Re: first dark galaxy discovered?

2005-02-25 Thread Amanda Marlowe

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=16226
A British-led team of astronomers have discovered an object that
appears to be an invisible galaxy made almost entirely of dark
matter - the first ever detected. A dark galaxy is an area in the
universe containing a large amount of mass that rotates like a galaxy,
but contains no stars. Without any stars to give light, it could only
be found using radio telescopes. It was first seen with the University
of Manchester's Lovell Telescope in Cheshire, and the sighting was
confirmed with the Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico. The unknown
material that is thought to hold these galaxies together is known as
'dark matter', but scientists still know very little about what that
is.
 

I found calling the galaxy a dark matter galaxy a little misleading. 
The implication is that it's made up of an unknown type of matter. This 
galaxy is a galaxy formed from neutral hydrogen that never started 
forming stars. (It may have dark matter in it too, who knows.) It's 
still really cool, though, to think there are all these invisible 
galaxies out there. I want to see the image of the radio data and see 
how they classify it, but I couldn't find one yet.

There's a great picture on the APOD site of an intermeidary between this 
galaxy and normal galaxies: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap980715.html
The bright spot at the center where the star formation occurs is the 
visible galaxy, which is classified as a blue amorphous/blue compact 
dwarf galaxy. The blue in the image is the 21 cm radio data--the 
non-starforming  neutral hydrogen--and sure looks like a regular old 
spiral galaxy I think there have been other dwarf galaxies found 
that have also turned out to be the star-forming centers of otherwise 
dark galaxies. So I'm not too surprised to find out that there is an HI 
galaxy that has no star formation at all. It'll be interesting to see if 
the percentage of them (and of other matter that is dark but not exotic, 
like brown dwarfs) is high enough to eliminate the dark matter problem.

Amanda

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Re: first dark galaxy discovered?

2005-02-25 Thread Amanda Marlowe

Amanda Marlowe wrote:

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=16226
A British-led team of astronomers have discovered an object that
appears to be an invisible galaxy made almost entirely of dark
matter - the first ever detected. A dark galaxy is an area in the
universe containing a large amount of mass that rotates like a galaxy,
but contains no stars. Without any stars to give light, it could only
be found using radio telescopes. It was first seen with the University
of Manchester's Lovell Telescope in Cheshire, and the sighting was
confirmed with the Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico. The unknown
material that is thought to hold these galaxies together is known as
'dark matter', but scientists still know very little about what that
is.
 

I found calling the galaxy a dark matter galaxy a little misleading. 
The implication is that it's made up of an unknown type of matter. 
This galaxy is a galaxy formed from neutral hydrogen that never 
started forming stars. (It may have dark matter in it too, who 
knows.) It's still really cool, though, to think there are all these 
invisible galaxies out there. I want to see the image of the radio 
data and see how they classify it, but I couldn't find one yet.

Gah. That's what I get for writing stuff on too little sleep. Just 
wanted to clarify: it was the particular wording of this article I was 
quibbling over. The implication I got was the writer (not the 
researchers) was saying the entire galaxy was exotic dark matter. As of 
now, I don't see how we could detect such a galaxy at all, even in the 
radio ;) I realize it, like visible galaxies, has its fair share (or 
more) of dark matter (exotic or otherwise). I just thought this article 
used the term in a confusing way.  Anyway...

Amanda
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