show...

  I agree with Uri on visiting Boston Common/public gardens. It's a  
very nice place for photos and the like. Chinatown is a few minutes  
walk away, so if you're feeling adventurous (and hungry), I suggest  
you give Shabu-Zen (www.shabuzen.com) a try. Everyone I've brought  
there have enjoyed it. :)

  Boston's South End is also a great neighborhood to visit for its  
architecture and quality Italian food.

- M



 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread Bob Rogers
   From: Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:42:48 -0400

   > "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 JA> David H. Adler wrote:
 >> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
 >> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
 >> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?

 JA> A few things that come to mind:

 JA> * Computer Museum

   that isn't here anymore IIRC. i could be wrong. but knowing dha's mom
   (from travel agent biz) she won't be into that.

At least some of it got folded into the Museum of Science:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Computer_Museum

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread Uri Guttman
> "JA" == John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  JA> David H. Adler wrote:
  >> So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
  >> Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.
  >> What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?

i assume that is a day stop here? what hours?

  JA> A few things that come to mind:

  JA> * Freedom Trail - walking tour of historic sites from the American
  JA> Revolution
  JA> * Old Ironsides - famous naval warship from Colonial times

two classics (but never did either myself).

  JA> * Faneuil Hall marketplace

too touristy. they are travel agent folks and prolly want more
interesting things to do.

  JA> * Museum of Fine Arts

good choice. check out what the special event is on display.

  JA> * Computer Museum

that isn't here anymore IIRC. i could be wrong. but knowing dha's mom
(from travel agent biz) she won't be into that.

  JA> * Fenway Park, if the Red Sox are playing that day

fat chance they will be and if they are thinner chance to get a ticket
to a playoff game. :)

a duck boat tour (touristy but actually very good. we did it a bunch of
years ago). dunno if they will still be running that late in the fall.

public gardens. great place to stroll and see nice green things and
people watch.

tour mit and/or harvard (depending on your taste).

browse harvard sq (not like it was 30 years ago).

another possible idea is an emergency pm social lunch.

uri

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Re: [Boston.pm] Short time in Boston

2006-09-14 Thread John Abreau

David H. Adler wrote:

So. Mom and I are taking a cruise next month up the east coast and into
Canada. We've got a day (22 Oct, if I've got this all right) in Boston.

What should we do in the... 10 hours we're there?

Thanks.

dha



A few things that come to mind:

* Freedom Trail - walking tour of historic sites from the American
Revolution
* Old Ironsides - famous naval warship from Colonial times
* Faneuil Hall marketplace
* Museum of Fine Arts
* Computer Museum
* Fenway Park, if the Red Sox are playing that day


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