Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-23 Thread Damon Agretto
I played Evony for a while, until other powers decided to farm the crap out
of my cities, and my alliance disintegrated while I watched. That pretty
much killed any enjoyment I had from the game...

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Rceeberger rceeber...@comcast.net wrote:


 On 10/22/2010 8:13:45 AM, Charlie Bell (char...@culturelist.org) wrote:
  On 22/10/2010, at 1:41 PM, Rceeberger wrote:
  
   One at a time please.
  
  
  
   Xponent
   Insert GOATSE Here Maru
   Rob
 
  LOL!!! Rob, I've missed you.
 
 I've been here...I read the conversations and more or less keep up.
 I just havent had much worth adding recently.
 Mostly I spend my online time playing Evony, where I am the host of
 Bavaria, a top 10 alliance on SS51.
 We use Skype in Bavaria so I can be found there pretty much every night
 under Xponent.
 Drop by and chat sometime if any of you get a spare few.

 Xponent
 Addictive Gaming Maru
 rob

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Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-23 Thread Rceeberger

On 10/23/2010 9:41:08 AM, Damon Agretto (damon.agre...@gmail.com) wrote:
 I played Evony for a while, until other powers decided to farm the crap
 out of my cities, and my alliance disintegrated while I watched. That
 pretty much killed any enjoyment I had from the game...
 
The thing about Evony that is maddening, you have to play every day and playing 
as many hours as you can provides  many bonuses. As it stands...I'm about to 
break 5 mil prestige and am prepared to dump nearly 3 mil honor on an enemy who 
deserves it.

Evony has been merging servers together for the last year, and the maps are 
larger than they used to be.

Which server did you play on?
I was on S72 when an alliance named ELITE was doing pretty much what you 
describe to us and anyone who stood up to them. We managed to fight back with 
some success which was surprising since ELITE was rife with botters and we were 
more or less outclassed.

Since then, we have learned a few tricks of our own. How to feed troops for 
free. How to move any troop at scout speed. How players can trade heroes. 
Learning how to exploit some of Evony's many bugs has helped a lot. Flash is 
kinda crappy, but their implimentation is especially bad.

xponent
THE Host Maru
rob

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Look Who's Back / Mike's crazy list of physics hypotheses that he wishes he had time to look into but doesn't have the time.

2010-10-23 Thread Michael Harney
I'm back again.  I don't really know that I am doing any better than I 
was when I left, but I will see.  I wanted to discuss some concepts with 
intelligent people (some of whom may already know about some of this 
stuff).  I will preface these that my knowledge of Quantum theory is 
small, and if anyone can recommend a good (emphasis on good, not overly 
simplified or popularized like Hawking's Books which read more like 
quantum physics for dummies I want nitty-gritty details) book on 
quantum theory, I would appreciate it.


Mike's Crazy Hypothesis 1:
I have heard hypothesized that neutrons are simply protons upon-which an 
electron has collapsed.  First, does this make sense by our current 
understanding of quantum theory?  If the hypothesis does make sense, 
what if the hypothesis is backwards?  What if Neutrons are the natural 
state of matter and protons are neutrons that had part of them stripped 
away (likely during the big-bang)?  This could explain why electrons are 
near mass-less and the incredibly strong force of attraction between 
protons and electrons.


Mike's Crazy Hypothesis 2:
I am half-way through reading Richard Dawkin's book The God Delusion.  
In it he says that proponents of a creator argue that the fundamental 
force constants in the universe are so finely tuned so as to allow the 
conditions that make life (as we know it) possible.  and that if even 
one of these, like the strong force, was slightly different, that life 
would not be possible because if the strong force were higher, all 
hydrogen in the universe would have fused into heavier stuff, and if it 
were weaker, no heavier atoms essential to the formation of our planet 
and the life on it could be created in the cores of massive stars.  He 
explains Multi-dimensional theory and it as a possible explanation that 
would explain why a universe that has the right constants can exist 
without a creator.  Multi-dim theory aside, a thought occurred to me: If 
the constants of our universe need to be at a specific range for matter 
to exist in the forms that promote life, what if the constants like the 
strong force are not constants?  What if, over billions of years (or 
even longer), the strong force slowly got weaker.  Indeed, a higher 
strong force would go a long way to explain the singularity that 
resulted in the big bang, and the weakening of the strong force would go 
a long way to explaining why the big bang occurred in the first place.  
It might also go a long way to explain why Galaxies and solar-systems 
don't seem to follow the same model of gravity.  If the fundamental 
constants of the universe are changing ever-so-slowly, Objects at a 
great distance would appear to be affected differently than objects 
closer together simply because of the time it took for the bodies to 
form with relation to each other and the changing of the fundamental 
forces.  This may also explain the recent data suggesting that the 
universe appears to be expanding at an ever increasing rate rather than 
slowing down as one would expect.


I have more crazy hypotheses, but I am getting tired, so I think that I 
will stop there for now.


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Re: Look Who's Back / Mike's crazy list of physics hypotheses that he wishes he had time to look into but doesn't have the time.

2010-10-23 Thread Max Battcher

On 10/22/2010 10:35 PM, Michael Harney wrote:

I'm back again. I don't really know that I am doing any better than I
was when I left, but I will see. I wanted to discuss some concepts with
intelligent people (some of whom may already know about some of this
stuff). I will preface these that my knowledge of Quantum theory is
small, and if anyone can recommend a good (emphasis on good, not overly
simplified or popularized like Hawking's Books which read more like
quantum physics for dummies I want nitty-gritty details) book on
quantum theory, I would appreciate it.


Have you tried Michio Kaku's or Brian Greene's books? In my experience 
they are both wonderfully accessible writers with very firm grasps in 
the details of quantum and string/M theories. I've certainly enjoyed 
what I've read from both writers. (They are also both humble, working 
theoreticians.)


--
--Max Battcher--
http://worldmaker.net

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Re: Can Honerable People Have Mortgages?

2010-10-23 Thread Mitch
Just a second: huge numbers of replies to this message, and so far all I have 
seen missed your error.
'Responsible for repaying' does not mean 'there is no situation imaginable 
where you will not complete your obligation.'
Being responsible and honorable means only that you will do so until the debt 
is repaid. If you die or are otherwise unable to pay, that is a separate 
consequence, and is no part of your attitude toward paying.
Or, look at it this way: you are being honorable if you pay all the debt, as 
long as you can do so physically (not financially, which is all the law seems 
to require). That means you have not treated the debt as someone else's 
problem, or unrealistic, or some failure of the creditor's. If you cannot 
afford a house, but you agree to a mortgage for one that you know you cannot 
actually pay off, then you have been dishonorable. (Yes, that means a lot of 
buyers were dishonorable in the last couple decades. Is there any other way to 
see it? Owning your own house is neither necessary nor obligatory, but I have 
only heard people excuse the problem as though society and the banking industry 
all agreed everyone has to own their own home.)

Mitch

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On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:05 AM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:

 
 .  But, there was always a possibility that I'd be
 hit by a devastating illness after the mortgage went under water, so that it
 would be impossible to sell the house for enough to pay the mortgage and it
 would be impossible to keep up payments.
 
 .  I figured the interest rate I was charged was
 figured to include covering people in that situation.
 
 Given that, do you consider it dishonorable for me to have taken out a
 mortgage? If so, then what fraction of loans are ethical?  It seems to me
 that it is nearly impossible, even if you had the money in the bank to cover
 the loan if, to take out a loan where there wasn't an improbable set of
 circumstances that would cause you to default on the loan.
 
 Dan M.

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Re: Can Honerable People Have Mortgages?

2010-10-23 Thread Mitch
Wait just here: you have created a problem in perspective.
Yes, from the bank's point of view their rate includes a way to cover their 
losses in general for the number of loans that they cannot recover. But that is 
nothing like insurance: insurance assumes some outside agency will pay them off 
for each loan that is incomplete.
From the borrower's perpective, the difference is unimportant: it cannot 
matter to the borrower how the money is being used as it is paid back. It is 
none of his business what his specific dollars are paying for: he has no more 
say in that. His attitude begins and ends with the loan agreement.
You can't look at it from both perspectives and decide that the agreement is 
moot because a term used from one side creates less obligation when you look at 
it from the other end.

Here's what it seems you are writing:
Cars are made to withstand impacts. Car insurance covers the cost of repairing 
collisions. Not every driver will drive without a collision. 
Therefore, insured drivers individually do not have any obligation to avoid 
collisions.
Do you see that even though the insurance industry is there to pay for 
collisions, wanton abuse is not what it is calculating for?

That is why the mortgage industry could not cover the inflated pricing of the 
housing market; they weren't prepared for a change in attitude of the borrower 
or creditors, and they tried to hide their failure by being childishly clever 
in 'selling debt.'
I still wonder why anyone in the industry actually supported those awful, 
childish liars.

Mitch   

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On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:

 Given the fact that a portion of the interest I paid the bank was a premium
 to cover the banks loss in case of such a default; why is it dishonorable to
 consider that an insurance payment?  As Brad pointed out, mortgages interest
 rates are calculated to include the probability of default.  
 
 I see your idealism, but that's not how the market works.  Defaulting on a
 loan has a penalty associated with it; it will be hard to get another loan
 in the future, and if one does, it will be at a higher rate

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Re: Loan modifications (was Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries)

2010-10-23 Thread Mitch
Again, the problem of perspective:
That the bank factors in a rate that amounts to insurance (for the bank) is not 
the same thing as the borrower's loan being insured. It is calculated based on 
what might never be recovered from  loans.
The borrower can consider his payments insured if he, separately, buys 
insurance to make sure it is paid. Then he can take the attitude that his debt 
is covered.
Insurance is one-sided; it isn't about covering both sides of an agreement. The 
bank's insurance against default does not benefit the borrower.

Mitch
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On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:32 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I am paying for insurance for the lender in case I don't pay it back, why
 is it immoral to accept the penalty for not paying it back, knowing that I
 prepaid insurance for the lender.
 
 I answered this in another post, but I'll explain a little bit
 differently here. I see the mortgage insurance as insurance against
 the borrower being UNABLE to pay back the money, not just choosing to
 default. If your insurance agreement makes it clear that it is
 factoring in the chance that you choose to default

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