List On The Brink?

2002-12-05 Thread Kevin Street
Okay, what the hell is going on? For various reasons, I haven't been reading
Brin-L much lately, but today I came back and scanned through the messages,
only to find that Jeroen has become some kind of Typhoid Mary who has to be
censored from the list for its own protection, or something. It isn't very
clear.

What did he do to get himself totally banned? If you don't want to discuss
this matter on-list any further I understand, but if that's so could someone
please tell me what's going on in a private Email? Because frankly, I'm
confused, or to be more accurate, stunned, as to how this situation came
about. Jeroen is a long time list member. Yes, his continual campaign to
avenge any and all slights to his honour is annoying, but even at his
off-list, spamming worst I still find him *orders of magnitude* less
annoying than some trolls of the recent past. (Hiya, Wilbur07. Nice to see
you're still here.)

From the peanut gallery, it looks like Jeroen's recent activities (IE:
threatening lawsuits, forging return addresses, and what not) are
semi-hysterical responses to his posts being moderated in the first place,
and that's what I don't understand. Yes, his conduct has been pretty lousy
lately, but why did the list-owners, moderators, or whatever they're called,
drive him to do it in the first place? Why have you been pushing his
buttons?

What's happened to this place?

Kevin Street


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RE: List On The Brink?

2002-12-05 Thread Nick Arnett
This should explain:

http://www.mccmedia.com/pipermail/brin-l/Week-of-Mon-20021118/004507.html

But there are reasons to be hopeful that things will soon be back to
more-or-less normal.

Nick

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 Okay, what the hell is going on?

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Re: List On The Brink?

2002-12-05 Thread Steve Sloan II
Kevin Street wrote:

 Okay, what the hell is going on? For various reasons, I
 haven't been reading Brin-L much lately, but today I came
 back and scanned through the messages, only to find that
 Jeroen has become some kind of Typhoid Mary who has to be
 censored from the list for its own protection, or something.
 It isn't very clear.

I've been following it closely, and I'm not too clear on
it myself...
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RE: List On The Brink?

2002-12-05 Thread Kevin Street
Nick Arnett wrote:
 This should explain:

 http://www.mccmedia.com/pipermail/brin-l/Week-of-Mon-20021118/004507.html

It did, sadly enough. Thank you for the reply.

All those personal attacks had to stop. I see now why you started moderating
him.

Let's hope he sees it soon.


 But there are reasons to be hopeful that things will soon be back to
 more-or-less normal.

 Nick

That's good to hear.

Thanks again for the reply, and I apologize if it seemed a bit judgmental.
I'd just read through five of Jeroen's off-list harangues, and the
impression he gave was that he was the victim. As you (and others) have
shown me, that wasn't really true.

Kevin Street


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