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Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani scientist who sold nuclear technology
around the world, has told his interrogators that during a trip to
North Korea five years ago he was taken to a secret underground
nuclear plant and shown what he described as three nuclear devices,
according to Asian and American officials who have been briefed by the
Pakistanis.
If Dr. Khan's report is true, it would be the first time that any
foreigner has reported inspecting an actual North Korean nuclear
weapon. Past C.I.A. assessments of North Korea's nuclear capacity have
been based on estimates of how much plutonium it could produce and
assessments of its technical capability to turn that plutonium into
weapons.

Dr. Khan, known as the father of the Pakistani bomb, said he was
allowed to inspect the weapons briefly, according to the account that
Pakistan has begun to provide in classified briefings to nations
within reach of North Korea's missiles. American intelligence
officials caution that they cannot say whether Dr. Khan had the time,
expertise or equipment to verify the claims. But they note that the
number of plutonium weapons roughly accords with previous C.I.A.
estimates that North Korea had one or two weapons and the ability to
produce more.

White House officials declined to discuss the intelligence reports,
saying through a spokesman that the subject was "too sensitive." But
Vice President Dick Cheney was briefed on Dr. Khan's assertions before
he left for Asia over the weekend, and he is expected to cite the
intelligence to China's leaders on Tuesday to press the point that
talks over disarming North Korea are going too slowly, administration
officials said. They expect him to argue that the Bush administration
is losing patience and may seek stronger action, including sanctions.

Dr. Khan also told Pakistani officials that he began dealing with
North Korea on the sale of equipment for a second way of producing
nuclear weapons — through the enrichment of uranium, as opposed to
plutonium — as early as the late 1980's. But he said he did not begin
major shipments to North Korea until the late 1990's, after the
country's plutonium program was frozen under an agreement with the
United States. North Korea has since renounced that agreement.

According to officials who have reviewed the intelligence reports from
Pakistan, Dr. Khan admitted that he shipped to North Korea both the
designs for the centrifuges used to enrich uranium and a small number
of complete centrifuges. He also provided a "shopping list" of
equipment that North Korea needed to produce thousands of the
machines.

"We think they've pretty much bought everything on the list, with the
possible exception of a few components,"said one American official,
adding that the Bush administration is still uncertain exactly where
the uranium weapons program is, or whether it has begun production.

As the intelligence briefing by the Pakistani officials has flowed
through South Korea and Japan, it has set off alarms among senior
Asian officials. Until now, they have tried to finesse the subject of
whether North Korea is already a nuclear power, or was simply bluffing
as it works to develop weapons. China, in particular, has cast doubt
on the American and South Korean claims that North Korea is developing
a uranium weapon, perhaps hoping to take at least one problem off the
table after a year of so-far fruitless talks in Beijing.

"Asia can ignore a lot of things when it deems it convenient," said
Kurt Campbell, a senior defense official in the Clinton
administration. "But these reports make it very hard for the regional
powers — China, South Korea and Japan — to pretend publicly that North
Korea doesn't already have a significant nuclear capacity."

Many critical details are missing from the account that Pakistan has
given to the United States and its Asian allies. Because Pakistani
officials are not permitting American intelligence agencies to
interrogate Dr. Khan directly, American officials are getting their
information second-hand. Some officials suspect that Pakistan is
withholding crucial details, including any evidence about countries
that Dr. Khan dealt with beyond North Korea, Iran and Libya.

According to officials with access to the intelligence reports, Dr.
Khan described being taken to a secret plant that appears to have been
different from the main North Korean nuclear plant at Yongbyon. "It
was about an hour out of the capital, Khan says," according to one
senior Asian official. "But it's not clear in what direction."

It is unclear to American intelligence officials whether Dr. Khan was
taken to a site that Americans previously suspected was a nuclear
plant or to a site they were previously unaware of.

Dr. Khan was shown what was described to him as three plutonium
devices, he reported. He told his interrogators that these appeared to
be full weapons, not just a jar full of warm material that the North
Koreans handed to a visiting America weapons expert earlier this year,
telling him it proved their "nuclear deterrent force."

Because Dr. Khan is a metallurgist by training, not a nuclear
scientist, it is unclear whether he would have the expertise to know
the difference between an actual weapon or a mock-up. But he may have
been familiar with the basic design of such a weapon: he was present
at the test site in 1998 when Pakistan tested four weapons, including
one that American intelligence officials believe was a plutonium bomb.
There is an argument under way in the American intelligence community
over whether that explosion was conducted with North Korean
assistance.

A former American official noted that if North Korea produced three
actual weapons by 1999, it was either more skilled at using its then
relatively small supply of plutonium than experts thought, or it had
obtained an additional source of the bomb-making material.

But now it has plenty. North Korea says it has moved 8,000 nuclear
spent-fuel rods out of a storage pond in Yongbyon, and claims that it
has reprocessed all of them into bomb-grade plutonium. Many American,
Japanese and South Korean experts say they doubt that North Korea has
reproceessed all those rods into weapons. That many rods would produce
six or more weapons.

Moreover, since it evicted international inspectors 16 months ago,
North Korea says it has restarted a reactor at Yongbyon, and American
officials confirm that claim. It is about due to have its fuel
reloaded, and the spent fuel rods from that reactor would provide
about another bomb's worth of material.

American officials have known about the Pakistani reports for at least
three or four weeks, Asian and American officials say. But they have
kept them quiet, and President Bush has not mentioned the country in
public for weeks. Many Democrats say they believe that Mr. Bush is
trying to play down the issue in an election year, especially because
North Korea may be making more bombs as talks drag on.

Mr. Bush's aides say that they are making progress, and that there is
no use publicly denouncing North Korea while diplomacy continues. If
the country already has a few nuclear weapons, they say, a few more
would not make a strategic difference.

"It's an untenable argument," said Samuel R. Berger, President Bill
Clinton's national security adviser. "There's a difference between two
or three and eight and it's called the market in weapons for global
terrorists."





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