Religion kills

2008-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7539509.stm

India temple stampede 'kills 140'
A stampede at a hilltop temple in northern India has killed at least  
140 people, police say.

The stampede happened at the Nainadevi temple in the Bilsapur district  
of Himachal Pradesh state, during a nine-day Hindu religious festival.

Police said the victims included 40 children. Fifty more people were  
hurt and have been taken to hospital.

The Nainadevi temple is about 160km (100 miles) from the Himalayan  
hill town of Shimla.

Most of the worshippers are believed to be from the neighbouring state  
of Punjab.

Crowds had gathered at the temple to celebrate the festival of Shravan  
Navratras, which began on Saturday and runs until 11 August.

At least 50,000 people were expected to attend the festivities, says  
the BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Delhi.


Hindu worshippers were climbing up a 4-km (2.5-mile) trail leading to  
a hill-top temple, chanting and singing hymns, when the stampede  
happened.

Our correspondent says a rain shelter beside the narrow mountain  
collapsed during poor weather conditions, causing widespread panic  
amid fears of a landslide.

Hundreds were then crushed together in a tiny space where they were  
unable to breathe.

Children lost their grip on their mothers' hands and were crushed  
under the feet of scared pilgrims attempting to leap over broken  
railings to save themselves, witnesses said.

Television footage showed the narrow path strewn with torn clothes and  
bags with flowers and offerings.

Survivors gathered at nearby hospitals looking for injured relatives.
The chief minister of Himachal Pradesh is said to have offered  
compensation to those injured in the stampede, and to the families of  
those killed.

Indian temples are regularly hit by stampedes, as huge crowds of Hindu  
devotees flock to make offerings at festival times.

There have been at least three fatal stampedes in the country so far  
during 2008, although the numbers killed were far smaller than in the  
latest incident.

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Re: Religion kills

2008-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
Children dead, not even cremated yet... And you're already blaming
religion for something caused by fear of an avalanche! Indecent of
you, really. Would it be okay if it had been a food line? At least you
could give people a chance to grieve a little before blaming. That
would be slightly humane.

On 8/3/08, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7539509.stm

 India temple stampede 'kills 140'
 A stampede at a hilltop temple in northern India has killed at least
 140 people, police say.

 The stampede happened at the Nainadevi temple in the Bilsapur district
 of Himachal Pradesh state, during a nine-day Hindu religious festival.

 Police said the victims included 40 children. Fifty more people were
 hurt and have been taken to hospital.

 The Nainadevi temple is about 160km (100 miles) from the Himalayan
 hill town of Shimla.

 Most of the worshippers are believed to be from the neighbouring state
 of Punjab.

 Crowds had gathered at the temple to celebrate the festival of Shravan
 Navratras, which began on Saturday and runs until 11 August.

 At least 50,000 people were expected to attend the festivities, says
 the BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Delhi.


 Hindu worshippers were climbing up a 4-km (2.5-mile) trail leading to
 a hill-top temple, chanting and singing hymns, when the stampede
 happened.

 Our correspondent says a rain shelter beside the narrow mountain
 collapsed during poor weather conditions, causing widespread panic
 amid fears of a landslide.

 Hundreds were then crushed together in a tiny space where they were
 unable to breathe.

 Children lost their grip on their mothers' hands and were crushed
 under the feet of scared pilgrims attempting to leap over broken
 railings to save themselves, witnesses said.

 Television footage showed the narrow path strewn with torn clothes and
 bags with flowers and offerings.

 Survivors gathered at nearby hospitals looking for injured relatives.
 The chief minister of Himachal Pradesh is said to have offered
 compensation to those injured in the stampede, and to the families of
 those killed.

 Indian temples are regularly hit by stampedes, as huge crowds of Hindu
 devotees flock to make offerings at festival times.

 There have been at least three fatal stampedes in the country so far
 during 2008, although the numbers killed were far smaller than in the
 latest incident.

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Re: Religion kills

2008-08-03 Thread William T Goodall

On 3 Aug 2008, at 18:55, Nick Arnett wrote:

 Children dead, not even cremated yet... And you're already blaming
 religion for something caused by fear of an avalanche! Indecent of
 you, really. Would it be okay if it had been a food line? At least you
 could give people a chance to grieve a little before blaming. That
 would be slightly humane.


I'm not the one who supports child-killing religion you inhumane  
hypocrite.

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Religion kills

2008-08-03 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Nick Arnett wrote:

  Children dead, not even cremated yet... And you're
 already blaming
  religion for something caused by fear of an avalanche!
 Indecent of
  you, really. Would it be okay if it had been a food
 line? At least you
  could give people a chance to grieve a little before
 blaming. That
  would be slightly humane.

 I'm not the one who supports child-killing religion you
 inhumane  
 hypocrite.
 Monstrous Evil Maru

hold on, i hate religion as much as anyone, but this was panic.  it happens on 
the hadj, plane crashes, ships at sea, and rock concerts.  as religions go, 
hinduism is not as evil as some others.
jon


  
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Re: Religion kills

2008-08-03 Thread William T Goodall

On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:21, Jon Louis Mann wrote:

 Nick Arnett wrote:

 Children dead, not even cremated yet... And you're
 already blaming
 religion for something caused by fear of an avalanche!
 Indecent of
 you, really. Would it be okay if it had been a food
 line? At least you
 could give people a chance to grieve a little before
 blaming. That
 would be slightly humane.

 I'm not the one who supports child-killing religion you
 inhumane
 hypocrite.
 Monstrous Evil Maru

 hold on, i hate religion as much as anyone, but this was panic.  it  
 happens on the hadj,

The hajj is another abominable superstition that kills people. During  
the 2006 Hajj  362 pilgrims died.


 plane crashes, ships at sea, and rock concerts.  as religions go,  
 hinduism is not as evil as some others.
 jon


 There have been at least three fatal stampedes in the country so far
 during 2008, although the numbers killed were far smaller than in the
 latest incident.

If it weren't for superstitious religious nonsense they wouldn't have  
been there in the first place. And  fatal stampedes  happen several  
times every year at religious events so ignorance isn't an excuse.


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