Re: Two interesting Articles for Dr. Brin:

2010-03-20 Thread KZK

http://www.asymptosis.com/libertarians-republicans-and-democrats-new-findings-on-morality-empathy-and-sympathy.html


Another point.  Since conservatives seem to care a great deal for 
purity, this post makes a whole lot more sense:


http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/how_worried_should_we_be/

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Re: Two interesting Articles for Dr. Brin:

2010-03-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship

At 05:02 PM Saturday 3/20/2010, David Brin wrote:

I challenge libertarians to imagine it is 1861.  In which army do they fight?



Subquestion #1:  Where do they live?

Subquestion #2:  What is the color of their skin?

(Point being that although some people had a 
choice in that matter — and some made one — many 
did not.  Although another point is that some who 
did did not necessarily make the "obvious" choice 
based on the subquestions . . . )



. . . ronn!  :)



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Re: Two interesting Articles for Dr. Brin:

2010-03-20 Thread David Brin
I challenge libertarians to imagine it is 1861.  In which army do they fight?

They are romantics and hence illogical.  In fact, they think they are for the 
Horatio Alger rags to riches innovators.  They hate it when you ask them how 
well that works when the rich become feudal lords.

Patron Saint Adam Smith actually would have been a democrat




From: KZK 
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 2:49:02 PM
Subject: Re: Two interesting Articles for Dr. Brin:

On 3/20/2010 12:00 AM, David Brin wrote:

> Wow, this guy is really something.
> 
> I'll tout him on my blog.
> 
> Who is he?

I don't know, I just found his site a few days ago.  Your best bet would be to 
try and email him and ask.  (Their are unscrupulous ways like looking up who 
the website was registered to by using whois).  Then again, I'm partial to 
pseudonyms.

> Thanks for sharing it.

I think their have also been other things going on for a number of years.  
Namely, most employers (90+%) now won't hire people who are not currently 
employed (they brag about this).  So people who lose thier job are finding it 
very difficult to reenter the workforce.  And people who've never been employed 
have extreme trouble just getting that first job (look at the unemployment 
"underemployed %").

Libertarians can be summed up in one statement:  Libertarians are for anything 
that increases the: Wealth, Power, Rights, and Privileges, of the already 
Wealthy and Powerful Elites;  Libertarians are also for anything that decreases 
the: Wealth, Power, Rights, and Privileges, of everyone else, especially the 
poorest or minorities.

After all, the Libertarian party has in the past had a Pro-Apartheid plank in 
it's platform.  You can usually get a Libertarian to argue that Slavery is OK, 
because people have a right to sell themselves.

> From: KZK
> 
> http://www.asymptosis.com/libertarians-republicans-and-democrats-new-findings-on-morality-empathy-and-sympathy.html
> 
> http://www.asymptosis.com/are-machines-replacing-humans-or-am-i-a-luddite.html

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Re: Two interesting Articles for Dr. Brin:

2010-03-20 Thread KZK

On 3/20/2010 12:00 AM, David Brin wrote:


Wow, this guy is really something.

I'll tout him on my blog.

Who is he?


I don't know, I just found his site a few days ago.  Your best bet would 
be to try and email him and ask.  (Their are unscrupulous ways like 
looking up who the website was registered to by using whois).  Then 
again, I'm partial to pseudonyms.



Thanks for sharing it.


I think their have also been other things going on for a number of 
years.  Namely, most employers (90+%) now won't hire people who are not 
currently employed (they brag about this).  So people who lose thier job 
are finding it very difficult to reenter the workforce.  And people 
who've never been employed have extreme trouble just getting that first 
job (look at the unemployment "underemployed %").


Libertarians can be summed up in one statement:  Libertarians are for 
anything that increases the: Wealth, Power, Rights, and Privileges, of 
the already Wealthy and Powerful Elites;  Libertarians are also for 
anything that decreases the: Wealth, Power, Rights, and Privileges, of 
everyone else, especially the poorest or minorities.


After all, the Libertarian party has in the past had a Pro-Apartheid 
plank in it's platform.  You can usually get a Libertarian to argue that 
Slavery is OK, because people have a right to sell themselves.



From: KZK

http://www.asymptosis.com/libertarians-republicans-and-democrats-new-findings-on-morality-empathy-and-sympathy.html

http://www.asymptosis.com/are-machines-replacing-humans-or-am-i-a-luddite.html


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