RE: A Family Tragedy

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Sharkey

My sincere condolences to you and your family, Rob.

Jim

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Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson
http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/index.cfm?page=673903

This is a list of words that get misused a lot.

Examples:

Appraise means set a price on. Apprise means inform.

Blooded means pedigreed or initiated. Bloodied means wounded.

Collapse is not transitive. You may collapse, but you may not collapse 
something.

Discreet means circumspect or prudent; discrete means separate or 
distinct. Remember that Questions are never indiscreet. Answers sometimes 
are. (Oscar Wilde)

Effectively means with effect; if you mean in effect, say it.The matter 
was effectively dealt with on Friday means it was done well on Friday. The 
matter was, in effect, dealt with on Friday means it was more or less 
attended to on Friday. Effectively leaderless would do as a description of 
the demonstrators in East Germany in 1989 but not those in Tiananmen 
Square. The devaluation of the Slovak currency in 1993, described by some 
as an effective 8%, turned out to be a rather ineffective 8%.

Flaunt means display; flout means disdain. If you flout this distinction, 
you will flaunt your ignorance.

(And that's as much as I'm going to copy  paste right now.)

Julia

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Re: Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 19, 2007 6:26 AM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/index.cfm?page=673903

 This is a list of words that get misused a lot.


The Economist is a British publication, so the usages (and spelling) are not
necessarily the same as we'd consider proper on this side of the pond.
Around here, I don't think it is particularly uncomplimentary to say that a
salesperson or company is aggressive.  And we spell etiology without that
silly extra 'a.'  And a brokerage is and does over here.  Etc.

As for among and between, that one annoys me when people misuse it...
and every time I have to use the BETWEEN operator in SQL, I'm slightly
annoyed.  In SQL, BETWEEN 1 AND 10 means 1 to 10 inclusive, even though the
actual integers between 1 and 10 actually are 2 through 9.  But I manage.

I hate centered around, no matter how you spell center/centre.

Back when integrated circuits were less common, I was frequently amused by
the notion of discreet electronics.  We could probably use more of them.

I see disinterested misused more and more.

Frankenstein was not a monster, but its creator.   I think this is just
pickiness about metaphor, which drives a lot of language.  The word has come
to mean the monster.  At least over here.

*Haver* means to *talk nonsense*, not *dither*,* swither *or *waver*.
  Haver?
Swither?  These are English words?

My mother the English teacher despises the word hopefully.  I'm not so
bothered.  Sometimes I use it just to see if she'll still correct me.
Hopefully, some day she won't.

A sad omission -- phase and faze.  Every time I read that someone was phased
(or unphased), I think Star Trek and its phasers.  At least I think those
were phasers, not fazers.

Nick


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Re: A Family Tragedy

2007-12-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 18, 2007 7:52 PM, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My family mourns today the death of Chase Taylor Williamson, my
 nephew, my sister Tracy's oldest child. Chase died hours after an
 automobile accident in the early hours of the morning.


I'm so sorry to hear this... After our niece's husband was killed just
before Thanksgiving, I decided to let it be a good thing that it happened
near a holiday because it means that when the anniversary comes around,
we'll be with family.

Let me offer a sentence that has helped many people get through the holidays
when in grief:  Not this year.  It means that it's okay to tell others --
and yourself -- that you're choosing not to skip something this year.  If it
will take more energy than it gives you, don't do it.

How old was Chase?

Nick

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Re: Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread William T Goodall

On 19 Dec 2007, at 15:46, Nick Arnett wrote:
 *Haver* means to *talk nonsense*, not *dither*,* swither *or *waver*.
   Haver?
 Swither?  These are English words?

They are in common use around here.


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Re: Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 19, 2007 8:48 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 19 Dec 2007, at 15:46, Nick Arnett wrote:
  *Haver* means to *talk nonsense*, not *dither*,* swither *or *waver*.
Haver?
  Swither?  These are English words?

 They are in common use around here.


Concerning religion, undoubtedly ;-)

Nick




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Re: Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread William T Goodall

On 19 Dec 2007, at 17:15, Nick Arnett wrote:

 On Dec 19, 2007 8:48 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:


 On 19 Dec 2007, at 15:46, Nick Arnett wrote:
 *Haver* means to *talk nonsense*, not *dither*,* swither *or  
 *waver*.
   Haver?
 Swither?  These are English words?

 They are in common use around here.


 Concerning religion, undoubtedly ;-)



I never swither about calling religious cant havering :)


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Re: A Family Tragedy

2007-12-19 Thread Robert Seeberger

On 12/19/2007 9:52:13 AM, Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Dec 18, 2007 7:52 PM, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  My family mourns today the death of Chase Taylor Williamson, my
  nephew, my sister
 Tracy's oldest child. Chase died hours after an
  automobile accident in the early hours of the morning.


 I'm
 so sorry to hear this... After our
 niece's husband was killed just
 before Thanksgiving, I decided to let it be a good thing that it 
 happened
 near a holiday because it means that when the anniversary comes 
 around,
 we'll
 be with family.

 Let me offer a sentence that has helped many people get through the
 holidays
 when in grief:  Not this year.  It means that
 it's okay to tell others --
 and yourself -- that you're choosing not to
 skip something this year.  If it
 will take more energy than it gives you, don't do it.

 How old was Chase?


He was 21.
In my immediate family we had a cluster of children all born in a 5 
year period, and they were all close and tight-knit having been 
practically raised together. Brittany was one of the older kids in 
this group and Chase was one of the younger ones. They are taking this 
very hard and watching their grief is excruciating. It's not fair! 
It's not fair! must have been repeated hundreds of times yesterday 
and there is so little one can say that does not sound empty during 
these initial stages of grieving. All I could do was hold them tight 
and cry with them, every single one.

I used to babysit all seven of the kids frequently. We would unfold 
the hide-a-bed couch and make popcorn or eat ice cream while watching 
monster movies. I'd get them to stay on the bed by telling them the 
toe-monsters would stick out their claws and snip their toes off if 
they got off and that was good for a great deal of giggly fun.
They would fall asleep with some crappy 80s horror movie on and I 
would sleep on a recliner next to the couch. I was their Uncle 
Robbiee and it felt like all the love in the world.
Sunday morning I stood in line in the wee hours of 34 degrees so that 
I could get my son a Wii for Christmas, and thought I was suffering in 
that cold. /irony

 I called the Ex-Wife to tell her about Chase last night and she tells 
me that she had been diagnosed with uterine cancer and had been 
hospitalized over the weekend for a procedure. So my son too has 
worries on his 12 year old mind. But we will spend this weekend and 
Christmas Day together and it is all the love in the world.

My wife's birth mother died last week. It is a complicated situation 
that precluded any chance of Susan going to the funeral. But her Dad 
and Step-Mom will coming in to town to be with us this weekend
It will still be Christmas this Christmas. And we will have all the 
love in the world as the little groups of us come together.
Tell people you love them, it matters.


xponent
Family And Extended Family Maru
rob


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Re: Interesting list

2007-12-19 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:29 AM, William T Goodall wrote:

 On 19 Dec 2007, at 17:15, Nick Arnett wrote:

 On Dec 19, 2007 8:48 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On 19 Dec 2007, at 15:46, Nick Arnett wrote:
 *Haver* means to *talk nonsense*, not *dither*,* swither *or
 *waver*.
   Haver?
 Swither?  These are English words?

 They are in common use around here.

 Concerning religion, undoubtedly ;-)

 I never swither about calling religious cant havering :)

Indeed, not: you chunter on about it.

Dave

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Re: A Family Tragedy

2007-12-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 19, 2007 7:52 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Let me offer a sentence that has helped many people get through the
 holidays when in grief:  Not this year.  It means that it's okay to tell
 others -- and yourself -- that you're choosing not to skip something this
 year.  If it will take more energy than it gives you, don't do it.


Choosing not to skip... sheesh.  I meant choosing to skip, which probably
was apparent.

Robert, thanks for telling us more.  Tears in my eyes.

Nothing makes these things better, we just learn to live with them.

I think it is good to choose to believe in things that seem impossible.

Nick



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A peek into 1994

2007-12-19 Thread Nick Arnett
At the risk of tooting my own horn, here's something I found fairly cool.
It is my announcement of one of the first, if not the first searchable
mailing list archives on the web (
http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-html.1994q3/0001.html).  It's hard
for me to really believe that it's been more than 13 years since I created
it.  It led fairly directly to many cool things.

I get this kind of alert now and then when archive pages are updated even
though they really haven't changed.  This particular one is from the
WWW-HTML list, where standards for HTML were discussed in the early days of
the web.  And mid-1994 really was the early days, when it was just starting
gain some momentum.

I just spent a little time reading what I was writing about in 1994.  A lot
of what I thought would happen did... and we still have some of the same
issues with the web.  And many the people who were involved back then went
on to do cool stuff.

I'm not sure I'd have guessed that it would be interesting to be able to
look back at what I was discussing.  None of us realized how big the web
would become.

Nick

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