Re: Star Wars Quiz

2005-05-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:35 AM Saturday 5/14/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 
0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 
0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 
0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 
0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Are we back to generating factorials again?
-- Ronn!  :)
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Re: Brin: Lucas Film Business Model

2005-05-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert J. Chassell wrote:

 Rather than do this, I think that a government of either the US, or
 Western Europe, or Japan, or China should spend 2% or more of its
 gross domestic product each year on researching and developing
 alternative sources of energy, and plan to do so for the next 20 years
 (although the time might be less).  A government should do this if
 only for the military benefits of possible independence.

The USA _is_ doing that: currently the greatest world producers in
ethanol to replace gasoline are Brazil and the USA. We started
the program in 1974 (or so - but back in the 30s we already had
alcohol cars), but the USA started it quite recently.

Alberto Monteiro

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possible aurora this weekend

2005-05-14 Thread Gary Nunn
 

Space Weather News for May 14, 2005
http://spaceweather.com

A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading for Earth following a strong solar
flare on May 13th.  Sky watchers should be alert for auroras when the cloud
arrives on May 14th or 15th.  The display, if it materializes, will be best
over high latitudes--e.g., Alaska and Canada.  But CMEs sometimes spark
auroras over lower latitudes, too, so everyone should keep an eye on the sky
this weekend.

Visit http://spaceweather.com for updates.



 

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Lawrence Lindsey on SS reform

2005-05-14 Thread Erik Reuter
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=printfriendlyid=2627

House Committee on Ways and Means

Statement of The Honorable Lawrence B. Lindsey, President and Chief
Executive Officer, The Lindsey Group, Fairfax, Virginia

Testimony Before the House Committee on Ways and Means

May 12, 2005

Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee, I am honored to have been
asked to testify today on the issue of Social Security reform.  It is
surprising that the issue of promoting national saving is not at the
center of the current debate over Social Security reform, and that will
be the focus of my comments today.

Last year Americans spent . on consumption, investment, and government
-- $1.06 for every dollar they earned.  We balanced our collective
checkbook only by selling assets we owned and by borrowing directly
from foreigners, including institutions like the People.s Bank of
China, to whom one might prefer not to be increasingly indebted.  This
borrowing is directly tied to an ever growing trend for us to consume
foreign-produced goods at the expense of American production.  Done
right, the reform process offers enormous potential for improving our
national saving rate and thus reducing the amount we will be borrowing
from foreigners over the next century.

The first part of any credible Social Security reform plan is to
permanently eliminate the actuarial deficit in the system.  Currently
the system has promised to pay out, in present value terms, $11 trillion
more than it will collect in revenue.  There are a number of ways of
closing this gap, but with different implications for national saving.

For example, it would take a 28 percent increase in payroll taxes to
make sure that the government collected all the money it needed to meet
benefit promises over time.  This would, if three conditions were met,
temporarily increase saving.  First, the government, in contrast with
historical evidence, must not spend the extra revenue on non-retirement
spending. Second, the adverse effects of the tax increase on the economy
must not lower government revenue from non-payroll tax sources.  Third,
private citizens, faced with declining disposable incomes, must cover
the entire shortfall from reduced consumption, not by reducing their
saving.

Even if these three conditions were met, the saving reduction would be
temporary. Once Social Security payments caught up with the enhanced
revenue, the plan would forever be moving money from one set of people
who would spend the money . workers . to another set of people who would
spend the money . retirees.  So, even in the best case, a tax increase
would do nothing to increase national saving over the long run.

But, because these conditions are unlikely to be met, a tax hike would
not produce the intended amount of increased national saving even in
the short run, and would likely lower national saving in the longer
run. The combined adverse effects on existing personal saving and the
disincentive effects on working and on entrepreneurship, are likely
significant.

This would be particularly true of ideas to raise or eliminate the wage
cap that determines both Social Security taxes and Social Security
benefits.  Martin Feldstein calculated that eliminating the cap
would reduce net federal revenue since the behavioral response by
entrepreneurs to a tax hike that took their tax rate back up to nearly
50 percent would reduce federal income tax revenue as well as produce
lower than expected payroll tax receipts.  Moreover, much of the
entrepreneurial income that would be taxed would have funded business
fixed investment.  Thus, this particular tax idea would likely lower
both national saving and economic growth.

The second way of bringing the system into balance is to change the
formula for determining benefits now, in a way that gradually reduces
the current growth rate in real benefits.  Currently Social Security
projects a 50 percent increase in benefits, even after inflation, over
the next half century.  The system could be brought into balance by
limiting future benefits to the level of benefits enjoyed by those
retiring from the system now, while fully indexing those benefits to
inflation.  This could even be coupled with a generous minimum Social
Security benefit, thus making the system both more progressive and
providing a better safety net, with little adverse effect on national
saving.  The $11 trillion saving to the Social Security system of
doing this could be viewed as a one-time improvement in the federal
government.s balance sheet of the same amount, but with an equivalent
reduction for future retirees, as benefits would not rise as fast as
they might now expect.

But, national saving would likely rise as a result.  In order to
maintain the level of consumption in retirement that the government
previously promised, but could not deliver, individuals would have to
gradually increase their personal saving during their working lives.
This may not be easy for 

Re: Lawrence Lindsey on SS reform

2005-05-14 Thread Gary Denton
On 5/14/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=printfriendlyid=2627
 
 House Committee on Ways and Means
 
 Statement of The Honorable Lawrence B. Lindsey, President and Chief
 Executive Officer, The Lindsey Group, Fairfax, Virginia
 
 Testimony Before the House Committee on Ways and Means
 
 May 12, 2005
 
 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee, I am honored to have been
 asked to testify today on the issue of Social Security reform. It is
 surprising that the issue of promoting national saving is not at the
 center of the current debate over Social Security reform, and that will
 be the focus of my comments today.
 
 Last year Americans spent . on consumption, investment, and government
 -- $1.06 for every dollar they earned. We balanced our collective
 checkbook only by selling assets we owned and by borrowing directly
 from foreigners, including institutions like the People.s Bank of
 China, to whom one might prefer not to be increasingly indebted. This
 borrowing is directly tied to an ever growing trend for us to consume
 foreign-produced goods at the expense of American production. Done
 right, the reform process offers enormous potential for improving our
 national saving rate and thus reducing the amount we will be borrowing
 from foreigners over the next century.
 
 The first part of any credible Social Security reform plan is to
 permanently eliminate the actuarial deficit in the system. Currently
 the system has promised to pay out, in present value terms, $11 trillion
 more than it will collect in revenue. There are a number of ways of
 closing this gap, but with different implications for national saving.
 

Anyone who starts out this badly falsely representing the state of Social 
Security is pursuing a different agenda I am not interested in.

He and other Republicans make the shortfall seem as big as possible by using 
dollar figures and estimates for an infinite horizon. Instead of 
emphasizing that the shortfall over seventy-five years is 1.92 percent of 
payroll, which can obviously be eliminated by any combination of income 
increases or benefit reductions that are equivalent to a 1 percent increase 
in the contribution rate for employees and employers each, the GOP talks 
about a present value shortfall of $11.1 trillion figured over an infinite 
horizon, adding up shortfalls decade after decade for hundreds of years 
after the program's financing could quite easily have been fixed.

$11.1 trillion sure sounds big! But it is not pointed out that estimates 
using the infinite horizon approach would show a gross domestic product so 
huge that the total future shortfall in Social Security would weigh in at 
only about 1.2%.

Let us contrast that with a Dem plan to balance Social Security and not just 
for the next 75 years. The Robert Ball plan.

1. Gradually raise the cap on earnings covered by Social Security so that 
once again 90 percent of all such earnings would be taxed and counted for 
benefits. 
2. Beginning in 2010, dedicate the proceeds of the revised estate tax to 
Social Security. (Hey, someone else thought this was a good idea.) This 
would make the 2009 $7 million dollar exemption for couples permanent 
instead of the GOP plans to abolish the estate tax entirely.
3. Improve the return on Social Security funds by gradually investing part 
of them in equities, 

These three steps bring Social Security to with actuarial defined acceptable 
risk/close balance previously used for Social Security and long term 
pensions but let us go further.

4. Replace the present COLA with the chained CPI inflation factor.
5. Make the program universal - bring all state and local employers under 
it.

This puts the plan in a slight surplus using the GOP Social Security 
governors accounting This does only protect Social Security for the next 75 
years or more. So make a future automatic correction.

6. If in 2023 or later when the ratio of the trust funds at the beginning of 
a year to the benefits in the following year starts to decline increase the 
employer and employee contribution by 0.5%.

Result a plan in balance or surplus for over a century and perhaps to 
infinity and beyond.

Robert M. Ball served as Commissioner of Social Security under Presidents 
Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon, served on many statutory advisory councils, and 
on the bipartisan commission that produced the 1983 amendments. His latest 
book is Insuring the Essentials: Bob Ball on Social Security, (New York: The 
Century Foundation Press, 2000).
http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp

I am not in complete agreement with this plan. The chained CPI uses a lot of 
subtle and difficult to quantify estimates of the value of improvements in 
new merchandise and I think a CPI index for seniors and people actually 
receiving Social Security is needed.

Still this is for those wanting a Democratic alternate to all the plans 
proposed which reduce benefits more and 

Re: Star Trek signs off tonight....

2005-05-14 Thread Damon Agretto

The hot Vulcan was right - she was also right about the poor scripts for
most of the first two seasons.
So much potential, so much...
Damon.

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Now Building: Ertl's TIE Fighter

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Re: The American Political Landscape today

2005-05-14 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's nice to know that, despite the opinions of some
 among our
 august body, we liberals are *not* out of the
 mainstream, we
 *are* the mainstream.
 
 Dave

A hypothetical...there are four groups in a
population.  Each with 20% of the population.  We can
set them up this way:

20% very conservative
20% conservative
20% moderate
20% liberal

Now, where would the mainstream be in that block of
four, exactly?  Note that this is actually not a bad
approximation of what the American public looks like. 
It's not that you're not in the mainstream, Dave, it's
that you're so detached from it _you don't even know
where it is_.  

Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freedom is not free
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com



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reality based thinking

2005-05-14 Thread d.brin
Some of you have been dropping by my blog where a lively discussion 
of The Enlightenment and its Enemies has been going on.

Here's a few items just sent to me by a (admittedly radical) friend.
1. an article that, while liberal, analyses this administration in 
conservative terms.  Alas, the author ignores an additional fact... 
that Al Gore reduced the actual number of pages and words of federal 
law for the 1st time in US history.

http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20050516s=chait051605
 EXCERPT: None of these accounts, though, goes very far toward 
explaining what Bush has done and why he has done it. If government 
has expanded under Bush because of hostile currents of public 
opinion, then it should have expanded even faster under President 
Clinton, who was less conservative than the current president. But, 
in fact, non-defense spending as a percentage of the economy actually 
declined under Clinton, from 17 percent of gross domestic product to 
15.5 percent, before rising smartly under the present administration 
from 15.5 to 16.5 percent. (Did homeland security contribute to the 
rise in spending under Bush? Just a bit: It accounts for about 
one-seventh of the domestic spending hikes.) Conservatives haven't 
explained why a moderate liberal like Clinton had an easier time than 
Bush in resisting popular demand to spend.

For a more lengthy, empirical analysis of Borrow and Spend Big 
Government Republican policies, be sure to check out this Cato study: 
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa543.pdf

And when the Cato Institute goes against the GOP, you know that 
something has gone so rotten that it makes even THEIR heads turn.


2/  Oh, for the good old days.  Could you imagine comments like these 
coming from a Republican politician in 2005?

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, 
unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, 
you would not hear of that party again in our political history. 
There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do 
these things. Among them are [a] few other Texas oil millionaires, 
and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their 
number is negligible and they are stupid.
- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 11/8/54

However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious
beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than
Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme
being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's
behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing
throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.
They are trying to force government leaders into following their
position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a
particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of
money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political
preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to
be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do
they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right
to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a
legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who
thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll
call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every
step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all
Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'
Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 9/16/81
Well, I admit that Ike and Goldwater are two of my conservative 
heroes.  Real intellects and patriots. 

Eisenhower also warned against the acquisition of unwarranted 
influence... by the military industrial complex. remember?  He went 
on to say this - a pro-transparency statement if there ever was one.
Only an alert and knowledgable citizenry can compel the proper 
meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with 
our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may 
prosper together.

THIS is why I am so steamed at the ACLU for the WAY that they oppose 
the #$#@@$# Patriot Act.  They oppose the small, incremental ways 
that the FBI can now surveil a little better... chickenfeed! 
Meanwhile they ignore (almost) the really scary parts of that law. 
The parts letting our paid protector caste operate in the dark, 
without supervision or oversight.  eeek.

3/  Finally Breaking News (lightening up)
RUMSFELD UPGRADES IRAQ FROM QUAGMIRE TO MORASS
Situation Disastrous But Not Catastrophic, Defense Sec'y Says
After taking a look at what is going on there on the ground, it is 
my judgment that it is time to upgrade Iraq from quagmire to morass, 
Mr. Rumsfeld said, adding that he was very confident in making the 
new assessment.

4/  Speaking of lightening up, be sure to check 

Re: Brin: Lucas Film Business Model

2005-05-14 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert J. Chassell wrote:

 Rather than do this, I think that a government of either the US,
 or Western Europe, or Japan, or China should spend 2% or more of
 its gross domestic product each year on researching and
 developing alternative sources of energy ...

And Alberto Monteiro said,

The USA _is_ doing that: currently the greatest world producers in
ethanol to replace gasoline are Brazil and the USA. We started the
program in 1974 (or so - but back in the 30s we already had
alcohol cars), but the USA started it quite recently.

No, the US government is not spending US$200 billion per year on
biomass work, such as genetic research and development.  At least not
to my knowledge.

In any event, with current plants, if people starve, the US can
provide 5 - 10 % of its energy from biomass.  That is all.  

(I hope some genetic engineers create a plant or bacterium whose
growth is properly controllable, that converts ten times as high a
percentage of the sun's energy as any now do.  But meanwhile ... )

According to

http://bioenergy.ornl.gov/papers/misc/energy_conv.html

a target bioenergy crop yield might be: 5.0 US tons/acre 
(10,000 lb/acre) = 11.2 tonnes/hectare (1120 g/m2)

Energy content of agricultural residues (range due to moisture
content) = 10-17 GJ/t (4,300-7,300 Btu/lb)

or 110 - 200 GJ/hectare   or 11 - 20 Megajoules/sq meter

According to

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/us.html

US land area is only about 2.3 billion acres of which 1/5 is
arable, or about 440 million acres (~178 million hectares)

(A hectare is ~2.47 acres; conversely, an acre is ~0.4 of a hectare.)

So, to repeat myself, if people starve, the US can provide 5 - 10 per
cent of its energy from biomass.

-- 
Robert J. Chassell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
http://www.rattlesnake.com  http://www.teak.cc
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RE: Fare thee well my beautiful Vulcan, was RE: Star Trek signs off tonight....

2005-05-14 Thread Nick Lidster


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Edmunds
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:01 AM
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Fare thee well my beautiful Vulcan,was RE: Star Trek signs off
tonight


From: Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Star Trek signs off tonight
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:35:03 -0400

As most of us know, Star Trek Enterprise signs off tonight with two back to
back episodes. ... I wonder what the next incarnation of Star Trek will be?

Hard to say. Personally though I'd like to see a jump to the not so distant 
future. Similar to the TOS - TNG transition in essence; i.e. far enough 
ahead to evoke the sense of progression for this universe, yet close enough 
to be easily connected with present day Trek a la the conclusion of 
Voyager.

-Travis

_


The Travis and I have discussed this on many occasions, and a future jump
some 50-100 years into the future would be great as Travis said a la
voyager. 

Personally I would not mind something out the back door of the federation...
a la mirror universe. You could do a 4-5 season run and start at first
Contact and complete somewhere near the end of DS9. Yes I know it is around
300-400 years to cover but a lot of that time is spread out under occupation
by the alliance so you can cover some human uprisings and such. Do the whole
rise and fall of the Terran Empire, its occupation, persucation and the
start of its new rise to strength and power with the starting of the New
Federation or it good mirror self.

Nick... good bye T'pol I shall miss you 

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Re: The American Political Landscape today

2005-05-14 Thread Dave Land
On May 14, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
It's not that you're not in the mainstream, Dave, it's
that you're so detached from it _you don't even know
where it is_.
I'm clearly out of *your* main stream... Main stream of what,
I'm not entirely sure, but I am happy to be out of it.
Dave
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Re: The American Political Landscape Today

2005-05-14 Thread Dave Land
Gautam, et al,
I'm writing to retract my previous message. I reject your 
categorization of me as being out of the mainstream. Moreover, I found 
your message a little short on what I'll call intellectual honesty.

First, you admittedly pulled your numbers out of your ... um ... head, 
whereas this thread was discussing *actual* numbers from a poll that 
has been conducted for 15 years by the Pew Research Center. Guess which 
ones I consider to have more weight?

Second, your four groups of 20% are skewed to the right. Why didn't you 
have five groups:

Very Conservative 20%
 Conservative 20%
 Moderate 20%
  Liberal 20%
 Very Liberal 20%
   -- Source: My Ass
Using the above categories, which at least provide a centered spectrum, 
feel free to provide your own numbers.

Third, I don't understand why your four categories only added up to 
80%, leaving out 20% of the population. Do you think that the opinions 
of 20% of Americans don't count, or that 20% don't have any opinions? 
That is certainly heading in the direction of at least one finding in 
the Pew report: 63% of respondents feel that Most elected officials 
don't care what people like me think.

Perhaps your story would be better served with these groupings (with no 
bullshit numbers): Extremely Conservative, Very Conservative, 
Moderately Conservative, Mildly Conservative, Lunatic Fringe.

Returning to meaningful results of an actual poll, the categories and 
percentages under discussion are:

Right-leaning:
Enterprisers  9%
Social Conservatives 11%
Pro-Government Conservatives  9%
Centrist/Unaffiliated:
 Upbeats 11%
Disaffecteds  9%
  Bystanders 10%
Left-leaning:
  Conservative Democrats 14%
 Disadvantaged Democrats 10%
Liberals 17%
As you can see, the Liberals *as defined by the Pew report* are the 
largest bloc. The mainstream, one might say.

For the three general groupings that the Pewsters created, the 
percentages are:

   Right-leaning 29%
Centrist/Neither 30%
Left-leaning 41%
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: The American Political Landscape Today

2005-05-14 Thread JDG
At 07:15 PM 5/14/2005 -0700, you wrote:
 Liberals 17%

As you can see, the Liberals *as defined by the Pew report* are the 
largest bloc. The mainstream, one might say.

Shirley, you can't be serious?

JDG
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