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From: Euan Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:56:55 +1300
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Quantum physics
Recently some physicists announced the result of some serious number
crunching that is evidence that the majority of the universes mass is
the interaction between quarks that form protons and neutrons.
Well, that's not really news, right? We've known ever since the quark
theory was well established (with the November 1974 revolution in particle
physics), that the pion was a quark-antiquark pair (ups and downs) with a
mass of 140 Mev, while the proton and neutron had 3 quarks (ups and downs)
and a mass close to 940 Mev.
Made of gluons that transmit the strong nuclear force this interaction
is the 'quantum foam' of bubbling particles popping in and out of
existence - in theory.
I don't like that theory. Not that I'm even remotely qualified to have
much of an opinion. I find the concept of particles popping in and out
of existence unsatisfying and inelegant. I would only accept it
as true if it's merely a way of expressing something deeper (m-branes
bending in and out of our dimension for instance).
So, I take it you don't even like QED, which has been verified to a zillion
places, because the polarization of the vacume and renormalization? It's
been around for 50-60 years. Indeed, virtual particles are so inherent in
quantum theory, I can't think of how to explain the last 80 years of
physics without them. Maybe Rich knows of such a theory, but I know how
Weinberg talked about the fact that while one can come up with different
theories slighly different than special and general relativity that are
close to right, that one cannot do the same with QM.
You need to remember that the only purpose of physics is to model
observations. Discussion what is real and what isn't is metaphysics. Thus,
the arguements over the interpretation of QM are metaphysical arguements.
Dan M.
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