A path to really cheap energy

2012-04-23 Thread Keith Henson
You might be amused by this:


I have identified a positive economic feedback loop between beamed
energy propulsion and power satellites.

Given an understanding of the physics of lasers for beamed energy and
hydrogen for reaction mass, there is a very strong feedback loop between
the existence of power satellites and low cost transportation to build
them.

The physics and feedback indicates that future energy costs will be
very low.  This seems to be inevitable if you build power satellites
at all and take the beamed energy route to power lifting the parts.
The energy cost looks to be so low that solar energy from space will
displace fossil fuels by simply underpricing them.  (Half or less.)
Very low cost space transport is a side benefit.

Further, with only a ten percent feedback, that is dedicating ten
percent of new power sats to propulsion, the construction rate triples
every year, offering the possibility of ending the fossil fuel era in
a decade.

The minimum investment to reach the self sustaining scale is not
precisely known, but seems likely to exceed $10 B and to be less than
$100 B.  A lot of money but not considering the profit to be made
solving a really big problem.

I can go deeply into the technical and math details if you want to see them.

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Re: Really cheap energy

2010-09-08 Thread David Hobby

On 9/8/2010 4:32 PM, Wayne Eddy wrote:

Sounds interesting, but I wonder how it would cope with a big storm?

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Keith Henson mailto:hkeithhen...@gmail.com>> wrote:

http://www.slideshare.net/chris8649/stratosolar-overview
http://www.zinzzu.com/stratosolar.html

If this works as advertised, there will be no economic reason to
build SBSP.


Wayne--

I'm more worried about normal high-altitude winds.
While 20 km high is pretty much above the jet streams,
I'm sure there's still a fair amount of wind.  As pictured,
the mirror apparatus would be torn to bits.  But maybe
one could have smaller mirrors, built into some sort of
parafoil kite?

I see bigger problems with losses in the light pipe.
The plan seems to be to have a flexible tube lined
with reflective material to guide the solar radiation
down to steam turbines or whatever on the ground.
Most of the light would have to reflect off the sides
many times, losing at least a few percent of its
intensity at each reflection.  So nothing makes it
to the ground, and the light pipe melts.  There may
be solutions to this too, but they're going to be
tricky.

---David

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Re: Really cheap energy

2010-09-08 Thread Wayne Eddy
Sounds interesting, but I wonder how it would cope with a big storm?

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Keith Henson  wrote:

> http://www.slideshare.net/chris8649/stratosolar-overview
> http://www.zinzzu.com/stratosolar.html
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> If this works as advertised, there will be no economic reason to build
> SBSP.
>
> Keith
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Really cheap energy

2010-09-08 Thread Keith Henson
http://www.slideshare.net/chris8649/stratosolar-overview
http://www.zinzzu.com/stratosolar.html

If this works as advertised, there will be no economic reason to build SBSP.

Keith

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