Re: CBS - NYT

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 10:09 PM 11/7/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:

Of particular concern to conservative critics was a scene in which Mr.
Reagan says of gays who have AIDS: "They that live in sin shall die in
sin."
Mr. Reagan made no such public remark,


I still haven't heard your explanation of why IYO it was wrong of said 
critics to object to the script putting those words in his mouth.



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: CBS - NYT

[The Fool]

> From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At 10:09 PM 11/7/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> 
> >Of particular concern to conservative critics was a scene in which Mr.
> >Reagan says of gays who have AIDS: "They that live in sin shall die in
> >sin."
> >
> >Mr. Reagan made no such public remark,
> 
> 
> 
> I still haven't heard your explanation of why IYO it was wrong of said 
> critics to object to the script putting those words in his mouth.

It was toned down from what he really said.  (The sentiment is the same
if worded slightly diferently).  It is a dramatazation not a documentary.
 

Even staunch conservatives admit that regan was 5 cans short of a six
pack:

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Re: CBS - NYT

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 09:57 AM 11/8/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At 10:09 PM 11/7/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
>
> >Of particular concern to conservative critics was a scene in which Mr.
> >Reagan says of gays who have AIDS: "They that live in sin shall die in
> >sin."
> >
> >Mr. Reagan made no such public remark,
>
>
>
> I still haven't heard your explanation of why IYO it was wrong of said
> critics to object to the script putting those words in his mouth.
It was toned down from what he really said.


Do you agree that what he is documented as actually saying was "Maybe the 
Lord brought down this plague," because "illicit sex is against the Ten 
Commandments"?



(The sentiment is the same if worded slightly diferently).


Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual behavior is 
a sin.  Some of them may indeed believe that AIDS is God's judgement on 
those who continue in their homosexual behavior despite being warned that 
it is a sin.  AFAIK, few of those (with the possible exception of a few 
like the "reverend" Fred Phelps) want homosexuals to get AIDS and 
die.  Most of them want them to repent and change their ways before it is 
too late.

What evidence do you have that President Reagan wanted homosexuals to get 
AIDS and die rather than for them to stop behaving in ways which are likely 
to lead to them contracting the disease before they contract it and it is 
too late?



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Re: CBS - NYT

[The Fool]

> From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At 09:57 AM 11/8/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> > > From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > At 10:09 PM 11/7/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> > >
> > > >Of particular concern to conservative critics was a scene in which
Mr.
> > > >Reagan says of gays who have AIDS: "They that live in sin shall
die in
> > > >sin."
> > > >
> > > >Mr. Reagan made no such public remark,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I still haven't heard your explanation of why IYO it was wrong of
said
> > > critics to object to the script putting those words in his mouth.
> >
> >It was toned down from what he really said.
> 
> 
> 
> Do you agree that what he is documented as actually saying was "Maybe
the 
> Lord brought down this plague," because "illicit sex is against the Ten

> Commandments"?

The script writers claim to have documentation for every single line,
this line fits in with their assertion.  It also fits in with fact that
the idiot that controlled the White house for 8 Years did nothing to stop
the spread of HIV/AIDS at all.



> 
> >(The sentiment is the same if worded slightly diferently).
> 
> 
> 
> Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual
behavior is 
> a sin.

Because reading the bible makes you stupid, elitist, and intolerant?

>  Some of them may indeed believe that AIDS is God's judgement on 
> those who continue in their homosexual behavior despite being warned
that 
> it is a sin. 

These people are the same as Osama and Hitler.

> AFAIK, few of those (with the possible exception of a few 
> like the "reverend" Fred Phelps) want homosexuals to get AIDS and 
> die.  Most of them want them to repent and change their ways before it
is 
> too late.
> 
> What evidence do you have that President Reagan wanted homosexuals to
get 
> AIDS and die rather than for them to stop behaving in ways which are
likely 
> to lead to them contracting the disease before they contract it and it
is 
> too late?

He did absolutely nothing in his entire presidency to halt in any way the
spread of the disease which is now killing tens of millions of people.

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Re: CBS - NYT

[Andrew Crystall]

On 11 Nov 2003 at 15:21, The Fool wrote:

> > Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual
> behavior is 
> > a sin.
> 
> Because reading the bible makes you stupid, elitist, and intolerant?

And reading Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi?

Ahh, the smell of small-minded biggots abounds. Not that I expect 
anything more from YOU. (What? I told you long ago I knew who you 
were)

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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Re: CBS - NYT

[The Fool]

> From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On 11 Nov 2003 at 15:21, The Fool wrote:
> 
> > > Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual
> > behavior is 
> > > a sin.
> > 
> > Because reading the bible makes you stupid, elitist, and intolerant?
> 
> And reading Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi?

Following it does.  Same for the Bible.

> 
> Ahh, the smell of small-minded biggots abounds. Not that I expect 
> anything more from YOU. (What? I told you long ago I knew who you 
> were)

Who am I?  THe anti-christ?  Evil incarnate?  Kesandranacles?  
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Re: CBS - NYT

[Dan Minette]

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From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: CBS - NYT


> > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > On 11 Nov 2003 at 15:21, The Fool wrote:
> > 
> > > > Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual
> > > behavior is 
> > > > a sin.
> > > 
> > > Because reading the bible makes you stupid, elitist, and intolerant?
> > 
> > And reading Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi?
> 
> Following it does.  Same for the Bible.
> 
> > 
> > Ahh, the smell of small-minded biggots abounds. Not that I expect 
> > anything more from YOU. (What? I told you long ago I knew who you 
> > were)
> 
> Who am I?  THe anti-christ?  Evil incarnate?  Kesandranacles?  

You are someone who reminds me of a saying of Sartre. :-)

Dan M. 

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Re: CBS - NYT

[Andrew Crystall]

On 11 Nov 2003 at 16:56, The Fool wrote:

> > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > On 11 Nov 2003 at 15:21, The Fool wrote:
> > 
> > > > Not necessarily.  Many religious people believe that homosexual
> > > behavior is 
> > > > a sin.
> > > 
> > > Because reading the bible makes you stupid, elitist, and
> > > intolerant?
> > 
> > And reading Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi?
> 
> Following it does.  Same for the Bible.

You said reading. Nice backtrack. (And yes, I've read Mein Kampf)

> > 
> > Ahh, the smell of small-minded biggots abounds. Not that I expect
> > anything more from YOU. (What? I told you long ago I knew who you
> > were)
> 
> Who am I?  THe anti-christ?  Evil incarnate?  Kesandranacles?  

Well, you don't believe in IAAMOAC, that's for sure.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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