Re: 08:00 UTC
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: 08:00 UTC On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ I was hanging out with some folks this evening, one of whom had a laptop and Weather Underground up, and it was fascinating seeing all the predictive stuff on that site. (I usually use NOAA, but wunderground has an interactive feature that combines prediction with Google Maps, which is pretty cool.) Yes! I've been hanging out on Wunderground most of this hurricane season. Lots of weather-wise people there (plus some interesting trolls) and more information than can be digested in just a few sittings. Jeff Masters' blog there is a jewel of a resource. ATM, I'm debating whether I should evac or not. It really depends on the storm track and how bad Ike gets. If I stay, I might shove a webcam out the window and cast the storm somewhere. xponent No Evac Called For My Area As Of Yet Maru rob Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see something from Sodium or Captain Sodium, that's probably my buddy. An example of why I like Wunderground. From Jeff Masters' blog: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful than Category 5 Katrina or Category 5 Rita. The storm surge from Ike could rival Katrina's, inundating a 200-mile stretch of coast from Galveston to Cameron, Louisiana with waters over 15 feet high. This massive storm surge is due to the exceptional size of Ike. According to the latest wind field estimate (Figure 1), the diameter of Ike's tropical storm and hurricane force winds are 550 and 240 miles, respectively. For comparison, Katrina numbers at landfall were 440 and 210 miles, respectively. As I discussed in yesterday's blog entry, a good measure of the storm surge potential is Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE). Ike continues to grow larger and has intensified slightly since yesterday, and the hurricane's Integrated Kinetic Energy has increased from 134 to 149 Terajoules. This is 30% higher than Katrina's total energy at landfall. All this extra energy has gone into piling up a vast storm surge that will probably be higher than anything in recorded history along the Texas coast. Storm surge heights of 20-25 feet are possible from Galveston northwards to the Louisiana border. The Texas storm surge record is held by Hurricane Carla of 1961. Carla was a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds at landfall, and drove a 10 foot or higher storm surge to a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast. A maximum storm surge of 22 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas. I'm bunkered in with my cats and networking with the neighbors (Apt manager and hubby) in order to protect other neighbors and property. We are at 30' above sea level here and are sufficiently boarded up. Got a small generator to help make it through the first days of the aftermath. We expect less than 90 mph winds at this location http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html is a good place to watch our local coverage. Just turn down the sound on the windows you are not watching. Galveston is really getting hammered already in an event of Katrina-like proportions. The whole island is likely to go underwater during the storm. Fortunately, I am no longer at the location I was during Rita (as some may recall, I was across the road from NASA-JSC) and my former residence is very likely to be inundated in the storm surge. Catastrophists are predicting a storm much like the 1900 Galveston hurricane, at least with regard to its destructive potential. It is predicted that Ike will be the most destructive storm in history (dollar wise),and if one adds into the calculations the destruction wrought upon Haiti and Cuba and the other Caribbean islands, it already is. The Galveston 1900 storm killed 6000-8000 people and I don't expect such an outcome in human cost, but the massive storm surge is likely to destroy a good bit of coastal habitations and infrastructure. For those so inclined, please pray for the coastal people of Texas and Louisiana that their suffering is tolerable. Will check in occasionally as power allows. xponent High Ground Maru rob
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful than Category 5 Katrina or Category 5 Rita. The storm surge from Ike could rival Katrina's, inundating a 200-mile stretch of coast from Galveston to Cameron, Louisiana with waters over 15 feet high. This massive storm surge is due to the exceptional size of Ike. According to the latest wind field estimate (Figure 1), the diameter of Ike's tropical storm and hurricane force winds are 550 and 240 miles, respectively. For comparison, Katrina numbers at landfall were 440 and 210 miles, respectively. As I discussed in yesterday's blog entry, a good measure of the storm surge potential is Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE). Ike continues to grow larger and has intensified slightly since yesterday, and the hurricane's Integrated Kinetic Energy has increased from 134 to 149 Terajoules. This is 30% higher than Katrina's total energy at landfall. All this extra energy has gone into piling up a vast storm surge that will probably be higher than anything in recorded history along the Texas coast. Storm surge heights of 20-25 feet are possible from Galveston northwards to the Louisiana border. The Texas storm surge record is held by Hurricane Carla of 1961. Carla was a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds at landfall, and drove a 10 foot or higher storm surge to a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast. A maximum storm surge of 22 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas. OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be done before 5:30, and then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture into the garage. The last thing I need is something thrown through a window again. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful than Category 5 Katrina or Category 5 Rita. The storm surge from Ike could rival Katrina's, inundating a 200-mile stretch of coast from Galveston to Cameron, Louisiana with waters over 15 feet high. This massive storm surge is due to the exceptional size of Ike. According to the latest wind field estimate (Figure 1), the diameter of Ike's tropical storm and hurricane force winds are 550 and 240 miles, respectively. For comparison, Katrina numbers at landfall were 440 and 210 miles, respectively. As I discussed in yesterday's blog entry, a good measure of the storm surge potential is Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE). Ike continues to grow larger and has intensified slightly since yesterday, and the hurricane's Integrated Kinetic Energy has increased from 134 to 149 Terajoules. This is 30% higher than Katrina's total energy at landfall. All this extra energy has gone into piling up a vast storm surge that will probably be higher than anything in recorded history along the Texas coast. Storm surge heights of 20-25 feet are possible from Galveston northwards to the Louisiana border. The Texas storm surge record is held by Hurricane Carla of 1961. Carla was a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds at landfall, and drove a 10 foot or higher storm surge to a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast. A maximum storm surge of 22 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas. OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be done before 5:30, and then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture into the garage. The last thing I need is something thrown through a window again. OK, besides having things thrown through the window, I really didn't need to re-injure myself. (I strained a muscle in my side on Saturday, it seemed to be better, I helped move a couch this afternoon and then started really feeling it long about the second trip to the garage. I still brought in more than half of everything that might get thrown through a window, but my wonderful husband is going to take care of the rest. I'll help if he asks for assistance with the biggest item, though.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:29 PM Subject: Re: 08:00 UTC On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful than Category 5 Katrina or Category 5 Rita. The storm surge from Ike could rival Katrina's, inundating a 200-mile stretch of coast from Galveston to Cameron, Louisiana with waters over 15 feet high. This massive storm surge is due to the exceptional size of Ike. According to the latest wind field estimate (Figure 1), the diameter of Ike's tropical storm and hurricane force winds are 550 and 240 miles, respectively. For comparison, Katrina numbers at landfall were 440 and 210 miles, respectively. As I discussed in yesterday's blog entry, a good measure of the storm surge potential is Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE). Ike continues to grow larger and has intensified slightly since yesterday, and the hurricane's Integrated Kinetic Energy has increased from 134 to 149 Terajoules. This is 30% higher than Katrina's total energy at landfall. All this extra energy has gone into piling up a vast storm surge that will probably be higher than anything in recorded history along the Texas coast. Storm surge heights of 20-25 feet are possible from Galveston northwards to the Louisiana border. The Texas storm surge record is held by Hurricane Carla of 1961. Carla was a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds at landfall, and drove a 10 foot or higher storm surge to a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast. A maximum storm surge of 22 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas. OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be done before 5:30, and then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture into the garage. The last thing I need is something thrown through a window again. OK, besides having things thrown through the window, I really didn't need to re-injure myself. (I strained a muscle in my side on Saturday, it seemed to be better, I helped move a couch this afternoon and then started really feeling it long about the second trip to the garage. I still brought in more than half of everything that might get thrown through a window, but my wonderful husband is going to take care of the rest. I'll help if he asks for assistance with the biggest item, though.) Be careful and good luck Julia! You might get some strong winds Saturday or Sunday, so it is a good thing you are removing potential projectiles. xponent Anti-Ballistics Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see something from Sodium or Captain Sodium, that's probably my buddy. (And despite the name, he's quite OK if he gets rained on. Heck, I've hung out in a pool with him and have it be fine.) Julia I'm guessing dropping him off the Charles River bridge would be problematic, but not for the traditional reasons .. :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see something from Sodium or Captain Sodium, that's probably my buddy. (And despite the name, he's quite OK if he gets rained on. Heck, I've hung out in a pool with him and have it be fine.) Julia I'm guessing dropping him off the Charles River bridge would be problematic, but not for the traditional reasons .. :) I wouldn't try. He'd be good at fighting back Of course, he might think it great fun, at least in the summer. (And at which Smoot would you try dumping him, anyway?) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Damn! If I had known the world would finish today, I wouldn't have woken up so early! BTW, wasn't this monster supposed to be started on 2000-01-01? And they avoided that mystical date due to fear of the End of the World? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru Meter to let you know what the status of Earth is: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru As long as it is the same illusion, I'm satisfied. I'm not ready for a new one. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru As long as it is the same illusion, I'm satisfied. I'm not ready for a new one. I've often puzzled that the word disillusioned means a bad thing: would you rather remain illusioned? I think some people would, but not me (my adherence to things that Science cannot prove notwithstanding). Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've often puzzled that the word disillusioned means a bad thing: would you rather remain illusioned? Dis illusion, dat illusion... perhaps one is as good as the next. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
- Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ xponent In For A Blow Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
At 07:13 AM Wednesday 9/10/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru Meter to let you know what the status of Earth is: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ Julia If you haven't already, click on view source in your browser while you're viewing that page. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
At 07:01 PM Wednesday 9/10/2008, xponentrob wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ xponent In For A Blow Maru rob Yeah, good luck with that to all of you who are in that area . . . We Got About 10 Of Rain From Fay Maru . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ I was hanging out with some folks this evening, one of whom had a laptop and Weather Underground up, and it was fascinating seeing all the predictive stuff on that site. (I usually use NOAA, but wunderground has an interactive feature that combines prediction with Google Maps, which is pretty cool.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:13 AM Wednesday 9/10/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru Meter to let you know what the status of Earth is: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ Julia If you haven't already, click on view source in your browser while you're viewing that page. I have. The LJ syndication of the rss feed is http://syndicated.livejournal.com/lhc_kills_earth/ in case anyone wanted that. :) (!Bob told me to check out the source code sometime before I posted the link here. I don't think anyone here besides Bruce knows !Bob.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ I was hanging out with some folks this evening, one of whom had a laptop and Weather Underground up, and it was fascinating seeing all the predictive stuff on that site. (I usually use NOAA, but wunderground has an interactive feature that combines prediction with Google Maps, which is pretty cool.) Yes! I've been hanging out on Wunderground most of this hurricane season. Lots of weather-wise people there (plus some interesting trolls) and more information than can be digested in just a few sittings. Jeff Masters' blog there is a jewel of a resource. ATM, I'm debating whether I should evac or not. It really depends on the storm track and how bad Ike gets. If I stay, I might shove a webcam out the window and cast the storm somewhere. xponent No Evac Called For My Area As Of Yet Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 08:00 UTC
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: 08:00 UTC 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . I'll get back to you after Saturday... http://www.stormpulse.com/ I was hanging out with some folks this evening, one of whom had a laptop and Weather Underground up, and it was fascinating seeing all the predictive stuff on that site. (I usually use NOAA, but wunderground has an interactive feature that combines prediction with Google Maps, which is pretty cool.) Yes! I've been hanging out on Wunderground most of this hurricane season. Lots of weather-wise people there (plus some interesting trolls) and more information than can be digested in just a few sittings. Jeff Masters' blog there is a jewel of a resource. ATM, I'm debating whether I should evac or not. It really depends on the storm track and how bad Ike gets. If I stay, I might shove a webcam out the window and cast the storm somewhere. xponent No Evac Called For My Area As Of Yet Maru rob Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see something from Sodium or Captain Sodium, that's probably my buddy. (And despite the name, he's quite OK if he gets rained on. Heck, I've hung out in a pool with him and have it be fine.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
