Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:

>   Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> 
> 
> > FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back 
> > quite as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve.  They are 
> > free of posts from other lists, though.  Lemme know if anyone cares.
> >
> >
> I am.  And btw, thanks, Steve...
> 
> Anyone else?  Julia?

I got everything I had to Nick at some point, actually.

Everything is on the hard drive in the computer that I *still* don't have 
a CPU fan for.  I'll put your request on the list of Things To Do Once I 
Can Run That Computer 24/7 Again.  :)

Julia

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Nov 2003, at 11:49 am, Ray Ludenia wrote:

Julia Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the 
(woefully
inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but 
I'll
guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
April 1996.  I joined in the first or second week.
Time sure does fly! I still considered myself a relative late-comer 
till I
found my original subscription info dated beginning October 1996.

I'm just a newbie! I joined on 10 May 1998.

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Doug Pensinger wrote:

> Jon Gabriel wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience --
>> to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?
>> 
> 
> I would like a copy as well, if it isn't too much trouble...
 
Me too.



Regards, Ray.

I think this is my first "me too" post ever :-)

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
>> I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the (woefully
>> inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but I'll
>> guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
> 
> April 1996.  I joined in the first or second week.

Time sure does fly! I still considered myself a relative late-comer till I
found my original subscription info dated beginning October 1996.

Makes me wonder just how many electrons have been used in this time for my
enjoyment.

Regards, Ray.

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
 Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back 
quite as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve.  They are 
free of posts from other lists, though.  Lemme know if anyone cares.


I am.  And btw, thanks, Steve...

Anyone else?  Julia?

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:23 PM 11/18/03 -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote:
Jon Gabriel wrote:

> Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your
> convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?
I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files
total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized,
with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with
the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them?


FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back quite 
as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve.  They are free of 
posts from other lists, though.  Lemme know if anyone cares.


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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Julia Thompson


On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I
> > *could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my
> > willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} )
> 
> I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the (woefully 
> inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but I'll 
> guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.

April 1996.  I joined in the first or second week.

The July date for a get-together was based on more people being able to 
travel in July than in April.

Julia

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon Gabriel wrote:

Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- 
to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?

I would like a copy as well, if it isn't too much trouble...

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Russell Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doug Pensinger wrote:
> 
> >> Deborah Harrell 

> >> Question: When *is* the List anniversary? 

> > I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list
> pre-dates the 
> > (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. 
> Julia would know for 
> > sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around
> August, 1995.
> >
> I didn't join until early 1996, but I do remember
> that the party was 
> planned for July in whatever year it was planned, so
> that would tend to confirm Doug's estimate...

Let's see, so we could use the Fourth of July, or when
Cancer becomes Leo, but summer solstice would be too
early...  ;)

Always Looking For Good Excuses To Have A Party Maru 

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Jon Gabriel
Sure, but can you please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My Hotmail acct 
has a 10MB limit but aol is unlimited.
:-)

THANK YOU!

Jon


From: Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A year ago today...
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:23:04 -0600
Jon Gabriel wrote:

> Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your
> convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?
I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files
total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized,
with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with
the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them?
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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Sloan II
Jon Gabriel wrote:

> Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your
> convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?
I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files
total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized,
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the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them?
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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A year ago today...
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:02:11 -0600
Doug Pensinger wrote:

> I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the
> (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know
> for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
Some time after I joined the list, I sent in requests for the
list digests from before I joined to the listserv. I kept them,
as well as all email I received from the list after I joined.
I sent those files in to Jeroen a while back, in the hopes
that he would be able to throw together a complete web-based
digest of the early list -- a project that fell through, for
obvious reasons.
I still have zip files containing digests from the early
days, from April 15, 1996 to March 1998 -- which reminds
me that I need to get around to making them available on
a website one of these days.
Steve,

Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to 
some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?

Just wonderin'
TIA,
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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Sloan II
Doug Pensinger wrote:

> I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the
> (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know
> for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
Some time after I joined the list, I sent in requests for the
list digests from before I joined to the listserv. I kept them,
as well as all email I received from the list after I joined.
I sent those files in to Jeroen a while back, in the hopes
that he would be able to throw together a complete web-based
digest of the early list -- a project that fell through, for
obvious reasons.
I still have zip files containing digests from the early
days, from April 15, 1996 to March 1998 -- which reminds
me that I need to get around to making them available on
a website one of these days.
This is the first digest I got, which suggests the list got its
first post on April 15, 1996:
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BRIN-L Digest 1

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: your mail
by Stewart Blandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  2) Re: your mail
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stewart Blandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your mail
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello Stefan,

Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift.  I've never
heard about this. I assume it's a role playing game of some kind.
There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe.
Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by
other authors?
> There's some discrepancy here. Startide Rising seems to state
> that the Milky Way is Galaxy One.
I just recently reread Startide Rising and did not get the
impression the Brin was locating it anywhere yet.  It is in
Brightness that a definitive answer is give (if I can find the
page no. I forward it to you)
Stewart

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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:39:36 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your mail
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In a message dated 96-04-15 16:08:13 EDT, you write:

> Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift.  I've never
> heard about this.
GURPS is a role-playing system published by Steve Jackson Games
(http://www.io.com/sjgames).
GURPS Uplift was a "worldbook" that let you roleplay in the Uplift
universe. It's out of print, and probably will stay that way
unless I have time to update it.  And people ask for it . . .
> I assume it's a role playing game of some kind.  There seems
> to be a source of information on the Uplift universe.
Oooh yeah.  Jam-packed.  And some stuff got left out!

> Did David Brin write this
> information or is it speculations by other authors?
It's either derived from the books, supplied by Dave via notes, or
made up by me (and some friends) and given a stamp of approval.
(The Jophur/Treakie of Brightness Reef owe some to the "Jophur
construction kit" rules in the game book, which is fine by me!)
--Stefan

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RE: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 04:35 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: RE: A year ago today...
> 
> > Recently we got a crop of new baristas, and they're
> > driving me crazy.  I've got to break them in all
> > over again and train them how to make a latte.
> > (@_@)
> 
> Ah, my condolences - good help can be so hard to
> find...and isn't it amazing how so many can refuse to
> profit from reading an instruction manual, or to learn
> from those with more experience?   

*grumble*

Its more that I have an easy-going banter thing with the people who used to work 
there, but now with the new people they stare at me like I'm a dirty old man when I 
try to start a conversation with 'em.

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-18 Thread Russell Chapman
Doug Pensinger wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I
*could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my
willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} )
I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the 
(woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for 
sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.

I didn't join until early 1996, but I do remember that the party was 
planned for July in whatever year it was planned, so that would tend to 
confirm Doug's estimate...

Cheers
Russell C.
not a newbie anymore...
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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I
*could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my
willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} )
I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the (woefully 
inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but I'll 
guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.

--
Doug
Who first joined 6-8 months later.
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RE: A year ago today...

2003-11-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
> "Miller, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > from Bryon Daly


> > ...So for me to still be 
> > here says something positive about the people and
> >the general overall 
> > quality of discussion we have here (despite the
> >occasional wars over 
> > sensitive, inflammatory topics like hot cocoa).
> 
> Soy nog is the only way to go.

Blasphemer!  Ferengi-user!  Additional ridiculous
imprecations!  ;)

> Recently we got a crop of new baristas, and they're
> driving me crazy.  I've got to break them in all
> over again and train them how to make a latte. 
> (@_@)

Ah, my condolences - good help can be so hard to
find...and isn't it amazing how so many can refuse to
profit from reading an instruction manual, or to learn
from those with more experience?   

Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I
*could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my
willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} )

Debbi
Had My Mocha This Morning Maru  :)

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 06:35 PM 11/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
... I made my first post to Brin-L.  (No, I hadn't marked it on my 
calendar; I just happened to come across my first post while I was digging 
in the mail archive last week for a different post of mine).

I had been lurking for some time before that post, but I was getting the 
list digest, which made it hard to reply to messages in a timely fashion.
Then Kevin Tarr posted a request for some information about cameras, which 
lured me out of lurk mode.  (Kevin: did you ever pick out a camera?  What 
did you get?)

The significance of this?  None, really.  It's just notable to me because 
I rarely tend to stick around most online communities I've joined over the 
years for more than a few months before moving on.  So for me to still be 
here says something positive about the people and the general overall 
quality of discussion we have here (despite the occasional wars over 
sensitive, inflammatory topics like hot cocoa).

So thanks, everyone, for a year (and more) of challenging, fun, 
intelligent, though-provoking, educational, and entertaining discussion!

Cheers,
-Bryon


By happenstance I got a cheap zoom camera. I have no idea how it is, I have 
not taken one picture yet it. Last weekend was the first time I took it out 
of the house, but nothing picture worth showed up. Well, I saw a large deer 
in northern PA, but the driver wouldn't turn around and go back to look at 
it, I was the only one who saw it.

So I have a camera, cheap. But thanks for the info. Glad you stayed.

Kevin Tarr
Reluctant shutterbug
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RE: A year ago today...

2003-11-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Daly
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 03:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: A year ago today...
>
> The significance of this?  None, really.  It's just notable 
> to me because I 
> rarely tend to stick around most online communities I've 
> joined over the 
> years for more than a few months before moving on.  So for me 
> to still be 
> here says something positive about the people and the general overall 
> quality of discussion we have here (despite the occasional wars over 
> sensitive, inflammatory topics like hot cocoa).

Soy nog is the only way to go.
 
Every morning I get a medium half-caff soy latte.  Every once in a while I change-up, 
just to keep the baristas on their toes;  I like being a regular, being the "Norm" of 
my local SBC, but when you come in and they say "Eogan!" and start making a drink for 
you without taking your order..  eek!  

Recently we got a crop of new baristas, and they're driving me crazy.  I've got to 
break them in all over again and train them how to make a latte.  (@_@)

No, no real point.

-j-
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