Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
William T Goodall wrote: I think it's clear than Nick's behaviour here is quite inappropriate and deserves censure in the strongest terms. What happened to IAAMOAC? It's clear Nick doesn't like my opinions. It's even clearer that he's abusing his position in the most egregious manner and should apologise to me and the list for his outburst. The problem, William, is that your complain is based on the (false) assumption that the list is a democratic place, with elected representatives, and peer judgement. It's not. Someone pays to mantain it, so it's a plutocracy. In a plutocracy, the shareholders have absolute power to ban whoever they want. Another example is the Wikipedia. There is an appearance of democracy there, with people happily engaging in discussions and elections, with the delusion that there's free speech and democracy. In fact, it has an owner, and whenever he (or she or them or Them(tm)) decide, they will close everything and turn it into a paysite. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
William T Goodall wrote: On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: William, This is not a discussion list about religion. I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate. Others,including me, are just plain bored with it, since you haven't written anything new on the topic for a long, long time. I think it's clear than Nick's behaviour here is quite inappropriate and deserves censure in the strongest terms. What happened to IAAMOAC? It's clear Nick doesn't like my opinions. It's even clearer that he's abusing his position in the most egregious manner and should apologise to me and the list for his outburst. William-- Hey, I know you've been posting stuff like that for ages. Maybe it just stands out more when there aren't many other posts. I think it's O.K. if you post the stuff, but it's really one notch up from trolling. To that extent, I'm on your side. On the other hand, I think Nick was voicing a valid concern. Asking him to apologize for that is pushing it. ---David Evil pernicious nonsense, Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
William, If you have something new to contribute to the discussion, I, for one, welcome it. If you have more of the same with which to spam the list, then I, for one, do not. I know that I can simply skip or delete your messages, but where is the spirit of IAAMOAC, forcing your fellow list-mates to delete all or most of your messages? Please, in the interests of community values, stop spamming the list with your hatred of religion, about which we are all completely, completely aware. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 20 Aug 2008, at 21:04, Dave Land wrote: William, If you have something new to contribute to the discussion, I, for one, welcome it. Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are quite old but still not settled. If you have more of the same with which to spam the list, then I, for one, do not. I know that I can simply skip or delete your messages, but where is the spirit of IAAMOAC, forcing your fellow list-mates to delete all or most of your messages? The silent majority on the list love reading my posts about the pernicious evil of religion. I don't think a couple of whiners should get to dictate to everybody else what gets posted here. Please, in the interests of community values, stop spamming the list with your hatred of religion, about which we are all completely, completely aware. One of the primary community values of this list is diversity of opinion. Expression Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are quite old but still not settled. But you're not arguing, you're just posting third party articles that reinforce your worldview. The silent majority on the list love reading my posts about the pernicious evil of religion. I don't think a couple of whiners should get to dictate to everybody else what gets posted here. I mostly agree with your worldview, but I'm still tired of seeing articles I've mostly read elsewhere reprinted in full here by you. One of the primary community values of this list is diversity of opinion. Yes, but we all know yours already. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 21 Aug 2008, at 11:04, Charlie Bell wrote: On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are quite old but still not settled. But you're not arguing, you're just posting third party articles that reinforce your worldview. What's wrong with that? The silent majority on the list love reading my posts about the pernicious evil of religion. I don't think a couple of whiners should get to dictate to everybody else what gets posted here. I mostly agree with your worldview, but I'm still tired of seeing articles I've mostly read elsewhere reprinted in full here by you. But people who don't agree may not have seen them. One of the primary community values of this list is diversity of opinion. Yes, but we all know yours already. Well maybe we can just all post our geek codes and then shut the list :-) Expression Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Just thought you'd want to know. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:55:55 +0100 On 21 Aug 2008, at 11:04, Charlie Bell wrote: On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are quite old but still not settled. But you're not arguing, you're just posting third party articles that reinforce your worldview. What's wrong with that? The silent majority on the list love reading my posts about the pernicious evil of religion. I don't think a couple of whiners should get to dictate to everybody else what gets posted here. I mostly agree with your worldview, but I'm still tired of seeing articles I've mostly read elsewhere reprinted in full here by you. But people who don't agree may not have seen them. One of the primary community values of this list is diversity of opinion. Yes, but we all know yours already. Well maybe we can just all post our geek codes and then shut the list :-) Expression Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 21 Aug 2008, at 14:07, Pat Mathews wrote: I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Just thought you'd want to know. What makes you think you're part of the list's silent majority? Contradiction Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Theists cannot be trusted as they believe that right and wrong are the arbitrary proclamations of invisible demons. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
At 08:38 AM Thursday 8/21/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 21 Aug 2008, at 14:07, Pat Mathews wrote: I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Just thought you'd want to know. What makes you think you're part of the list's silent majority? If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
Pat Mathews wrote: I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Ditto. --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in telepathy. :-) The Amazing William Maru --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in telepathy. :-) The Amazing William Maru LOL! Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
The list has now been dominated by this discusion for much longer than seems reasonable. It is much more distracting than William's posts. - Original Message - From: Nick Arnettmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussionmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic.,monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrotemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in telepathy. :-) The Amazing William Maru LOL! Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-lhttp://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 21 Aug 2008, at 18:53, Olin Elliott wrote: The list has now been dominated by this discusion for much longer than seems reasonable. It is much more distracting than William's posts. It does seem an enormous amount of fuss about one or two posts per week. That's why I don't believe the reasons given for it. Occam's Razor Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. - Richard Dawkins ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
At 09:33 AM Thursday 8/21/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in telepathy. :-) The Amazing William Maru --[Lance] I was being ***really*** nice and not saying exactly that. Telepathy Works Both Ways Maru . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))
On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: William, This is not a discussion list about religion. I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate. Others,including me, are just plain bored with it, since you haven't written anything new on the topic for a long, long time. I think it's clear than Nick's behaviour here is quite inappropriate and deserves censure in the strongest terms. What happened to IAAMOAC? It's clear Nick doesn't like my opinions. It's even clearer that he's abusing his position in the most egregious manner and should apologise to me and the list for his outburst. Civil Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
