Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
>> In 3056 people are their own computers after Thinc/Geneontek
>> developed the whole body logic protien matrix. That is why people 
>> in
>> the future are so fat. The more body mass, the more computing 
>> power.
>
> Actually you've got it a little backward. Miniaturization is really
> the mark of good computing power. Smaller is better.

Well.if your computer is your body and all your protiens and 
assorted whatnots are doing the computing, then more body mass is more 
computing power and memory.
I don't think that shrinking your body is going to result in an 
increase in computing elements.



>
> So of course when people in 3056 are filtering their email for spam,
> most of what they trash will be advertisements for penis reduction
> techniques.

Sorry, no spam. They don't have primitive business models in 3056.


Why is it that people always envision the future as being just like 
today only with flashier toys?


xponent
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Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 5, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Dan Minette wrote:

I'm surprised we haven't heard the Aaron Neville singing "Louisiana 
1927"

as background music on CNN during the coverage.


Oddly enough this only surfaced in my awareness today. (I've been 
rather busy the last couple of weeks.)


==

I would never normally go bowling
On a friday morning in New Orleans
But I like to come here to remember
The kind of places you took me
Like the time we stole a Datsun
And drove all night to the everglades
Until we crashed it in a big electric storm
And stood there listening to the bayou rain

The county sheriff had a hair - lip
Louisiana's pride and joy
He said politley as he cuffed me
"I never busted an English boy ...
But I will accept a contribution
To the Opelousas' Charity Ball
But you better drive this dirty Datsun
Into the Gulf of Mexico"

Under a Cajun moon I lay me open
There is a spirit here that won't be broken
Some words are sad to sing
Some leave me tongue-tied
But the hardest words I know
Are I love you goodbye
I love you goodbye

==

From "I Love You Goodbye" by Thomas Dolby.


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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Damon Agretto



Pftt
You actually think people use PCs in 3056?

In 3056 people are their own computers after Thinc/Geneontek developed
the whole body logic protien matrix. That is why people in the future
are so fat. The more body mass, the more computing power.


Huh. And here I thought everyone drove around in Battlemechs...

Damon.


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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:


In 3056 people are their own computers after Thinc/Geneontek developed
the whole body logic protien matrix. That is why people in the future
are so fat. The more body mass, the more computing power.


Actually you've got it a little backward. Miniaturization is really the 
mark of good computing power. Smaller is better.


So of course when people in 3056 are filtering their email for spam, 
most of what they trash will be advertisements for penis reduction 
techniques.



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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
Maru Dubshinki wrote:
> On 9/18/05, Ritu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ritu wrote:
>>>
 I can't reveal too many details [signed a non-disclosure 
 agreement]
 but it was pretty and nice and sensible
>>>
>>> The first half of that sentence suggests Microsoft owns the future
>>> world.
>>>
>>> The second half suggests the opposite.
>>
>> *g*
>>
>> I can safely reveal this: No Microsoft in that world.
>>
>> Ritu
>
>
> Hmm, so Apple triumphed and immediately set up an even more despotic
> rule than Microsoft.
> But their clients are so happy with the eye-candy and user interface
> that they couldn't care less
> about their enslavement?
>
Pftt
You actually think people use PCs in 3056?

In 3056 people are their own computers after Thinc/Geneontek developed 
the whole body logic protien matrix. That is why people in the future 
are so fat. The more body mass, the more computing power.


xponent
Caloric Calculonics Maru
rob 


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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 9/18/05, Ritu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> 
> > On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ritu wrote:
> >
> > > I can't reveal too many details [signed a non-disclosure agreement]
> > > but it was pretty and nice and sensible
> >
> > The first half of that sentence suggests Microsoft owns the future
> > world.
> >
> > The second half suggests the opposite.
> 
> *g*
> 
> I can safely reveal this: No Microsoft in that world.
> 
> Ritu


Hmm, so Apple triumphed and immediately set up an even more despotic rule 
than Microsoft.
But their clients are so happy with the eye-candy and user interface that 
they couldn't care less
about their enslavement?

~Maru
not really surprised
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RE: Katrina: Republican Political Tool(AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Ritu

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

> On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ritu wrote:
> 
> > I can't reveal too many details [signed a non-disclosure agreement]
> > but it was pretty and nice and sensible
> 
> The first half of that sentence suggests Microsoft owns the future 
> world.
> 
> The second half suggests the opposite.

*g*

I can safely reveal this: No Microsoft in that world.

Ritu

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ritu wrote:

I can't reveal too many details [signed a non-disclosure agreement] 
but it was pretty and nice and sensible


The first half of that sentence suggests Microsoft owns the future 
world.


The second half suggests the opposite.


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RE: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (AreYouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Ritu

Doug Pensinger asked:

> > Ritu, who just came back from 3056
> 
> And beyond the Bush flybys, how was it?

Pretty. :)
I can't reveal too many details [signed a non-disclosure agreement] but
it was pretty and nice and sensible...And there were a few developments
which Mr. Baker would definitely approve of.

> Doug
> Who's currenty considering a trip to 4034. 

Oh, do go. I haven't been that far yet.

Ritu

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are YouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Doug Pensinger

Ritu wrote:



Ritu, who just came back from 3056


And beyond the Bush flybys, how was it?

--
Doug
Who's currenty considering a trip to 4034.
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RE: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are YouLonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Ritu

Robert Seeberger wrote:

> I sat in on the Interdictor IRC chat recently (Brad DeLong was there) 
> and commented that Bush was going to keep flying over New Orleans 
> until he started to look good.
> 
> I have yet to be disproved.

Ah, that is why that ghost plane kept on flying over NO in 3056 AD. They
have forgotten his name though and think he is looking for his lost
love.

Ritu, who just came back from 3056

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You LonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You 
LonesomeTonightEdition)


> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:49:27 +, Alberto Monteiro 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>>>
>>> In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining 
>>> the
>>> swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
>>> valuable to waste.
>>> Irishmen were cheap and expendable.
>>>
>> Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?
>
> Worse!  Bush has been there four times since the hurricane!!
>

I sat in on the Interdictor IRC chat recently (Brad DeLong was there) 
and commented that Bush was going to keep flying over New Orleans 
until he started to look good.

I have yet to be disproved.


xponent
Repeat As Necessary Maru
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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You LonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You 
LonesomeTonightEdition)


> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You 
>> LonesomeTonightEdition)
>>
>>
>>
>>>Robert Seeberger wrote:
>>>
In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining 
the
swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
valuable to waste.
Irishmen were cheap and expendable.

>>>
>>>Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?
>>>
>>
>>
>> There are plenty of other diseases that might take its place if the 
>> mosquitoes are not effectively controlled. West Nile is all over 
>> this part of the world and we have been dealing with various 
>> mosquito borne encephalitis.
>>
>> I'm not aware of any danger from Yellow Fever currently, but I 
>> suppose it is possible.
>>
>>
>> xponent
>> Sickness In The Air Maru
>> rob
>
> Speaking of sickness in the air -- how are we doing for malaria?  :P
>
> Julia

I'm under the impression that Malaria has pretty much been wiped out 
in the US, but I could be completely wrong.
I *never* hear warnings here about malaria, but every summer we hear 
about West Nile and Encephalitis.

xponent
Horses Worry Too Maru
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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You LonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
>> Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?
>
> There are plenty of other diseases that might take its place if the
> mosquitoes are not effectively controlled. West Nile is all over this
> part of the world and we have been dealing with various mosquito borne
> encephalitis.
>
> I'm not aware of any danger from Yellow Fever currently, but I suppose
> it is possible.
>
We had some recent epidemies of "dengue" in Rio; the mosquito
[Anopheles aegypti or something like that] that vectors "dengue"
is the same that vectors Yellow Fever. But AFAIK we don't have
Yellow Fever in Rio for more than 50 years [my grandfather was
enlisted in one campaign to erradicate it, in the 1930s, but by
then it had already been reduced to minimum levels]

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You LonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You 
LonesomeTonightEdition)





Robert Seeberger wrote:

In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining 
the

swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
valuable to waste.
Irishmen were cheap and expendable.



Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?




There are plenty of other diseases that might take its place if the 
mosquitoes are not effectively controlled. West Nile is all over this 
part of the world and we have been dealing with various mosquito borne 
encephalitis.


I'm not aware of any danger from Yellow Fever currently, but I suppose 
it is possible.



xponent
Sickness In The Air Maru
rob 


Speaking of sickness in the air -- how are we doing for malaria?  :P

Julia

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You Lonesome TonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:49:27 +, Alberto Monteiro 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Robert Seeberger wrote:


In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining the
swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
valuable to waste.
Irishmen were cheap and expendable.


Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?


Worse!  Bush has been there four times since the hurricane!!

--
Doug
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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You LonesomeTonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You 
LonesomeTonightEdition)


> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>>
>> In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining 
>> the
>> swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
>> valuable to waste.
>> Irishmen were cheap and expendable.
>>
> Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?
>

There are plenty of other diseases that might take its place if the 
mosquitoes are not effectively controlled. West Nile is all over this 
part of the world and we have been dealing with various mosquito borne 
encephalitis.

I'm not aware of any danger from Yellow Fever currently, but I suppose 
it is possible.


xponent
Sickness In The Air Maru
rob 


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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You Lonesome TonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining the
> swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too
> valuable to waste.
> Irishmen were cheap and expendable.
>
Is there any real danger that Yellow Fever returns to New Orleans?

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You Lonesome TonightEdition)

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You Lonesome 
TonightEdition)


> On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Dave Land wrote:
>
>> That is to say, "Tonight, I will use the destruction of the Gulf 
>> Coast
>> to cut taxes."
>
> It gets more interesting. Bush wants to temporarily suspend the laws 
> requiring contractors to pay prevailing wages to workers, thus 
> allowing them to be hired at cutthroat prices -- presumably so New 
> Orleans can once again be built on slave labor.
>

Or worse!
In the 1840s, 40,000 Irish laborers died of yellow fever draining the 
swamps that are now a part of New Orleans because slaves were too 
valuable to waste.
Irishmen were cheap and expendable.

So working people could be worse than slaves.


xponent
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Threshold

2005-09-17 Thread Nick Lidster
So did anyone watch the 2h premier last night on CBS?

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Re: BraveNew genetic frontiers

2005-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 03:49 PM Saturday 9/17/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:

Dan makes a common spelling error below, and I can't help but be 
snarky this afternoon




And your reason the rest of the time is . . . ? :P


Oh, I can't help but be snarky at other times.  But I figured I'd throw 
that in *this* time.  :)


(if more people post more stuff with content on ANY of my mailing 
lists, I'll be more likely to STFU):


Dan Minette wrote:


I'm not quite sure where you break with established biochemestry, so
let me ask a few questions.  Do you question the roll of DNA in
genetic?



Yes, I do.  I think it's more of a croissant sort of thing.

Julia

leaving the obvious TP thread untouched as of yet




Did I hear myself being paged?


--Ronn!  :)

"Bathroom humor is an American-Standard."


That would be about right.

Julia
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Re: BraveNew genetic frontiers

2005-09-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 03:49 PM Saturday 9/17/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan makes a common spelling error below, and I can't help but be 
snarky this afternoon



And your reason the rest of the time is . . . ? :P


(if more people post more stuff with content on ANY of my mailing 
lists, I'll be more likely to STFU):


Dan Minette wrote:


I'm not quite sure where you break with established biochemestry, so
let me ask a few questions.  Do you question the roll of DNA in
genetic?


Yes, I do.  I think it's more of a croissant sort of thing.

Julia

leaving the obvious TP thread untouched as of yet



Did I hear myself being paged?


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Re: "Lost" DVD set question

2005-09-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 08:24 AM Saturday 9/17/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
A friend of mine bought the "Lost" DVD set.  It has a pocket for a 
booklet, but no booklet.  If anyone here has bought it and can state 
something about the existence or non-existence of a booklet therein, 
we'd be keenly interested in that information.



No information on it, but a speculation:  is it possible they used a 
"generic" container design which they have used/will use for other 
sets and therefore has such a pocket for use when they have something 
to use it for, or does it appear to be custom-built for the specific use only?



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and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?"

   -- Red Skelton



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Re: BraveNew genetic frontiers

2005-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan makes a common spelling error below, and I can't help but be snarky 
this afternoon (if more people post more stuff with content on ANY of my 
mailing lists, I'll be more likely to STFU):


Dan Minette wrote:


I'm not quite sure where you break with established biochemestry, so
let me ask a few questions.  Do you question the roll of DNA in
genetic?


Yes, I do.  I think it's more of a croissant sort of thing.

Julia

leaving the obvious TP thread untouched as of yet

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Re: BraveNew genetic frontiers

2005-09-17 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message - 
From: "Leonard Matusik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: BraveNew genetic frontiers



> For mechanisms, I favor some sort of Neo-Lamarckism. The notion more
adequately explains things like >BlindCaveFish than mythical "random
mutations"

I'm not quite sure where you break with established biochemestry, so let me
ask a few questions.  Do you question the roll of DNA in genetic?  If you
do, on what basis do you dismiss the work done on DNA over the last 50 or
so years?

If not, which I suspect, how do the actions of animals change the DNA that
they pass one? I know of no mechanism that has been found which
accomplishes that.  Random mutations, on the other hand, have been
observed. So, why would you call them mythical?

Dan M.


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Re: Katrina: The Gathering

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 17, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:


http://www.brokentoys.org/?p=6849

A couple of bloggers have fun spoofing Magic:  The Gathering with 
Katrina-related cards.


Very good stuff. VERY good.


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Re: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:24 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:


Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:13:35 -0700 Warren Ockrassa  wrote:



(I'm not being coy. We can't predict weather accurately past a few
days; what you're asking about is a lot more complex over many more
differences in timescales.)


A most excellent point, Warren!  (the whole heart of the matter to my 
mind) The phenomena of evolution is sufficiently complex and so 
insufficiently understood, that Darwinism had no business strutting 
around calling itself "science" for a hundred years. At best it was 
some sort of "natural philosophy" with some possible RealWorld 
applications.


This is on par with suggesting that, because no one can predict what 
the winning numbers will be in next week's lottery, obviously it's 
foolish to contend that aerodynamics has any factual merit to it, and 
therefore anyone who relies on aerodynamics for the purposes of flight 
is clearly building a science on a flimsy foundation.


You're not comparing apples to oranges here; you're comparing apples to 
office buildings. There is absolutely no relationship between 
complexity causing predictive failure … and complexity being analyzed 
*after the fact* for the purposes of understanding.


This is, of course, why hindsight is always 20/20.

Sorry if I seem so contentious on the point but I repeat, the vehement 
reliance of natural selection as a mechanism for macro-Evolution has 
stiffled the quest for truth in this arena for a century (and still 
does!)


I haven't seen you propose a sensible alternative yet.


(i'm rather fond of that FlyingSpaghettiMonster bit myself).


Of course you are. His Noodly Appendage toucheth all.


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Re: Bush on TV tonight

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:


A subsidy to entrepreneurship means the government
finances a business that can't turn a market rate of profit. It's
paying someone to lose money. Hey, I could do that. Mr. President,
over here!


Farmers have been doing that for decades.


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Re: Katrina: Republican Political Tool (Are You Lonesome Tonight Edition)

2005-09-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Dave Land wrote:


That is to say, "Tonight, I will use the destruction of the Gulf Coast
to cut taxes."


It gets more interesting. Bush wants to temporarily suspend the laws 
requiring contractors to pay prevailing wages to workers, thus allowing 
them to be hired at cutthroat prices -- presumably so New Orleans can 
once again be built on slave labor.



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Katrina: The Gathering

2005-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson

http://www.brokentoys.org/?p=6849

A couple of bloggers have fun spoofing Magic:  The Gathering with 
Katrina-related cards.


I thought the categorizing of Louis Farrakhan as "Creature - Insane 
Politician" was right on the money.


Interdictor has a card, as well.

And they put the infamous news crawl on a card, too.  "Do 3 damage to 
target creature."  (It's in the red section if you're trying to find it 
in a hurry.)


Julia
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"Lost" DVD set question

2005-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
A friend of mine bought the "Lost" DVD set.  It has a pocket for a 
booklet, but no booklet.  If anyone here has bought it and can state 
something about the existence or non-existence of a booklet therein, 
we'd be keenly interested in that information.


Julia
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