Iraq Ghostpost
I read this disturbing report from the NYT today. It appears that Iraq is better poised for disintegration than elections in January, if this is true. If the factual statements listed in this article are true, then the provisional government/the US seems to be in the process of losing its grip on the country. A quote illustrates the problem: In the past three weeks, three former Hussein loyalists appointed to important posts in Falluja and Ramadi have been eliminated by the militants and their Baathist allies. The chief of a battalion of the American-trained Iraqi National Guard in Falluja was beheaded by the militants, prompting the disintegration of guard forces in the city. The Anbar governor was forced to resign after his three sons were kidnapped. The third official, the provincial police chief in Ramadi, was lured to his arrest by American marines after three assassination attempts led him to secretly defect to the rebel cause. The national guard commander and the governor were both forced into humiliating confessions, denouncing themselves as "traitors" on videotapes that sell in the Falluja marketplace for 50 cents. The tapes show masked men ending the guard commander's halting monologue, toppling him to the ground, and sawing off his head, to the accompaniment of recorded Koranic chants ordaining death for those who "make war upon Allah." The governor is shown with a photograph of himself with an American officer, sobbing as he repents working with the "infidel Americans," then being rewarded with a weeping reunion with his sons. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Iraq Ghostpost
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:56:29 -0500, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read this disturbing report from the NYT today. It appears that Iraq is > better poised for disintegration than elections in January, if this is > true. If the factual statements listed in this article are true, then the > provisional government/the US seems to be in the process of losing its grip > on the country. > > A quote illustrates the problem: > > > > In the past three weeks, three former Hussein loyalists appointed to > important posts in Falluja and Ramadi have been eliminated by the militants > and their Baathist allies. The chief of a battalion of the American-trained > Iraqi National Guard in Falluja was beheaded by the militants, prompting > the disintegration of guard forces in the city. The Anbar governor was > forced to resign after his three sons were kidnapped. The third official, > the provincial police chief in Ramadi, was lured to his arrest by American > marines after three assassination attempts led him to secretly defect to > the rebel cause. > > The national guard commander and the governor were both forced into > humiliating confessions, denouncing themselves as "traitors" on videotapes > that sell in the Falluja marketplace for 50 cents. The tapes show masked > men ending the guard commander's halting monologue, toppling him to the > ground, and sawing off his head, to the accompaniment of recorded Koranic > chants ordaining death for those who "make war upon Allah." The governor is > shown with a photograph of himself with an American officer, sobbing as he > repents working with the "infidel Americans," then being rewarded with a > weeping reunion with his sons. > > Very interesting. I might like to read the rest of the article. But I don't want that badly enough to go to the NYT website and hunt down the article; if you want discussion on these articles, it would greatly facilitate that if you would include links to the full article as well as the quotes. (This isn't the first time you've posted about an article that you included no link for, but at least this time I had an inkling as to which website to try to find the original article you refer to.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Iraq Ghostpost
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 07:35:56PM -0500, Julia Randolph wrote: > as well as the quotes. (This isn't the first time you've posted about > an article that you included no link for, but at least this time I had > an inkling as to which website to try to find the original article you > refer to.) I'm guessing he read it the "old-fashioned" way. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Iraq Ghostpost
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:38:53 -0400, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 07:35:56PM -0500, Julia Randolph wrote: > > > as well as the quotes. (This isn't the first time you've posted about > > an article that you included no link for, but at least this time I had > > an inkling as to which website to try to find the original article you > > refer to.) > > I'm guessing he read it the "old-fashioned" way. If so, he went through a lot of effort to type up the quote. :) Well, maybe not so much -- that was just a couple of paragraphs. I've done much longer, but it can be tedious, especially checking carefully for typos. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Iraq Ghostpost
- Original Message - From: "Julia Randolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Iraq Ghostpost > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:56:29 -0500, Dan Minette > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read this disturbing report from the NYT today. It appears that Iraq is > > better poised for disintegration than elections in January, if this is > > true. If the factual statements listed in this article are true, then the > > provisional government/the US seems to be in the process of losing its grip > > on the country. > > > > A quote illustrates the problem: > > > > > > > > In the past three weeks, three former Hussein loyalists appointed to > > important posts in Falluja and Ramadi have been eliminated by the militants > > and their Baathist allies. The chief of a battalion of the American-trained > > Iraqi National Guard in Falluja was beheaded by the militants, prompting > > the disintegration of guard forces in the city. The Anbar governor was > > forced to resign after his three sons were kidnapped. The third official, > > the provincial police chief in Ramadi, was lured to his arrest by American > > marines after three assassination attempts led him to secretly defect to > > the rebel cause. > > > > The national guard commander and the governor were both forced into > > humiliating confessions, denouncing themselves as "traitors" on videotapes > > that sell in the Falluja marketplace for 50 cents. The tapes show masked > > men ending the guard commander's halting monologue, toppling him to the > > ground, and sawing off his head, to the accompaniment of recorded Koranic > > chants ordaining death for those who "make war upon Allah." The governor is > > shown with a photograph of himself with an American officer, sobbing as he > > repents working with the "infidel Americans," then being rewarded with a > > weeping reunion with his sons. > > > > > > Very interesting. I might like to read the rest of the article. But > I don't want that badly enough to go to the NYT website and hunt down > the article; if you want discussion on these articles, it would > greatly facilitate that if you would include links to the full article > as well as the quotes. (This isn't the first time you've posted about > an article that you included no link for, but at least this time I had > an inkling as to which website to try to find the original article you > refer to.) > Sorry, I must have accidently erased it after copying it. Here it is. It is a NYT website, but there is a generl brin-l longin. (I think it is brin-l brin-l, but I'm not positive.) Dan M. http://tinyurl.com/69afs ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
